Roster Building Thread VI (2022-23): Offseason edition

[RangersFan1994]

no
stop adding smurfs

So you wouldn’t take Marchand Zuccarello, Gallagher, JAM or Poiint because they are small.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

I never said he was. Just that he’s not an out of date coach. I think Washington was foolish to hire him and should’ve been rebuilding, but chose to placate ovi, similar to Pittsburg.

That may be, but the Hurter quote is "he's an improving coach". Not sure what makes him think that he's improving.

 

[zlev]

we should swoop in and sign Timo Meier

with what cap space, you might ask? well, many people are paid a lot of money to figure that kind of thing out. they can do it.

 

[GENESISPuck94]

And Nashville was a flawed team to boot.

I mean, Washington was the covid year, a 100 point season, and a season where the Capitals never, not once, had all of their starters healthy in a game all year and were seemingly more about pandering to 8's goal record chase than they were about actually competing for a Cup.

He's not a bad coach.

I mean I'm one of the ones who have mentioned his work with the young players in Philly when he was there. I think the potential is there, the hope is there that he develops these players right, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

 

[Mandar]

So you wouldn’t take Marchand Zuccarello, Gallagher, JAM or Poiint because they are small.

You just want any player that comes on the market. This must be a new flavor for today…let’s see who comes on the market tomorrow, and you will want him too.

 

[IDvsEGO]

I mean I'm one of the ones who have mentioned his work with the young players in Philly when he was there. I think the potential is there, the hope is there that he develops these players right, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

I think there’s potential.
This core went to the conference finals without any real strategy basically on pure talent at 5v5.
Adding any type of system should allow the players to move a little faster, and control play better if they can play within it.

Now is this system a good fit for our roster is tbd. But there’s potential.

 

[bernmeister]

So you wouldn’t take Marchand Zuccarello, Gallagher, JAM or Poiint because they are small.

Not given reasonable expectation I can get just as good for similar $$$ and larger = more dominant in playoffs
as a rule
exceptions to the rule, acknowledged
but that IS the rule

 

[pld459666]

That may be, but the Hurter quote is "he's an improving coach". Not sure what makes him think that he's improving.

Communication with younger players.

Dinosaurs don't evolve, they die.

Hes evolving.

The results were not there in Washington because they sucked. Part of tjat is coaching, most of tnat is an aging roster tjat is quickly fading into obscurity.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Not given reasonable expectation I can get just as good for similar $$$ and larger = more dominant in playoffs
as a rule
exceptions to the rule, acknowledged
but that IS the rule

Mika is 6’3 he was not anywhere dominate but Hughes was. I want quick guys that can skate. Size does not matter much to me, you have to be able to skate and have bite. Having size does not matter much anymore this ain’t the 90s.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Communication with younger players.

Dinosaurs don't evolve, they die.

Hes evolving.

The results were not there in Washington because they sucked. Part of tjat is coaching, most of tnat is an aging roster tjat is quickly fading into obscurity.

That's wishful thinking, my dude, but I hope you're right. Seems like all evidence points to the contrary, but I hope he thrives here.

 

[Savant]

The vitriol for Laviolette is borderline comical. He is the most winning American coach if all time. So many of us wanted a new face with fresh ideas. I’m one of them. But people are acting like Laviolette is some random high school football coach who has never seen a hockey game.

He’s also way past his sell by date, was bad in Washington, and has been past the second round once in the last ten years. He is the most winning because he’s been around forever not because he is a dominant figure. He’s supposedly a win now coach, but he hasn’t done a lot of winning in the last decade

I mean I'm one of the ones who have mentioned his work with the young players in Philly when he was there. I think the potential is there, the hope is there that he develops these players right, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

He was in Philly a LONG time ago. The recent evidence does not back this up

 

[RGY]

You're missing the point, my guy. How is Laviolette an "improving coach" when his best years are wayyyyyy behind him?

