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Roster Building Thread VI (2022-23): Offseason edition

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duhmetreE said:
Going in with a top9 reliant on young talent has higher risk. It's why I've liked Engvall. His floor is good. He also has untapped potential in the top9 IMO. Especially if you put him with someone like Panarin
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I like Engvall too, I'm just concerned that a move of Goodrow is going to require retention or money coming back. Zadina makes ~$1.8m so it would fit and he would fill a need as a skilled RWer.
 
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Savant said:
Nothing has changed. You are just wrong.

He will get bought out or he will get traded for like a 2029 6th rounder OR we will have to attach something good
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So in two of your likely scenarios I am actually right. "Or we have to attach something good" is actually wrong.
A fourth scenario, also more likely than attaching something good, is we just roll with him.
Hey If I'm wrong we will probably know soon and I'll have NO problem admitting it. I just don't see the team attaching. If they absolutely want to be rid of him and have no willing trade partner, they'll just buy him out and worry about the dead space in three years when it happens and the cap is way higher. In the meantime there's actually a credit of 200K this coming season and 100K the next...
 
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Draft Shmaft.

We're as 'Win-Now' as we've ever been...and Laviolette just arrived. He likes (in NSH) having the D transport the puck and drive the offense.

Thought Experiment:

Would you be surprised if the Front Office was workshopping bringing EK65 over (50% salary retained) in a deal around Goodrow, Laf, and Key..

That would still leave room for trying to get Tarasenko on a team friendly deal like, $3MM x 5 (eventual buyout) and even... why not? Sign Kane on his 35th birthday in November to an incentive based deal and stash him on IR till the playoffs...

It all fits this window. I don't like it, but I see a path.

>>> EDIT : Not possible without moving Chytil and/or Trocheck. Cancel Alert.
 
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McRanger92 said:
Lindgren needs to get paid next year and has finished 3 straight seasons injured. The same people who want to keep and sign him are the ones who will treat him like Girardi was treated when he signed that big extension. Those who don't know their history are doomed to repeat it.
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What do you believe he can realistically command as an RFA that doesn't put up points despite playing with one of the best offensive defensemen in the league? Strict defensive defensemen like Lindgren, despite being great players and having a positive impact on the ice, simply do not make that much money. He is not a cap dump, his next contract will be a good one as well, and when he is 30/31, you trade him for picks.
 
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bhamill said:
I still say we wont have to attach anything, CERTAINLY not a 1st or 2nd like some lunatics have suggested, and would in fact buy him out before we do that. What has changed?
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You are correct. Why in the hell would anybody think the Rangers would attach ANY assets to move Goodrow? They get 2 years of cap credits if they just buy him out.
 
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Drury paid up the chute to get Goodrow thinking that Cup winning feel would rub off the rest of the room. I don't doubt he brings leadership, but that contract... No way can Drury give away any more than eating that contract and living with the indigestion.
 
I wouldn't hate Quick if he's willing to come dirt cheap to play for his childhood team and maybe pal around with his idol occasionally. Hasn't been great but this team is going to live and die by Igor anyway so whatever.

As far as childhood Rangers fans go, giving a cheap offer to JvR or Patches makes more sense.
 
I mean at almost $4M savings with a Goodrow buyout you could practically field an entire 4th line. Would love Hathaway ($2M), Smith ($1M) and Nosek ($1M). Vesey in the mix in the bottom 6.

That or swing for someone that might be in the $3M range and one 4th liner.
 
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Savant said:
So going to be harder to move guys like Goodrow out. Where are all the posters that said we wouldn’t have to attach anything?

There’s no evidence that there is more upside to be had, because the physical tools have not translated.

I’ve talked about the D thing before but I don’t think this is a Chicken/Egg thing. Neither the underlying numbers nor the eye test suggests the D is going to be able to stop treating the puck like a grenade. The personnel isnt there
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There was no evidence of a guy like Marshasault turning into the player he is either but given opportunity it unlocked him. I watched a lot of Lafreniere in junior as i was doing scouting in this area, i refuse to believe he went from the best player in junior to someone you give up on. He needs confidence, when he plays with swagger he's a different player and Gallant sucked that out of him.
Underlying numbers in a poor system aren't an accurate portrayal of the players abilities.

NYR Viper said:
I like Engvall too, I'm just concerned that a move of Goodrow is going to require retention or money coming back. Zadina makes ~$1.8m so it would fit and he would fill a need as a skilled RWer.
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Engval is when you get Chytil on wish.
 
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Would anyone trade 23 & Goodrow to SJS for 26 & 94? I would love to do 23 for 26 & 36 but I think moving Goodrow would be the better move, he'd prob waive for SJS and maybe they have interest in him being a leader for their team? Maybe wishful thinking and 23 & G for 26 is prob more likely the deal.
 
surlysailor said:
Would anyone trade 23 & Goodrow to SJS for 26 & 94? I would love to do 23 for 26 & 36 but I think moving Goodrow would be the better move, he'd prob waive for SJS and maybe they have interest in him being a leader for their team? Maybe wishful thinking and 23 & G for 26 is prob more likely the deal.
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I'm pretty sure 23 for 26 & 94 is a slightly less than fair deal for NYR without Goodrow thrown in.. This seems like a straight up giveaway of Goodrow and is not really necessary. To move up 3 spots in the first should cost a second. Though 94 PRACTICALLY is. It's not awful, and if you just want to be rid of Goodrow its perfectly fine IMO.
As for 23 and Goodrow for 26? Never happening. Again, we are NOT going to add to Goodrow to get rid of him. At worst we buy him out.
 
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