Roster Building Thread VI (2022-23): Offseason edition

[LaffyTaffy13]

So are you. I am the one who is trying to be realistic. There is no way Montreal would trade their #5 overall for Lafreniere. 0.000000 percent chance.

I disagree and not sure the rangers would accept it anyway. It is effectively zack benson or a will smith for laff

 

[DanielBrassard]

I disagree and not sure the rangers would accept it anyway. It is effectively zack benson or a will smith for laff

There's zero chance Montreal offers the 5th overall for Lafreniere. Zero.

 

[LaffyTaffy13]

There's zero chance Montreal offers the 5th overall for Lafreniere. Zero.

We’ll never know as the rangers likely wont even do that

 

[LaffyTaffy13]

I don’t characterize the 8th overall pick in this draft as a dart at the dart board, but Lafreniere still has 80 point potential and I’m not giving up on that yet because yes he’s 21.

I would have given up Buch or DeAngelo or someone of that level of quality for a top 10 pick though.



It’s the organization’s development efforts.

Which is why I think knoblauch has a real chance of being hired. Drury hand selected him in hartford, hes done more with less there and clearly can develop young talent to a degree

 

[McRanger92]

The Rangers aren’t trading Lafreniere, and even if they do it’s not going to be for another draft pick. Let’s get real.

 

[bleedblue94]

it won’t. put KAM with him and he’s even better

I'm just curious, what is your second pairing then?

 

[Go Rangers]

I think the team needs to take a step back and really think about rounding out the roster with players they could mold, not big names (not that they could afford "names"). I've been shitting on the kids a lot but they have to seriously put all 3 in the top 6 permanently, let them grow even if we have doubts about their ceiling (Laf). Definitely explore trading Bread and Trouba above all. Also got to explore trades for pretty much everyone. All those NMC NTC really hamper a lot but not impossible to get out them. Igor, Fox, and the Busts, build around them. Window, schmindow, we're not winning with the current core. Regular season doesn't mean anything, we know this. Build a team you could truly mold with structure. Too many slow deliberate puck movers like Bread, Fox, Kane just does not work. You only need 1, Fox. Fast puck movement, North South play and aggresive forecheck, with key goaltending wins if you've been watching the playoffs. The letter 2.0, tear it down again, well partially.

Not unless dolan sells the team.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Rangers get Arber Xhekaj, Owen Beck, Jared Davidson, 1st round pick
Habs get KAM

Rangers can sell high on Miller. He does not seem like a long term piece here.

 

[McRanger92]

Rangers get Arber Xhekaj, Owen Beck, Jared Davidson, 1st round pick
Habs get KAM

Rangers can sell high on Miller. He does not seem like a long term piece here.

“Sell High”

 

[jerseyjinx94]

Rangers get Arber Xhekaj, Owen Beck, Jared Davidson, 1st round pick
Habs get KAM

Rangers can sell high on Miller. He does not seem like a long term piece here.

Miller should be untouchable barring the availability of a few players, none of which are on your list here

 

[Fitzy]

Rangers can sell high on Miller. He does not seem like a long term piece here.

So you see this is a communication issue. "Sell High" doesn't mean trade a centerpiece of the franchise whilst stoned.

 

[Paulie Walnutz]

It’ll never happen because nobody wants to play in Toronto, but the Rangers and Leafs make great shakeup the core trade partners.

 

[lakeshirts37]

Have to consider how this is going to impact Fox, as well, and that’ll be considerable. I’d look at other avenues of freeing up cap space.

I understand the thinking, but cmon I cant stand this idea that an elite Norris winner cant find chemistry with anyone else

 

[Brutananadilewski]

If Toronto get swept, you have to believe heads will roll.

Hopefully, Panarin would be willing to go there.

 

[RangersFan1994]

“Sell High”

If Toronto get swept, you have to believe heads will roll.

Hopefully, Panarin would be willing to go there.

I would not take their chokers. I’d take Knies but doubt he is available.

 

[bl02]

I would not take their chokers. I’d take Knies but doubt he is available.

You would have to take one of their bigger salary guys.
That's like asking the Leafs asking for Lafreniere for Tavares.

 

[Brutananadilewski]

I would not take their chokers. I’d take Knies but doubt he is available.

How about Nylander? Doesn't have a lot of points but he looks dominant with the puck.

 

[mike14]

How about Nylander? Doesn't have a lot of points but he looks dominant with the puck.

$7m contract and 1 year away from being a UFA.
We don't have the cap-space, and I don't think we'd want to deal away the assets (and Panarin wouldn't be one) for a guy who could walk in 12 months

 

[jerseyjinx94]

If Toronto get swept, you have to believe heads will roll.

