Roster Building Thread VI (2022-23): Offseason edition

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Moving Bread is probably going to look a bit ugly.

Panarin and Schneider (or even Lindy depending on return) to the CBJ for Laine, Ceulemans + 23 1st (LA) something something. Not that we need Laine in particular, the point is that we will take what we can if we are going to be able to move Bread. Then maybe flip Laine + for something else. Drury can do a lot this summer if he gets Bread to accept a trade.

JD will bite on that hook (Bread to play with Johnny Hockey! Big D! Playoffs!) it's just a matter of making things clear to Panarin (he's smart, he knows already).

Rather keep Schneider and trade Miller who would bring back more in a trade.
 

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You know what scares me, the Rangers get speed into the lineup for next season but a bunch of speed on the 4th liners like Julian Gauthier that does not do much else with that speed. We need speed in the top 6
 

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I hear you. No offense tho. You think Laf fetches a 5th overall pick in this draft? That is a bit out of touch as well.
I do. Hes a 21 year old former #1 overall pick with 4 more years of team control and by all accounts actually likes montreal.

Hes also been pretty productive at 5 on 5. One of the best in the nhl age 21 or younger
 
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I do. Hes a 21 year old former #1 overall pick with 4 more years of team control and by all accounts actually likes montreal.

Hes also been pretty productive at 5 on 5. One of the best in the nhl age 21 or younger
Ok hope the Montreal front office feels the same as you but I highly doubt it. I wouldn't trade Laf for the 29-32nd overall for Laf but 5th overall? I would drive him myself to Montreal.
 

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Michkov is the only guy in this draft i'd be willing to give up Laf for (that we could reasonably pick)
 

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Ok hope the Montreal front office feels the same as you but I highly doubt it. I wouldn't trade Laf for the 29-32nd overall for Laf but 5th overall? I would drive him myself to Montreal.
And thats why youre on hfboards haha. Again, this website views 1st round picks more valuable than cups
 

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I hear you. No offense tho. You think Laf fetches a 5th overall pick in this draft? That is a bit out of touch as well.

I’m not sure it would be much worse than that.
 

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I could see a team 6-10 giving up that pick for Lafreniere.

Again, I’m not sure I would make that trade.
I don't think so but it's definitely debatable depending on how is on the board 6-10.
I'm not saying I would make the trade for let's say the 9th or 10th overall but if we can't get rid of Panarin this kid is never gonna get pp time or top 6 minutes. He can't play RW.
 
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yeah well Lindgren didn’t either so idk why we’re doing this

Lindgren > Miller in the Devils series and it wasn't even close.

I could see a team 6-10 giving up that pick for Lafreniere.

Again, I’m not sure I would make that trade.

I wouldn't. I haven't seen a whole lot to make me optimistic but I'm not trading a cost controlled 21 year old 1OA for another dart at the dart board. Hopefully the new coach is what he needs.
 

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All those years of top 10 first round picks... And not a single star player to show for it.

I'm not talking generational. I'm not talking super star. I'm not even talking all star.

We don't have a single top 10 drafted player that is worth more than when they were drafted.

Going 0 for 4 on top draft picks is just unacceptable.
 

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Lindgren > Miller in the Devils series and it wasn't even close.



I wouldn't. I haven't seen a whole lot to make me optimistic but I'm not trading a cost controlled 21 year old 1OA for another dart at the dart board. Hopefully the new coach is what he needs.

I don’t characterize the 8th overall pick in this draft as a dart at the dart board, but Lafreniere still has 80 point potential and I’m not giving up on that yet because yes he’s 21.

I would have given up Buch or DeAngelo or someone of that level of quality for a top 10 pick though.

All those years of top 10 first round picks... And not a single star player to show for it.

I'm not talking generational. I'm not talking super star. I'm not even talking all star.

We don't have a single top 10 drafted player that is worth more than when they were drafted.

Going 0 for 4 on top draft picks is just unacceptable.

It’s the organization’s development efforts.
 
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All those years of top 10 first round picks... And not a single star player to show for it.

I'm not talking generational. I'm not talking super star. I'm not even talking all star.

We don't have a single top 10 drafted player that is worth more than when they were drafted.

Going 0 for 4 on top draft picks is just unacceptable.


That is how the Rangers are built. I don’t expect that to change until Sather Dolan are gone. I miss the days of hitting on Dubinsky and Callahan type of picks. Rangers dont even hit on those now. Hope Cuylle hits but he is a better prospect than just a 4th liner. He gets minutes in Hartford. Don’t see why he cant be a top 9 forward here. Not a Tanner Glass type. He actually has skill. He has played center and took faceoffs on the PK in juniors maybe a Goodrow replacement?
 

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Didn't this guy used to be like 225lbs?
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RangersFan1994

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Didn't this guy used to be like 220lbs?
Veganism is a hell of a drug
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Maybe Gallant was sharing his blow with the team. At least we don’t have to hear Mr.Sniffles anymore. Get some help if you need it. The way he coached this team or lack of explains a lot. Mika did play like a 5’1 player in the playoffs. Soft and emo. Never emotional in his interviews. Need more fiery leaders here.
 

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That is how the Rangers are built. I don’t expect that to change until Sather Dolan are gone. I miss the days of hitting on Dubinsky and Callahan type of picks. Rangers dont even hit on those now. Hope Cuylle hits but he is a better prospect than just a 4th liner. He gets minutes in Hartford. Don’t see why he cant be a top 9 forward here. Not a Tanner Glass type. He actually has skill. He has played center and took faceoffs on the PK in juniors maybe a Goodrow replacement?
The problem is that the organization want everyone to grow into a 3rd line grinder type it's why guys like Dubinsky and Callahan had success here because that's how they played anyway. There's no margin for error, they must play risk adverse mistake free hockey, it stiffles players creativity and forces them to make the safe play or move it to someone else. It's concerning not only for Laf and Kakko but for Sykora, Othmann, Jones etc etc. Hopefully the next coach can help pull the kids along, there's no way they aren't quality picks, it happens too often here and their careers before they got here were excellent so along with all the others its got to be an organizational deficiency, hopefully Drury has recognized that.
 

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The problem is that the organization want everyone to grow into a 3rd line grinder type it's why guys like Dubinsky and Callahan had success here because that's how they played anyway. There's no margin for error, they must play risk adverse mistake free hockey, it stiffles players creativity and forces them to make the safe play or move it to someone else. It's concerning not only for Laf and Kakko but for Sykora, Othmann, Jones etc etc. Hopefully the next coach can help pull the kids along, there's no way they aren't quality picks, it happens too often here and their careers before they got here were excellent so along with all the others its got to be an organizational deficiency, hopefully Drury has recognized that.


How does Drury and company not see this. Because these young players are not a veteran with a name that can sell jerseys 🤔🤬
 
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