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I posted this on the trade board awhile ago and got laughed at. I was honestly a bit surprised by that.
Roster Building Thread VI (2022-23): Offseason edition
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Tom Wilson is Drawing Interest and the Rangers Should be Interested
It''s been reported by the Fourth Period that the Washington Capitals are getting offers for Tom Wilson and the Rangers should be one of those teams.
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Chalfdiggity3
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Tom Wilson is Drawing Interest and the Rangers Should be Interested
It''s been reported by the Fourth Period that the Washington Capitals are getting offers for Tom Wilson and the Rangers should be one of those teams.
Could Tom Wilson follow
not for what it would cost.
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MrAlmost
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I believe the Rangers are interested in Garland. Drury picked him for the national team and he played on it again this year. He is the type of player we would like and we need. A good example for the likes of Cuylle, Othmann, Trivigno, etc.. There is legit smoke there. However, Laf is not involved. It is likely a Goodrow for Garland swap. Van needs cap space and this would give them relief. Its 1 year longer, but they can likely flip Goody pretty quickly after the fact. I think this one might actually happen.
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I’d do Goodrow for Garland but the only concern is the team gets a little less tougher in the top 9. Goodrow was always the first to stick up for a teammate. Cant wait until no one starts to do that and teams will take liberties with Panarin again. Fun times. I do want a cheaper Goodrow type. I’d love Domi but doubt Rangers can afford him. He is the type they need. Can skate agitate and play in top 9 wing RW spot
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Cuylle is a lock for this team next year and he can throw em. He is a tough kid. Also, Othmann is a front runner to make the lineup too and he is a real tough kid too.
Edstrom may get some looks. His fighting is unknown since they don't really do it in Europe, but he is big and tough. Rempe is flat out big and mean. He can and will fight, is real young, and does it well. I hope we keep him in the system for a few more years cause I think he can make a name for himself.
Past that, Garland is a physical player and doesnt shy away. Also, the rest of the team isn't weak. Kreider, Laf, Z, Vesey, Trocheck, Lindgren, Trouba, and Schneider all play physical games.
We have what it takes, we just need to put it all together.
Laf-Z-Kakko
Panarin-Chytil-Garland
Kreider-Tro-Vesey
Cuylle-Brod-Trivigno/Edstrom/Motte?/UFA?
That lineup is much faster and more aggressive. And it's got a real shutdown line. Gotta get back to the way we played when we went to the ECF.
When has Z played a physical game or stuck up for a teammate? I don’t remember him every doing that besides hugging someone in a scrum. Pure wuss
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This is another trade concept I just recently posted that got summarily dismissed.
Garland could be an interesting player but where are we finding the cap money? His cap hit is 5 million and if the cap barely goes up forget about it. Even a Goodrow for Garland swap wouldn't offset things enough to fit him under the cap unless the cap goes up more than we think it will.
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Wilson is a pipe dream probably but I’d love to add Hathaway too. Good forechecker and tough SOB. Friend of Kreider and coached by Lavi the last few. Before he got traded to Boston, Staple said the Rangers were interested. The team needs to play heavier next year
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How do the Rangers afford this though? They already have to dump Goodrow to be able to do anything. Garland means taking on money above what Goodrow makes; it’s the wrong direction, money wise.
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Because it makes no sense. Vancouver is looking to move Garland to clear cap and we're the team that's going to help them with that? We have our own cap issues to deal with.
Goodrow for Garland only saves Vancouver 1.3 mil. Maybe they would do the deal early, buy out Goodrow, and clear cap that way, but it still doesn't solve our cap issue.
That's the minimum that Laf/Miller will get, and we aren't going to go into the season with less than 21 on the roster. Even filling all the other spots with cheap contracts, we are over the cap. And there's no way they are going to fill all those spots so cheaply.
This also relegates Laf to the 3rd line. Isn't it in our best interest to get him more ice time?
How are you solving these problems?
