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Roster Building Thread VI (2022-23): Offseason edition

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I'm trying to finagle a lineup in capfriendly that works for what I'm trying to do. I think the team needs better puck retrievers and some guys who can both keep and move the puck. I don't think Jones is going to make this team either so that leaves options pretty slim.

In this scenario, I also re-signed Gettinger, Blidh and Lockwood. My thoughts would be to demote 3/4 of Leivo, Gettinger, Blidh and Lockwood and roll with whoever takes that 4th line spot. Motte provides some flexibility in that he can play either wing so should Othmann or Cuylle show they are ready, the lines can be jumbled to make that work.

Leivo's underlying stats have been good for a while. He's a bigger body who can control the puck well along the boards. He's not going to be flashy but perhaps he snags a spot.

Kreider-Trochek-Vesey should be a thing. They work well together.

Engvall may be a tad high, perhaps he is more likely to be at $2.8m

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I hope they do get a chance at Kane for close to minimum @ 1 yr because despite how cheap he was to get, it doesn't feel like the Rangers got their money's worth at all with him yet. Plus a full year with a new coach would be a great experience for some of the younger forwards.

Just gotta get Ciaccio in there to help him get his stick work back and he'll be ship shape.
 
Mikachu93 said:
I think he is saying in the event he can't come back, you can LTIR him and it would not be against the cap but he still gets his $$$.

2-3 years if the cap hit is under 3m is a worthwhile risk
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But it accomplishes nothing other than the team having dead cap space because you can not add a player to use the additional funds since he might need be activated prior to the end of the season.
 
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Roo Returns said:
There's a famous movie quote: "What you want is irrelevant, what you have chosen is at hand."

I gave about 5-6 names/possibilities. Stepan is an option, not the only option.

-The Rangers need to get rid of Goodrow for cap.
-The Rangers don't have much cap space.
-The Rangers need a professional veteran 4C who may be centering two rookies (Cullye and Edstrom)
-Going into the season with Johnny Brodz or Jake Leschycyun as a 4C is already a disadvantage.
-The Rangers don't have any non AAAA in house fourth line center options.

They made the choices they made. Time to sleep in that bed.

Stepan would be the 4th/5th option I'd go to. I'd rather Derek Ryan, Derek Grant, Teddy Blueger, Pierre-Edouard Bellemare, or Pius Suter. Heck, I'd even call up Brass and see if his injury is progressing and he can play. But those guys may not want to come to NY. They may not want a one year deal. If it's down to Stepan vs. Brodz/Lesch, you gotta go with the the veteran in this case.
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Brodzinski is better than stepan as an example. Brodzinski isnt an awful center. I watch a good amount of pack games and hes everywhere. Hes also the captain down there and played on a line with cuylle last year and they were the packs best duo of forwards. So thats not an issue.
 
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kyk1827 said:
Brodzinski is better than stepan as an example. Brodzinski isnt an awful center. I watch a good amount of pack games and hes everywhere. Hes also the captain down there and played on a line with cuylle last year and they were the packs best duo of forwards. So thats not an issue.
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If we still don't have someone better than Brodzinski to call up there's a serious issue here with drafting or acquiring NHL players. The guy has been hanging around for a while now, he is what he is and this management needs to get better players for Hartford.
 
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Kords said:
I hope they do get a chance at Kane for close to minimum @ 1 yr because despite how cheap he was to get, it doesn't feel like the Rangers got their money's worth at all with him yet. Plus a full year with a new coach would be a great experience for some of the younger forwards.

Just gotta get Ciaccio in there to help him get his stick work back and he'll be ship shape.
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Doesn't happen. But I'd take him 1 yr 1M.
 
It has come to my attention that Sean Tschigerl will not be tendered a contract by Anaheim. I am not sure why as by most accounts he continued to impress in the Dub post draft.

This is a kid I wish we had targeted with one of our fourths back in 2021.

Cheap bottom 6 energy. I wonder if this is another case of a kid just wanting to stay near home.

If he is willing, would love to get him in the fold.
 
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Shesterkybomb said:
If we still don't have someone better than Brodzinski to call up there's a serious issue here with drafting or acquiring NHL players. The guy has been hanging around for a while now, he is what he is and this management needs to get better players for Hartford.
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What better 4C’s are available for league minimum? Because league Minimum is basically all we can afford due to the cap
 
kyk1827 said:
What better 4C’s are available for league minimum? Because league Minimum is basically all we can afford due to the cap
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I'm okay with a plan of having Brodzinski compete for the 4C, but if that's the case, they should look at another, lower cost vet who can come in and compete for that spot.

Maybe someone like Derek Ryan or Nick Bonino would take low cap hit, short term deals.
 
