Roster Building Thread VI (2022-23): Offseason edition

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I Eat Crow

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Drury also knows that this is his last chance. If the next hire fails… so does he. Its alot of pressure on him as well and we know he doesn’t make rash decisions.

I wouldnt be surprised if nothing was done till after the season ends. There is no actual rush since its not like this roster will change much anyway.
I disagree wholly.

If you're getting rid of Gallant, rip off the bandaid and get the new coach on board ASAP and have them involved in the drafting process this year.

The Rangers can't f*** this year's 1st up. It'd be the final nail in the coffin for a string of poor drafting starting in 2017 and would segway the organization into another Dark Ages.
 
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As mcranger said, Byram would probably be the ask and he fills a need for the Rangers but Idk how interesting that is for you guys.
I'm not in the trade Laf or Kakko camp at all, but I would trade either for Byram

I don't see Colorado going for that
 

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As mcranger said, Byram would probably be the ask and he fills a need for the Rangers but Idk how interesting that is for you guys.

I'm not in the trade Laf or Kakko camp at all, but I would trade either for Byram

I don't see Colorado going for that

I totally understand the ask, but I would think the Avs would pass as they’d rather use Byram as a chip to get a young 2C if they were going to move him.

How does the Rangers depth shake out on D? Would either Girard or Toews in some for if package deal be feasible?
 

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@Perratrooper I noticed your center depth isn’t great, the other day I proposed something around Zibanejad & Schneider for Byram & Nichushkin. What would you think of that?
can we at least hold off until we find out what happened with Nichushkin and his lady "friend" in a hotel room during a playoff series with Seattle?
I mean I know Mika was bad this series but he's still a valuable two way center and I know so many Ranger fans can't wait to get rid of another 21 year old defenseman.
 

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@Perratrooper I noticed your center depth isn’t great, the other day I proposed something around Zibanejad & Schneider for Byram & Nichushkin. What would you think of that?

I think with Nuke’s current uncertainty it would be a deal that would have to be held off on any moves. In terms of value it might not be crazy far off and something I would imagine the Avs would have to consider.
 
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I totally understand the ask, but I would think the Avs would pass as they’d rather use Byram as a chip to get a young 2C if they were going to move him.

How does the Rangers depth shake out on D? Would either Girard or Toews in some for if package deal be feasible?
Toews would be a great fit for this team
 

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I totally understand the ask, but I would think the Avs would pass as they’d rather use Byram as a chip to get a young 2C if they were going to move him.

How does the Rangers depth shake out on D? Would either Girard or Toews in some for if package deal be feasible?
That makes sense, I know your center depth is kinda weak right now. I would personally love Toews, he'd be awesome but would he even be available? He's an elite defenseman in his own right. What would the price be do you think?

Right now our D looks like

Lindgren-Fox
Miller-Trouba
Jones-Schneider
Harpur

But we could really use a defenseman like Toews, or even Girard for that matter.
 

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can we at least hold off until we find out what happened with Nichushkin and his lady "friend" in a hotel room during a playoff series with Seattle?
I mean I know Mika was bad this series but he's still a valuable two way center and I know so many Ranger fans can't wait to get rid of another 21 year old defenseman.
There’s no investigation into him from what I heard? I don’t think they’re suspecting him of any wrongdoing, could be a crazy drunken stalker who snuck into his hotel for all we know. I was thinking maybe this will sour the relationship between the team and player.

I think Mika & Kreider need to be broken up, their country club bromance and softness is Toronto-esque. I think splitting them up would be the biggest shakeup to the room
 
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Drury is currently using back channels to scheme a way for Sullivan to resign but be allowed to coach next year for the Rangers lmao
Pens still haven't hired a new GM, correct? Maybe he is waiting to see if whomever they hire decides to keep Sullivan or bring in his own guy
 

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That makes sense, I know your center depth is kinda weak right now. I would personally love Toews, he'd be awesome but would he even be available? He's an elite defenseman in his own right. What would the price be do you think?

