Roster Building Thread VI (2022-23): Offseason edition

[zlev]

I would not want a 30 year 4th liner that has only played 101 games. I rather give a chance for Edstrom who played pro hockey in Europe a shot to make a team or some tryouts. Brodzinski is not a NHL regular at 30 years old for a reason. He is not that good. Rather give the younger player with a future a chance to make it. I wish the Rangers can draft the next Dom Moore or trade for a young Brian Boyle. I miss those types here. Not some AHL allstar NHL stiff.

no the reason is we're too stupid to give him a real chance. he's better than spending money on someone when it could be spent better elsewhere. he should've been a 4th line regular last year but we just had to go out and trade for Tyler Motte who is worse all around and it also displaced Goodrow to center where he sucks even more than he does at wing.

 

[surlysailor]

Is there a good reason why we shouldn’t just run back the same team with Cuylle, Jones & Othmann? All the bottom 6ers mentioned can be acquired for very little at the deadline.

To me, I'd rather have those players here in case Othmann, &/or Cuylle aren't ready and then not spending assets to use them. I'd rather waive said players if Othmann & Cuylle prove they're ready.

 

[McRanger92]

Because of our overabundance of Nhl caliber left D . . Checks notes. ...nope thats not it. I dunno


We should and hopefully will, id throw Robertson and Berard into the fold too. Its time this organization handed the reins to the kids.

Robertson, Berard and Sykora can all potentially help the NHL roster at some point this year

 

[McRanger92]

To me, I'd rather have those players here in case Othmann, &/or Cuylle aren't ready and then not spending assets to use them. I'd rather waive said players if Othmann & Cuylle prove they're ready.

I get it but these guys really just don’t move the needle unless they buyout Goodrow, which I honestly don’t really see a point to unless they have no choice. Seems like another guy who will thrive under Laviolette

 

[Crease]

Buyout window closes on June 30th right? Will the Rangers trade or buyout Goodrow before then?

 

[LaffyTaffy13]

Is there a good reason why we shouldn’t just run back the same team with Cuylle, Jones & Othmann? All the bottom 6ers mentioned can be acquired for very little at the deadline.

This. We can rock with a lineup like the below until the TDL and then acquire a top 6 type of RW and roll with it

Opening night

Kreider-Zib-Kakko
Panarin-Chytil-Laff
Goodrow-Trocheck-Vesey
Cuylle-Acciari-Motte

Lindy-Fox
Kandre-Trouba
Jones-Schneider

And yes, thats a fine lineup to have for the first 50 games of the year. Then at the TDL look to acquire a Zucc type for a 2nd like Dallas did this year with domi. And depending where the Pens/Caps are maybe they look to move guentzel/Wilson at the tdl, not like they wouldnt be able to resign them ufa and make it known before shipping them off for a 1st

 

[bleedblue94]

it's gonna take a lot to dump Goodrow

No it won't. If they chose to move on from him they just buy him out. They aren't paying big to move him. His buyout is very reasonable if not good for the team. Drury wants him and unless lavy wants him gone then I suspect they will try to keep him.

Robertson, Berard and Sykora can all potentially help the NHL roster at some point this year

Leave these kids alone and let them develop right. Let them force your hand instead of hoping they might be ready to contribute.

 

[bleedblue94]

I would not want a 30 year 4th liner that has only played 101 games. I rather give a chance for Edstrom who played pro hockey in Europe a shot to make a team or some tryouts. Brodzinski is not a NHL regular at 30 years old for a reason. He is not that good. Rather give the younger player with a future a chance to make it. I wish the Rangers can draft the next Dom Moore or trade for a young Brian Boyle. I miss those types here. Not some AHL allstar NHL stiff.

Engvall is someone that this fanbase would run out by Christmas. Should be so much better than he is.

 

[RangersFan1994]

no the reason is we're too stupid to give him a real chance. he's better than spending money on someone when it could be spent better elsewhere. he should've been a 4th line regular last year but we just had to go out and trade for Tyler Motte who is worse all around and it also displaced Goodrow to center where he sucks even more than he does at wing.

He was not good with the Sharks and Kings. Yea lets hope he turns Intro our version of JAM. At 30 years old he is an AHL player at best. Not an NHL regular. Maybe a 14 or 15th forward if injuries happen but should not be a regular.

 

[bleedblue94]

Really interesting to me seeing more and more roster projections slotting trocheck as a 3c

 

[mike14]

Buyout window closes on June 30th right? Will the Rangers trade or buyout Goodrow before then?

I can't see them buying him out, but I imagine they are seriously listening to offers, although I doubt he gets moved before the TDL.
Even with a $3.6m cap Goodrow, for good or for ill, is an NHL GMs wet dream. He's an 'all situation' player, has cup experience, stands up for teammates; and has just had his two best seasons scoring wise.
There will be market, especially as the acquiring team can pretty safely assume they can move him again before his contract expires if they need to and recoup most of their assets.

 

[RangersFan1994]

I can't see them buying him out, but I imagine they are seriously listening to offers, although I doubt he gets moved before the TDL.
Even with a $3.6m cap Goodrow, for good or for ill, is an NHL GMs wet dream. He's an 'all situation' player, has cup experience, stands up for teammates; and has just had his two best seasons scoring wise.
There will be market, especially as the acquiring team can pretty safely assume they can move him again before his contract expires if they need to and recoup most of their assets.