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Z has always played a fast, physical and aggressive brand of 200 foot hockey. He enters the zone quick, is hard on forechecks, battles in the corners, etc.. Being tough to play against isnt just about fighting or getting in pointless shoving matches after the whistle. Florida is trying to be a bully this whole series and Vegas is kicking the shit out of them.
The Cap gets tight for sure but it can work. The fans of this team are as incapable of thinking outside the box as this organization is.
It's the right direction money wise. You spend only 1.3 million more on an actual top 9 player with speed vs 3.65 on a 4th liner. On top of that, its a LW/sometimes center moved for a position of need, RW. You fill out your roster with players already in the Org. Promote from within and find cheaper options than signing other teams 4th liners which always cost more. They can make it work with a 21 player roster. Cuylle, Blidh, Brod, Lesh, Trivigno, Edstrom, Rempe, Berard, etc.. Options are there. I personally wouldn't mind a Cuylle-Brod-Blidh 4th line.
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As easily as you can try to make it not work, I can make it work. And I signed Jones. The reality is no one knows what will happen, especially with this team, but the "it won't work" argument is lazy at best and disingenuous at worst. You even made a really good argument why it might happen that I didn't even think of. Goodrow's buyout is better than Garland's and that might be a selling point for Van. Never know.
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I could see Vancouver retaining a little bit and then trading Garland. I posted it the other day but they also need cap space. Perhaps a team like San Jose who may be interested in Goodrow would swap him for some later picks which could be used to acquire Garland with, say, $750k retained.
He’s the type of player the team should be interested in. High motor. RW. Has some skill to his game.
To the poster who was concerned about the team sticking up for each other, it’s a somewhat valid point. Although I truly think Drury should be able to source some of that pretty cheaply in the UFA bargain bin this offseason. I’ve mentioned it before but I’d the relationship hasn’t soured too much, I’d sign Reaves on a two year deal at something like $800k. He gets a guaranteed $1.6m and the team gets a veteran leader who they can shuttle between Hartford and NY. I’d also tell him that if he were to be waived and cleared, the team would NOT expect him to report to Hartford unless he desired to do so. Just salary cap gymnastics.
Another guy who I know isn’t a very good NHLer but is pretty tough is Austin Watson. He’d be a spare forward here but he probably gets very little as a UFA.
He’s the type of player the team should be interested in. High motor. RW. Has some skill to his game.
To the poster who was concerned about the team sticking up for each other, it’s a somewhat valid point. Although I truly think Drury should be able to source some of that pretty cheaply in the UFA bargain bin this offseason. I’ve mentioned it before but I’d the relationship hasn’t soured too much, I’d sign Reaves on a two year deal at something like $800k. He gets a guaranteed $1.6m and the team gets a veteran leader who they can shuttle between Hartford and NY. I’d also tell him that if he were to be waived and cleared, the team would NOT expect him to report to Hartford unless he desired to do so. Just salary cap gymnastics.
Another guy who I know isn’t a very good NHLer but is pretty tough is Austin Watson. He’d be a spare forward here but he probably gets very little as a UFA.
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Except that doesn't work. Ignoring the fact that you've given Laf less than he will likely get, you've only left the team with 88k in cap space. That's not enough for injury callups.
You have guys like Brodz and Blidh on the 4th line, Jones on the 3rd pair and Domingue as the backup. They are all at best NHL/AHL tweeners. Is that really the depth that is going to help us win a cup? Is adding Garland worth icing such poor depth? I know, we can trade a bunch of draft picks at the deadline again. That will fix it. Oh, but wait, we have no cap space to add players.
We need at least 21 players, at least 500k in unused cap space, and NHL quality depth. You aren't managing that with Garland on the team unless you can find a way to move Panarin. Good luck with that.
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I don’t want to trade Chytil but Cooley is the type of player I would consider it for. Chytil and Jones for Cooley would be a coup for the Rangers value wise, in a trade simulator, whether that would transfer to the ice is anyone’s guess. If the plan is to do that and then play Cooley on the 3rd line with no PP time, then I don’t really see the point in going through the exercise. Chytil will go score 70 points for Arizona with Clayton Keller and turn into the next Roope Hintz and Cooley will play 13 min a night. We’d have to wait 5 years for Cooley to earn the 2C slot.