Right now our D looks like

Lindgren-Fox
Miller-Trouba
Jones-Schneider
Harpur

But we could really use a defenseman like Toews, or even Girard for that matter.

That’s the big question on moving Toews. It would really depend on what sort of package the Avs would get back. Obviously in the ideal world if the Avs move any of their LHD they’d be targeting a good young center man, but it could be feasible to move D. Toews in the right package.

With that being I think most Avs fans would like to trade Girard if the option was there and I think he would fit the Rangers like a glove. He had a very solid playoffs (arguably the Avs most consistent defender) and is still relatively young and signed long term.

Depending on what sort of package Rangers fans would be willing to offer I could see the potential to move either though.
 
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I thought I read that Sullivan is part of the Pen’s search committee for a new GM. If that’s true, Sullivan is not available.


Lemieux’s group no longer owns the Penguins, having sold to Fenway Sports Group (FSG) midway through the 2021-22 season. And although GM searches generally follow the same pattern — candidates are identified, interviewed, and a winner emerges from a small selection of finalists — the Penguins, under FSG’s helm, have kept a tight lid on all aspects of the current process.
That is by design.
The Penguins’ stance is not to publicly comment on the process. The Athletic has learned that only a small group of people — one that includes Beeston, Acklin and coach Mike Sullivan — know where the search stands.
It’s unclear, however, if they plan to hire just a GM who will oversee hockey operations, both a GM and a president of hockey operations, both a GM and a senior advisor or any combination of the positions. It’s also unclear whether there’s a timeframe for the hire or hires. On April 14, after the Penguins fired Ron Hextall (GM), Chris Pryor (assistant GM) and Brian Burke (president of hockey operations), Beeston said they’d like to have their leadership team hired “as soon as possible without rushing it.”
Teams rarely enter the NHL Draft — this year in Nashville on June 28-29 — without a GM.
Beeston and Acklin could be leaning on Sullivan, who is signed for another four seasons after an extension last August and who has more NHL connections than any current team employee. Sullivan has the respect of FSG’s top officers, including Beeston and fellow Penguins alternate governor Sam Kennedy, in addition to FSG owner John Henry and chairman Tom Werner.
FSG is a Boston-based sports and entertainment conglomerate. Sullivan is a native of Marshfield, Mass.
Even if he is involved early in the process, Sullivan is not expected to have a final say in the selection of new hockey operations leadership.
 

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Does anyone have access to the charts that show projected player contracts this off-season? I'm mainly curious about:

Forwards:
Jesper Fast
Vlad Tarasenko
Conor Brown
Max Pacioretty
Evan Rodrigues
Losh Leivo
Noel Acciari
Conor Garland (I'm assuming he is bought out so is there a way to determine value fair value if he is bought out?)
Teddy Blueger
Lars Eller
Jason Zucker
Tyler Bertuzzi
Tyler Motte
Garnet Hathaway

D-men:
Shayne Gostisbehere
Niko Mikkola
Dimitry Orlov

Goalies:
Jaroslav Halak



Side note -

If Drury and the Rangers sign Motte, then the bookends of the 4th line are pretty much set going in to next season barring injury. If the Rangers want to give an opportunity to a kid like Cuylle, that will probably mean he is looking at a top-9 role. He's a LW. Unless Vesey is pushed up and Motte slides over to RW, which is possible.
 

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Does anyone have access to the charts that show projected player contracts this off-season? I'm mainly curious about:

Forwards:
Jesper Fast
Vlad Tarasenko
Conor Brown
Max Pacioretty
Evan Rodrigues
Losh Leivo
Noel Acciari
Conor Garland (I'm assuming he is bought out so is there a way to determine value fair value if he is bought out?)
Teddy Blueger
Lars Eller
Jason Zucker
Tyler Bertuzzi
Tyler Motte
Garnet Hathaway

D-men:
Shayne Gostisbehere
Niko Mikkola
Dimitry Orlov

Goalies:
Jaroslav Halak



Side note -

If Drury and the Rangers sign Motte, then the bookends of the 4th line are pretty much set going in to next season barring injury. If the Rangers want to give an opportunity to a kid like Cuylle, that will probably mean he is looking at a top-9 role. He's a LW. Unless Vesey is pushed up and Motte slides over to RW, which is possible.