How is just 5-6 years ago wayyyy behind him? Stop with this nonsense as if even just getting to the cup finals is some easy task. He has made the cup finals every 5 years roughly. Across multiple dynamic changes in the NHL game. Seems like he knows how to adjust and adapt.

 

[Machinehead]

I don't think we need fresh, innovative ideas. I think we desperately need some basics.

Then maybe you go from there.

 

[mas0764]

we should swoop in and sign Timo Meier

with what cap space, you might ask? well, many people are paid a lot of money to figure that kind of thing out. they can do it.

No, they can’t. Unless Trouba is traded.

Which is fine with me.

 

[Alluckks]

Siegenthaler just signed a 5 year contract at a 3.4 mil AAV. He's 26 years old and has been in the league for 5 years. He had 1 RFA year remaining. Left-handed like Lindgren, but bigger. 48 points in 255 career games.

Lindgren has 63 points in 257 career games, so he scores a bit more, but not by a significant amount.

Both players have 7 career goals. Siegenthaler averaged 20:09 per game last year and Lindgren averaged 18:50 per game, but he was at 20:06 the year before and 20:00 the year before that.

Lindgren is on the final year of his contract. Come July 1st, the Rangers should offer him 4 mil x 5 years. He gets a bit more because the cap is going up and Lindgren will have played considerably more games. Takes him to age 31. Limited NTC in his UFA years (Siegenthaler has 10 team NTC).

That's a 1 mil raise on what he's getting right now, and a guaranteed 20 mil. If and when we have a replacement for him, we can think about trading him.

If he takes that deal it is a fantastic deal for us

 

[pld459666]

Curious

Would anyone entertain Schneider for Kaliyev?

 

[lakeshirts37]

Defi

Curious

Would anyone entertain Schneider for Kaliyev?

Definitely not

 

[zlev]

No, they can’t. Unless Trouba is traded.

Which is fine with me.

exactly

 

[GAGLine]

If he takes that deal it is a fantastic deal for us

Another comparable is Erik Cernak. He signed 8 years at 5.2 mil. More goals, but roughly the same production overall. Bigger player. Lindgren won't get 8 years, so his cap hit won't be as high.

 

[Paulie Walnutz]

Another comparable is Erik Cernak. He signed 8 years at 5.2 mil. More goals, but roughly the same production overall. Bigger player. Lindgren won't get 8 years, so his cap hit won't be as high.

Isn’t that the opposite? Cap hits are usually lower when the deal is longer. If Lindgren takes a shorter deal the cap number would be higher.

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The Rangers need to be bigger faster stronger and tougher to play against. Adding a Make A Wish winger isn’t the answer.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Yamamoto for Goodrow doesn't move the needle in cap space at all for the Oilers.

 

[McRanger92]

Gallant has been to a cup final much more recently than Laviolette . Laviolette is not a borderline hall of famer and has not been a top coach for years

If you think gallant is a better coach than Laviolette I can’t help you. Literally no good reason to think that

 

[Alluckks]

Another comparable is Erik Cernak. He signed 8 years at 5.2 mil. More goals, but roughly the same production overall. Bigger player. Lindgren won't get 8 years, so his cap hit won't be as high.

I was under the impression that 8 years on a contract that goes to that age would bring the cap hit down, not up

 

[UnSandvich]

I don't think we need fresh, innovative ideas. I think we desperately need some basics.

Then maybe you go from there.

With this team, "getting the basics down" **IS** a fresh, innovative idea

 

[Barnaby]

Mika is 6’3 he was not anywhere dominate but Hughes was. I want quick guys that can skate. Size does not matter much to me, you have to be able to skate and have bite. Having size does not matter much anymore this ain’t the 90s.

Vegas and Florida were both heavy teams. Yamamoto doesn’t sniff the jock of one guy you mentioned. There’s a reason Edmonton fans constantly try to pawn him off in proposals. Size isn’t everything, but this team needs more, not less.

If he’s not producing with McDavid or Drai then he’s probably not producing much with Chytil.