NYR Viper said:
I'm okay with a plan of having Brodzinski compete for the 4C, but if that's the case, they should look at another, lower cost vet who can come in and compete for that spot.

Maybe someone like Derek Ryan or Nick Bonino would take low cap hit, short term deals.
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I wouldnt sign anyone for more than a year as we have some prospects that can fill 4C soon. I hope in 2024 Bryce McConnell Barker can snag that spot whether it be from game 1 or game 40 after a little run in the jungle

Thats why I like brodzinski to bridge that one year gap. The more I think about it, the more I think Motte wouldnt be a smart signing for more than one year with guys like edstrom, sykora, othmann, cuylle coming up
 
kyk1827 said:
I wouldnt sign anyone for more than a year as we have some prospects that can fill 4C soon. I hope in 2024 Bryce McConnell Barker can snag that spot whether it be from game 1 or game 40 after a little run in the jungle

Thats why I like brodzinski to bridge that one year gap
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I wouldn't hate Blueger or Acciari. Both guys can play wing as needed and fill in as a 5th C on the roster even if Barker is ready in a year (which I doubt).
 
Some cheaper depth guys to consider if the likes of Nosek, Rod, Heinen, etc. go elsewhere:

Michael Carcone
Alex Belzile
Joel Kiviranta
Zach Sanford
Saku Mäenalanen
Vinnie Hinostroza

Also, one good RD that the Rangers should go for, Steven Santini. Would be great for Hartford with their thin RD and would be a good in a pinch callup if you don't want to have Harpur play his off side.
 
Waivers said:
What has Lafrienere done to deserve a permanent LW spot? He was even more invisible than Panarin in the playoffs, and Panarin is way better than him. And Kreider had a 52 goal season prior, and 6 goals in 7 playoff games. Are you really moving either one of them off their LW for Lafrienere, who has a long way to go? I agree he needs more minutes and more opportunities, but not at the expense of others who are just simply better hockey players. He better get used to RW.
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It’s not about what Lafreniere has done. It’s about finally putting a high pick in a position to succeed, like pretty much every other team does, in order to develop him. The fact that we are comparing Panarin to a 21 year old who’s been struggling g to find his NHL game tells just how little Panarin deserves to be a permanent LW… Breads best days are obviously behind him, with a little luck and common sense we could actually develop Laf into an impact player… it’s us investing in our future.

TheGortonConspiracy said:
Barring any trades, I would like to see Othmann and Cuylle start the season. Then probably Jake Leschyshyn will fill out the 4th line (or cheap UFA RW).

The game plan is to sign Kane and have his actual cap hit discounted since he misses half the season. But if we sign Laf to something around 3 and KAM to something around 5 we half 500k in cap space for the year. Just not enough.

Goodrow going to be expensive to dump (1st +). It's going to be more expensive to get Kane on the team this year than it was last year.
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There is NO f***ing way NYR add a 1st to get rid of Goodrow. That’s insanity. They should be able to get something useful without adding at all. Holy shit, a 1st. They’d just buy him out.
 
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Kane will miss 4-6 months now that he had his procedure. 90 point player the year before. ~60 points this year on one hip and more effective in the playoffs than our 12 million dollar man.



This was written right before Kanes surgery. Now that we know what the procedure is it makes a big difference. They were projecting him to make 5.75 mil per. This is the same surgery done on Kesler, Jovanovski, Backstrom, Hagelin... the results aren't great. It was a big deal last summer for Backstrom to get this done.. I'm not sure if Kane's situation is less severe or what the details are but it's something that's not really being talked much about. GMs are dumb but I don't see a single one handing out 5 million a year for such a huge risk. I'm interested in Kane simply because I think he'll get a prove it deal. Again... I don't know the intricate details here but Backstrom took over 6 months to come back.. the possible 4 month figure they're giving here... maybe it's a less severe case, I don't know? Backstrom was a shell of himself.. maybe a full off-season will get him back to a higher level? We need guys playing above their cap hit, if Kane signs incredibly cheap and he can still be somewhat productive there's some value... I just don't know how his situation compares to past players
 
Lets say hypothetically come spring 2024 rangers get bounced in 1st or 2nd round. You move trouba and kreider next offseason, no?

Trouba will have 2 years left 8mill cap hit but only $6mill salary each of those years. He’ll have a limited NTC but reality is if you tell him youre moving him, hes going where you find a suitor.

Kreider will likewise have a limited NTC at a $6.5 cap hit but only $5 mill salary each year on the remaining 3 years.

Im curious what these guys could fetch. Trouba more of a salary dump so maybe if were lucky we dont have to attach assets as im sure theres a smaller market capfloor team that would want him for vet presence so maybe a 3rd and C level prospect.

Kreider is interesting, with the cap going up if he remains a 30+ goal scorer net front presence we can probably get a decent return for him.

What do you guys think
 
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