Evolving Wild used to do these but EV's stuff is all behind a paywall now.
 
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Does anyone have access to the charts that show projected player contracts this off-season? I'm mainly curious about:

Forwards:
Jesper Fast
Vlad Tarasenko
Conor Brown
Max Pacioretty
Evan Rodrigues
Losh Leivo
Noel Acciari
Conor Garland (I'm assuming he is bought out so is there a way to determine value fair value if he is bought out?)
Teddy Blueger
Lars Eller
Jason Zucker
Tyler Bertuzzi
Tyler Motte
Garnet Hathaway

D-men:
Shayne Gostisbehere
Niko Mikkola
Dimitry Orlov

Goalies:
Jaroslav Halak



Side note -

If Drury and the Rangers sign Motte, then the bookends of the 4th line are pretty much set going in to next season barring injury. If the Rangers want to give an opportunity to a kid like Cuylle, that will probably mean he is looking at a top-9 role. He's a LW. Unless Vesey is pushed up and Motte slides over to RW, which is possible.
The projections are gonna be off imo. Especially for the bottom6ers

It doesn't take into account the flat cap and how nearly all teams are strapped.
 
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@Perratrooper I noticed your center depth isn’t great, the other day I proposed something around Zibanejad & Schneider for Byram & Nichushkin. What would you think of that?
Moving Mika seems like a super reactionary move. And honestly how often do guys that sign 8 year extensions get moved in the first year, let alone the first 2 or 3?
 

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Moving Mika doesn't make sense unless its for another Center that wants out.. ( McDavid, Matthews types )

What we do need is to take the lead defensive responsibilities off of him. Get an actual 4C that's GOOD at defense.

Need to sign Acciari or Blueger.

Vesey Blueger/Acciari Hathaway would be a nice 4th line.
 

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Staple and Friedman both confirmed a loud argument between management and the coaching staff after one of the games against the Devils
Feels a little clickbaity to me. Is this a product of a larger underlying issue or were tempers running high after blowing a 2-0 series lead?
 
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100% agree. with this. For the life me I just don't understand why NYR have no issues with integrating homegrown defensemen throughout the years. Drafted, or traded for as a prospect NYR have had Staal, Girardi, Sauer, McD, Fox, Lindgren, Miller, Schneider all part of their core at some poin. All made their debut with the NYR, and all of their big FA signings for D have failed miserable (redden, Shatty, to a lesser extent Trouba), but for whatever reason NYR prospects that have become a part of the core since the Dubi/Cally days have been Kreider. That's it. Sure Buch for a time but to me he was shipped out to soon to be considered a core piece.
They don’t have a problem integrating the defensemen because they’re usually that desperate for defensemen lmao. They would take the guy who cleans the bathrooms and put him in as a defenseman if they could
 

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Moving Mika doesn't make sense unless its for another Center that wants out.. ( McDavid, Matthews types )

What we do need is to take the lead defensive responsibilities off of him. Get an actual 4C that's GOOD at defense.

Need to sign Acciari or Blueger.

Vesey Blueger/Acciari Hathaway would be a nice 4th line.

How much do you think Hathaway makes? That's my major concern with him. $2m?
 

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Toews would be a great fit for this team
Along with Kane and Q, he will fit right in. The question is which young player do we offer up for abuse that they can collectively ignore?

Moving Mika doesn't make sense unless its for another Center that wants out.. ( McDavid, Matthews types )

What we do need is to take the lead defensive responsibilities off of him. Get an actual 4C that's GOOD at defense.

Need to sign Acciari or Blueger.

Vesey Blueger/Acciari Hathaway would be a nice 4th line.
Nico Sturm.
 
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