Hopefully, Panarin would be willing to go there.

Nah, they finally got to Round 2, no heads will roll - and their taxes I think are worse than NY’s, so why would Panarin go there?

 

[LionsHeart]

The idea of trading KAM is extremely shortsighted.

I’m not against trading Laf, but the problem is the Rangers are in “Win Now” mode with very little Cap Space this year and the next few years. If you trade Laf you trade him for a piece that can help you win now, but that piece is also going to cost money they just don’t have. At the end of the day you’re better off just bridging him and hoping he breaks out.

 

[RangerBoy]

The idea of trading KAM is extremely shortsighted.

I’m not against trading Laf, but the problem is the Rangers are in “Win Now” mode with very little Cap Space this year and the next few years. If you trade Laf you trade him for a piece that can help you win now, but that piece is also going to cost money they just don’t have. At the end of the day you’re better off just bridging him and hoping he breaks out.

Win now mode doesn't win. All of these bullshit short-term moves don't work. Then they blame the coach. The coach may be a moron but they hired the coach. What does that make mean? Sather hired so many lemons here. Somehow, Sather is still here in same capacity. I thought he was retired. We don't the details of each candidate. These teams know more than the general public.

The Rangers cap situation is not impossible to manage. These guys are morons.

 

[surlysailor]

Which is why I think knoblauch has a real chance of being hired. Drury hand selected him in hartford, hes done more with less there and clearly can develop young talent to a degree

I have to disagree that "he's done more with less" He has not made the playoffs until this year. They would've prob made it in 20-21 but besides that nothing. This year was Drury/Martin coming to the rescue at the TDL. Hartford was on the verge of missing the playoffs again this year and barely squeaked into the playoffs. To me he seems like a retread of Quinn. He doesn't lean on talent, or putting players in the position to succeed, he leans on the veteran players even when a prospect has more talent. Also I don't see the development of players, of all the current NYR players who played for Hartford he taught them for such a short period of time you can't say he did much. Chytil - 9 games, Schneider - 26 games, Lindgren- 9 games, Igor 25 games. His biggest success for development in my opinion has been Morgan Barron with 46 games. No players has spent a significant amount of time with him and has become an NHL success. If Jones gets a fair shake and stays with the NYR then he would be his biggest success at development.

 

[LionsHeart]

Win now mode doesn't win. All of these bullshit short-term moves don't work. Then they blame the coach. The coach may be a moron but they hired the coach. What does that make mean? Sather hired so many lemons here. Somehow, Sather is still here in same capacity. I thought he was retired. We don't the details of each candidate. These teams know more than the general public.

The Rangers cap situation is not impossible to manage. These guys are morons.

It’s a dumb league. I don’t think any other league awards mediocrity and failure the way the NHL does.

And I agree, there’s no quick fix. The best way for the Rangers to take another step and get better is 24, 13, 72, 79, 6 and continuing to build a pipeline of talent via drafting and developing. That’s how the last team that made deep runs did it.

 

[McRanger92]

I have to disagree that "he's done more with less" He has not made the playoffs until this year. They would've prob made it in 20-21 but besides that nothing. This year was Drury/Martin coming to the rescue at the TDL. Hartford was on the verge of missing the playoffs again this year and barely squeaked into the playoffs. To me he seems like a retread of Quinn. He doesn't lean on talent, or putting players in the position to succeed, he leans on the veteran players even when a prospect has more talent. Also I don't see the development of players, of all the current NYR players who played for Hartford he taught them for such a short period of time you can't say he did much. Chytil - 9 games, Schneider - 26 games, Lindgren- 9 games, Igor 25 games. His biggest success for development in my opinion has been Morgan Barron with 46 games. No players has spent a significant amount of time with him and has become an NHL success. If Jones gets a fair shake and stays with the NYR then he would be his biggest success at development.

Considering the Rangers top prospects through the rebuild barely played in Hartford, which you noted, kind of proves the point that Knoblauch has not had much to work with. Plus those 4 guys all went to Hartford, figured things out and have been staples in the NHL since. He's a very good choice for HC given some of the crazy suggestions we've heard.

 

[Machinehead]

We lost in seven games and played like complete dogshit in 3 of them.

We weren't overmatched, we were outcoached. Their coach made adjustments. Our coach "had a bad week" and had no answers. Hence, the unemployment line.

If that's the reasoning you want to give, sure. It still doesn't make sense to judge individuals on a 7 game sample where the whole team sucked.