Roster Building Thread VI (2022-23): Offseason edition

[Lindberg Cheese]

Can we use facial recognition software to ban Panarin from MSG?

New template:

Krieder Zib Kakko
Laf Chytil (Panarin trade??)
?? Trocheck ??
Cuylle Goodrow Vesey

Lind Fox
KAM Trouba
?? Schneider
Harpur

Igor / ??

 

[Mandar]

Voting against adding the player that makes me think of redneck comedy every time his name is mentioned.

“Here’s your sign…..”

 

[Boom Quack]

If Panarin stays here’s my goal for the forwards

Lafreniere-Zibanejad-Kaako
Panarin-Trochek-Rodriguez
Kreider-Chytil-Brown
Motte-Blueger-Vesey

I could be convinced to re-sign Tarasenko depending on his ask.

Miller-Fox
Jones-Trouba
Gostisbehere-Schneider

I’m seriously looking at trading Lindgren

Why trade him?

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Next coach has to make Panarin play right wing, he doesnt shoot enough to even get any benefit from having his stick in the middle, he always puts the brakes on going down the wall atleast his stick would be in a better position to protect it and a lot of plays die in our end with him on the left side.

 

[Michal]

I know it is unrealistic but my dream trade is: Panarin + 2023 1st to Colorado, Rantanen to NYR.

 

[NYR Viper]

Why trade him?

I think he’s going to be overpaid shortly and he has good value. It allows for the team to redesign their back end as well

 

[haohmaru]

I think he’s going to be overpaid shortly and he has good value. It allows for the team to redesign their back end as well

Have to consider how this is going to impact Fox, as well, and that’ll be considerable. I’d look at other avenues of freeing up cap space.

 

[Vitto79]

Why trade him?

Brown is a good target just not sure his cost since he was hurt

 

[LaffyTaffy13]

I think he’s going to be overpaid shortly and he has good value. It allows for the team to redesign their back end as well

Trades wise this offseason here are the moves i wouldnt be mad about

1) trade laff and goodrow to Montreal for the 5th overall pick

2) trade lindgren for a 1st or lindgren for a middle 6 RW. He will return that if moved imo. Then just resign mikkola at a lower price tag to do the same thing

3) sign motte and jesper fast

4) have cuylle, othmann on the opening night roster

5) sign a 4th liner like hathaway or bjugstad as long as the price is reasonable (<$1.5 AAV)

Kreider-mika-kakko
Panarin-chytil-fast
Othmann-trocheck-vesey
Cuylle-bjugstad-motte

Kandre-fox
Jones-trouba
Mikkola-schneider

 

[LaffyTaffy13]

I hate the idea of Panarin with Chytil. Offensively, I can see it make sense. But Chytil is prone to some turnovers in the neutral zone and at the offensive blue line and so is Panarin. It spells disaster.

I’d put Kreider with Chytil and Panarin with Trocheck. I agree first like should be Laf, Zib, Kakko. Sink or swim. Give them 30-50 games. It won’t be though. They’ll be scattered around the lineup and play PP2

A line of panarin-chytil-jesper fast would actually work well imo

 

[mas0764]

I feel like people just make shit up with K'Andre.

Show me proof of this massive regression or STFU. Really just STFU because you won't be able to.

I don’t know that he regressed but I don’t think he progressed the way we had hoped either.

 

[tomobson]

There really isn't any room on this team at the top six for Laf. Top line should be Kreider/Mika/Kakko. 2nd line should be Panarin/Trocheck/Chytil. Chytil is better than a third liner and deserves a top six role way more than Laf at this point. He also makes the most sense to give that second line a shot of speed and give Panarin a shooter to pass to. Trade Goodrow and find a 3c or just play Goodrow at 3c until they trade for one at the deadline. You can maybe do Panarin/Chytil/Laf but Panarin would 100% throw a temper tantrum plus I think that line would be too slow unless Laf gets cyborg legs this offseason.

 

[SA16]

I know it is unrealistic but my dream trade is: Panarin + 2023 1st to Colorado, Rantanen to NYR.

Think they’d add MacKinnon if we put in Zibanejad and a 2nd?

 

[I Eat Crow]

Think they’d add MacKinnon if we put in Zibanejad and a 2nd?

Not enough. Need Byram coming back too to make it even on their side.

 

[bl02]

Trades wise this offseason here are the moves i wouldnt be mad about

1) trade laff and goodrow to Montreal for the 5th overall pick

2) trade lindgren for a 1st or lindgren for a middle 6 RW. He will return that if moved imo. Then just resign mikkola at a lower price tag to do the same thing

3) sign motte and jesper fast

4) have cuylle, othmann on the opening night roster

5) sign a 4th liner like hathaway or bjugstad as long as the price is reasonable (<$1.5 AAV)

Kreider-mika-kakko
Panarin-chytil-fast
Othmann-trocheck-vesey
Cuylle-bjugstad-motte

Kandre-fox
Jones-trouba
Mikkola-schneider

Sounds like the complete opposite of Montreal fans who want Lafreniere for a 6th rounder. The truth probably is in the middle. Maybe you can get Lafreniere with the Florida pick if Florida gets to the ECF. I don't even think Laf gets you a mid first round pick if Florida loses to Toronto (around 17th overall I believe). I would rather not sell low on Lafreniere with where his value is right now.

Not sure if Mikkola does the same thing as Lindgren but I understand how people want to get value for Lindgren if we aren't gonna sign him long term. I still think he has more value than most Rangers fans think. If we trade Lindgren we need to get GREAT value.

If we get half of the guy Fast is right now and the way he is playing in these playoffs sign me up. Don't think we can afford both Motte and Fast. Fast has looked great and still plays that in your face hard hockey.