Rangers better get a replacement for what he does at a cheaper rate. Does Hathaway want to sign here? If the Rangers had more guys that do the dirty work, this would not be an issue. Maybe Laviolette can get the top 6 to play with grit, does Kreider go back to his aggressive days?

 

[IDvsEGO]

Really interesting to me seeing more and more roster projections slotting trocheck as a 3c

Because Chytil showed he can be a 2c, and trocheck as a 3c with Ck makes a lot of sense.

 

[MrAlmost]

No need to buy out Goodrow. If there is no market we can just keep him. I like the idea of this roster cause I would like to wait the Arizona situation out to see if something shakes free, specifically Keller. And if not Keller, then maybe a team that wants him wants to move someone else to make the money work. This free agent class ain't that great.

 

[bleedblue94]

Because Chytil showed he can be a 2c, and trocheck as a 3c with Ck makes a lot of sense.

Trocheck has always been best slotted as a 3c, and we can still debate if chytil showed he is a 2c or not. We have two tweeners. Hop chytil can make the step though.

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

Trocheck has always been best slotted as a 3c, and we can still debate if chytil showed he is a 2c or not. We have two tweeners. Hop chytil can make the step though.

He’s gotten better every year so far that’s a plus at least. He’s terrible on face offs but I think he’s got a shot to score 30 goals this year if he keeps progressing.

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

Goodrow can be replaced with TWO players who play the same way and can fill two spots (bottom 6 wing/center) for the same price. It makes all the sense to get rid of him for that reason

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Buyout window closes on June 30th right? Will the Rangers trade or buyout Goodrow before then?

Neither imo

 

[LaffyTaffy13]

Really interesting to me seeing more and more roster projections slotting trocheck as a 3c

Well, if we want to have a checking line, hes an elite 3C checking line center for a team with cup aspirations.

A line of Goodrow-Trocheck-Motte would be a tremendous checking line

No need to buy out Goodrow. If there is no market we can just keep him. I like the idea of this roster cause I would like to wait the Arizona situation out to see if something shakes free, specifically Keller. And if not Keller, then maybe a team that wants him wants to move someone else to make the money work. This free agent class ain't that great.

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Too little cap space. Were gonna want roughly $1,000,000 in cap space in order to accrue roughly $4.5ish by the TDL. That can be accomplished by rocking with 21 guys instead of 22. And then if a forward gets hurt you call up waiver exempt players a ship them back to hfd on off days until said forward comes back

 

[LaffyTaffy13]

Trocheck has always been best slotted as a 3c, and we can still debate if chytil showed he is a 2c or not. We have two tweeners. Hop chytil can make the step though.

Both are easily 2C’s. Theres not 60 better centers than them. The issue is in HF world, 1st line centers are only superstars, guys called 2nd line centers are actually 1st line centers so on and so forth.

 

[LaffyTaffy13]

Goodrow can be replaced with TWO players who play the same way and can fill two spots (bottom 6 wing/center) for the same price. It makes all the sense to get rid of him for that reason

You can afford both acciari and fast for roughly goodrows cap hit according to AFP.

AFP whos deadly accurate has Acciari at 2 X $1.5 and Fast at 2 X $2.3. Then your lineup going into the season is

Kreider-mika-kakko
Panarin-Chytil-laff
Motte-Trocheck-Fast (one of the biggest pain in the ass lineup in hockey)
Cuylle-Acciari-Vesey

Lindy-Fox
Kandre-Trouba
Jones-Schneider
Harpur

Igor
Halak

It’s cap compliant with about $500K in cap space.

 

[DanielBrassard]

No need to buy out Goodrow. If there is no market we can just keep him. I like the idea of this roster cause I would like to wait the Arizona situation out to see if something shakes free, specifically Keller. And if not Keller, then maybe a team that wants him wants to move someone else to make the money work. This free agent class ain't that great.

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Going into the season with 209K in cap space seems like a bad idea, which is why Goodrow has to go. He's very much replaceable and it would give them much more breathing room heading into the season.

 

[RangersFan1994]

You can afford both acciari and fast for roughly goodrows cap hit according to AFP.

AFP whos deadly accurate has Acciari at 2 X $1.5 and Fast at 2 X $2.3. Then your lineup going into the season is

Kreider-mika-kakko
Panarin-Chytil-laff
Motte-Trocheck-Fast (one of the biggest pain in the ass lineup in hockey)
Cuylle-Acciari-Vesey

Lindy-Fox
Kandre-Trouba
Jones-Schneider
Harpur

Igor
Halak

It’s cap compliant with about $500K in cap space.

Omg enough of Tyler Motte and on the 3rf line what is the obsession with him? He is not that good.

 

[bbny]

Omg enough of Tyler Motte and on the 3rf line what is the obsession with him? He is not that good.

This, and they aren’t paying Vincent Trocheck 6 million bucks to play him with Tyler Motte.

 

[Vitto79]

Goodrow can be replaced with TWO players who play the same way and can fill two spots (bottom 6 wing/center) for the same price. It makes all the sense to get rid of him for that reason

4 yrs left so that’s an 8 yr cap hit?
I mean Goodrow is overpaid but he’s not a useless pile