That would free up money for the Goodrow for Garland move you guys are thinking. Maybe Goodrow/2023 6 for Garland/2023 4 to even out cap hit values. It’s not a terrible idea if they freed up cap elsewhere, but if they don’t I think it’ll be too tight.
With Leschyshyn and Harpur as spares, would leave the Rangers with $6M in cap space, and only to fill backup G, 2 4th liners, and 3LD. As long as it’s filled by not giving out more than $1.5M and no more than 1 year (which it wouldn’t be, because Drury and UFA), I think it’s not a bad plan of action. Would really hate to lose Chytil but Cooley is a special prospect. You’d have to put Cooley with Garland and Panarin and Laf/Kakko with Zibanejad. Then Kreider Trocheck Vesey. You would have to play the kids. Not bury them. Would that actually happen?
That would free up money for the Goodrow for Garland move you guys are thinking. Maybe Goodrow/2023 6 for Garland/2023 4 to even out cap hit values. It’s not a terrible idea if they freed up cap elsewhere, but if they don’t I think it’ll be too tight.
With Leschyshyn and Harpur as spares, would leave the Rangers with $6M in cap space, and only to fill backup G, 2 4th liners, and 3LD. As long as it’s filled by not giving out more than $1.5M and no more than 1 year (which it wouldn’t be, because Drury and UFA), I think it’s not a bad plan of action. Would really hate to lose Chytil but Cooley is a special prospect. You’d have to put Cooley with Garland and Panarin and Laf/Kakko with Zibanejad. Then Kreider Trocheck Vesey. You would have to play the kids. Not bury them. Would that actually happen?
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So if Goodrow canr be moved do the Rangers basically sign dirt cheap options that’s it ?
I like Goodrow just can’t see where else they can save
Garland could be bought out in a few days
Vancouver’s over the cap although once Myers gets his July 1st money he’s cheap to dump at 1 million actual dollars . Saves 6 million on their cap . Still would have to add an asset though
I like Goodrow just can’t see where else they can save
Garland could be bought out in a few days
Vancouver’s over the cap although once Myers gets his July 1st money he’s cheap to dump at 1 million actual dollars . Saves 6 million on their cap . Still would have to add an asset though
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Laf has done nothing more or less to deserve a contract higher in AAV than Kakko or Chytil before him. Why would he get 2.5?
Brod and Blidh (in their limited time) have provided average 4th line production, or lack there of. Haha. If they are not sufficient 4th liners, there is a host of capable players that are staring down the barrel of league minimum or just above. Hinostroza, Watson, Kiviranta, Ritchie, Leivo, Gagner, Maenalanen, Stepan, Brown, Belzile, Tierney, Zohorna, Hunt (Haha), etc..
People complain that we spend too much money on bottom line players that should be league minimums. Well this is a proposal to spend the money on the top of the lineup instead of the bottom. Push guys down/fill out the top of the order with guys that can play the style of game we want, instead of being too soft, or one dimenesional, or east-west up top and then just have 3 guys that play the way the whole team should play on 1 line. What impact would that have? A fast and tough 4th line doesn't impact anything unless the team is like that.
500K in cap? Why? I am watching 2 teams in the Cup right now that at times this season had negative cap space. Why are we still the only team in the league not using LTIR? Emergency callups? Vegas has a f***ing 93 million dollar payroll this season. We are the only ones following the rules! Bunch of boy scouts. Ha
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I'd rather sign Engvall for $3M
Zibs is also notorious for skating away from scrums.
Kakko and Laffy need to develop that mean streak. Cuylle and Othmann would definitely add it
Zibs is also notorious for skating away from scrums.
Kakko and Laffy need to develop that mean streak. Cuylle and Othmann would definitely add it
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