Cuylle yes Othmann I would hope gets another year of development somewhere. Would rather not rush him like we've done with so many others. To have him come here and play no pp time and 8 minutes a game on the 4th line. Unless like you said Lafreniere gets traded then it opens up something for him in top 9 but again I would rather not rush him.

Sure if Hathaway takes 1.5 or less great. Doubt it.

 

[bbny]

IF Bread stays then he needs a C he can play with, that is a C with hands, mobility and IQ (ie not Chytil).

The "get rid of Strome and bring in Trochek to force Bread to change his style" punt failed spectacularly 9/10 (he did try to be fair). This means IF (likely because of the reasons we all know) Bread stays a new line needs to be built around him, one that works on his terms. That means Chytil will have to be traded for a player with a different look (I doubt they are moving on from Tro after one season).

Using NYR logic Laffy and Chytil are on the block. Drury has painted himself into a corner with a string of poor decisions. Now it's time to face the music.

Agreed, and that’s why Bread has to go. How are the Rangers supposed to get everyone on the same page, playing the game the right way as a team unit, if they have to let Panarin dictate how an entire line plays the game in order for him to be successful? It’s clear he can’t adapt and it’s the same thing every year with him. It’s not coaching. It’s Panarin, and that stinks because I love Panarin’s persona, talent, his childhood story of adversity, and you can tell he just truly loves the game of hockey, but he only loves it his way and it’s not enough.

 

[mas0764]

In our efforts to be “realistic” with trades we sometimes swing too far the other way. Lafreniere wouldn’t bring back the 17th overall pick? Come on now.

Dach, the third overall pick, after a 26-points-in-70-games campaign in his 21 year old D+3 season, brought back the 13th overall.

Yes Lafreniere can bring back a top 10 pick. I’m just not sure I’d do that.

 

[CLW]

Agreed, and that’s why Bread has to go. How are the Rangers supposed to get everyone on the same page, playing the game the right way as a team unit, if they have to let Panarin dictate how an entire line plays the game in order for him to be successful? It’s clear he can’t adapt and it’s the same thing every year with him. It’s not coaching. It’s Panarin, and that stinks because I love Panarin’s persona, talent, his childhood story of adversity, and you can tell he just truly loves the game of hockey, but he only loves it his way and it’s not enough.

Moving Bread is probably going to look a bit ugly.

Panarin and Schneider (or even Lindy depending on return) to the CBJ for Laine, Ceulemans + 23 1st (LA) something something. Not that we need Laine in particular, the point is that we will take what we can if we are going to be able to move Bread. Then maybe flip Laine + for something else. Drury can do a lot this summer if he gets Bread to accept a trade.

JD will bite on that hook (Bread to play with Johnny Hockey! Big D! Playoffs!) it's just a matter of making things clear to Panarin (he's smart, he knows already).

 

[Raspewtin]

Have to consider how this is going to impact Fox, as well, and that’ll be considerable. I’d look at other avenues of freeing up cap space.

it won’t. put KAM with him and he’s even better

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Have to consider how this is going to impact Fox, as well, and that’ll be considerable. I’d look at other avenues of freeing up cap space.

Any schlub can play with Fox and he’d still be a Norris candidate

 

[Circus86]

 

[Circus86]

Chatgpt is great

 

[Rangers in 7]

Trades wise this offseason here are the moves i wouldnt be mad about

1) trade laff and goodrow to Montreal for the 5th overall pick

2) trade lindgren for a 1st or lindgren for a middle 6 RW. He will return that if moved imo. Then just resign mikkola at a lower price tag to do the same thing

3) sign motte and jesper fast

4) have cuylle, othmann on the opening night roster

5) sign a 4th liner like hathaway or bjugstad as long as the price is reasonable (<$1.5 AAV)

Kreider-mika-kakko
Panarin-chytil-fast
Othmann-trocheck-vesey
Cuylle-bjugstad-motte

Kandre-fox
Jones-trouba
Mikkola-schneider

That lineup is significantly worse…..no thank you

 

[LaffyTaffy13]

Sounds like the complete opposite of Montreal fans who want Lafreniere for a 6th rounder. The truth probably is in the middle. Maybe you can get Lafreniere with the Florida pick if Florida gets to the ECF. I don't even think Laf gets you a mid first round pick if Florida loses to Toronto (around 17th overall I believe). I would rather not sell low on Lafreniere with where his value is right now.

Not sure if Mikkola does the same thing as Lindgren but I understand how people want to get value for Lindgren if we aren't gonna sign him long term. I still think he has more value than most Rangers fans think. If we trade Lindgren we need to get GREAT value.

If we get half of the guy Fast is right now and the way he is playing in these playoffs sign me up. Don't think we can afford both Motte and Fast. Fast has looked great and still plays that in your face hard hockey.

Cuylle yes Othmann I would hope gets another year of development somewhere. Would rather not rush him like we've done with so many others. To have him come here and play no pp time and 8 minutes a game on the 4th line. Unless like you said Lafreniere gets traded then it opens up something for him in top 9 but again I would rather not rush him.

Sure if Hathaway takes 1.5 or less great. Doubt it.

The hf trade value world is detached from reality. This is also a place where 1st round picks are more valuable than cups.

But you think nils lundkvist fetches a 1st rounder but they think laff wouldnt fetch one

 

[bl02]

The hf trade value world is detached from reality. This is also a place where 1st round picks are more valuable than cups.

But you think nils lundkvist fetches a 1st rounder but they think laff wouldnt fetch one

I hear you. No offense tho. You think Laf fetches a 5th overall pick in this draft? That is a bit out of touch as well.