Roster Building Thread VI (2022-23): Offseason edition

[SA16]

One of those “great” 40 goal years was due to an anomaly 5 goal performance one irrelevant game. Panarin has been a far better ranger than gaborik

That is what I said.

 

[RangersFan1994]

I have a weird question. Anyone think the Rangers would have won a cup with less quality goaltending, if they had better defense and scoring? reason I ask this is because with the playoffs, you get a hot goalie, anything can happen? Annti Niemi has a Stanley Cup. Is he a better goalie than Henrik Lundqvist. If Vegas wins or if Florida wins, are both of those goalies as good as Henrik. I like Bob but he is not good as Henrik.

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

Yet all teams have to deal with it

We're the only morons that handed the biggest (at the time) contract out to a perimeter player WHILE we were just starting to rebuild.

The cap is bullshit. But it's a league-wide issue.

We just can't stop ourselves from constantly throwing jewels at the whore on the corner.

Is that Twain?

 

[RangerBoy]

Not even a $2M increase. Elliotte Friedman had reported a couple of times in the last few months about the possibility of a $1.5M to $2M cap increase without needing to touch escrow at 6% for next season. The players have paid off most of their debt and a $2M increase would work.

The NHL didn’t want to do that.

The projections are $88M in 24-25 and $92M in 25-26.

 

[RangerBoy]

The Rangers have enough money to pay Lafreniere($2.5M would be nice for two seasons) and Miller(Dobson contract). Lafreniere moves to RW. The Rangers will need a few of their kids to fill roster spots. Jones or Robertson on D. Cuylle and Othmann at forward. The Rangers don't have anyone else. Goodrow's money can be used for two players. Trade Goodrow for a player making $2M and sign another player with $1.6M. Trade Goodrow to free up the money and sign two players. Halak gets a one year bonus deal because the Rangers can't afford $1.5M. This is why the Rangers need a coach who will work with the young players. They need more from the young players on the roster and contribution from other kids who need to play next season. Drury hires Laviolette and his fetish for old players. The Rangers are in trouble.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

The Rangers have enough money to pay Lafreniere($2.5M would be nice for two seasons) and Miller(Dobson contract). Lafreniere moves to RW. The Rangers will need a few of their kids to fill roster spots. Jones or Robertson on D. Cuylle and Othmann at forward. The Rangers don't have anyone else. Goodrow's money can be used for two players. Trade Goodrow for a player making $2M and sign another player with $1.6M. Trade Goodrow to free up the money and sign two players. Halak gets a one year bonus deal because the Rangers can't afford $1.5M. This is why the Rangers need a coach who will work with the young players. They need more from the young players on the roster and contribution from other kids who need to play next season. Drury hires Laviolette and his fetish for old players. The Rangers are in trouble.

Next coach has to get a set of balls and put Kreider or Panarin on rw.

I have a weird question. Anyone think the Rangers would have won a cup with less quality goaltending, if they had better defense and scoring? reason I ask this is because with the playoffs, you get a hot goalie, anything can happen? Annti Niemi has a Stanley Cup. Is he a better goalie than Henrik Lundqvist. If Vegas wins or if Florida wins, are both of those goalies as good as Henrik. I like Bob but he is not good as Henrik.

No i don't, unless you mean revamping the whole team. Our top players never showed up, we'd have gotten blown out if it weren't for the only guy that showed up, Shesterkin.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Not even a $2M increase. Elliotte Friedman had reported a couple of times in the last few months about the possibility of a $1.5M to $2M cap increase without needing to touch escrow at 6% for next season. The players have paid off most of their debt and a $2M increase would work.

The NHL didn’t want to do that.

The projections are $88M in 24-25 and $92M in 25-26.

Hes not wrong. The $70M will likely be paid off by the end of October/beginning of November and should allow for a $2.5M-$3M cap increase for the coming season without changing the percent of player funds held in escrow.

Smaller market teams have a lower cap floor if thr cap doesn't move and increases those teams profit margins. Which when I type that sounds utterly ridiculous.

 

[Daves a mess]

I don't think ANY coach can fix Lafs lack of high end skill.

Panarins love for pond hockey.

Mikas inability to become a big game or series player.

And especially this franchises embarrassing inability to draft and develop a high end forward.

This roster has a moon sized lack of talent on RW as well.

Some of you guys think ( whoever it is that you are knobbing on for HC) is going to fix that, then cool beans for you.

Skill, fit, and good drafting anyday over the talking head in a suit behind the players.

This org HAS to start drafting top six forwards. This franchise can't win a cup ( consensus or not) with picks like Lias Andersson, Vitali Kravtsov, Alexis Lafreniere and Kaapo Kakko, where the best of the bunch most label as "meh".

 

[haohmaru]

This org HAS to start drafting top six forwards. This franchise can't win a cup ( consensus or not) with picks like Lias Andersson, Vitali Kravtsov, Alexis Lafreniere and Kaapo Kakko, where the best of the bunch most label as "meh".

Every team in the NHL would've made the same pick.

 

[bernmeister]

Yet all teams have to deal with it

We're the only morons that handed the biggest (at the time) contract out to a perimeter player WHILE we were just starting to rebuild.

The cap is bullshit. But it's a league-wide issue.

We just can't stop ourselves from constantly throwing jewels at the whore on the corner.

And it's one thing if the whore puts out...

Not a huge fan of either one.

Again. knob pls

 

[bernmeister]

The Rangers have enough money to pay Lafreniere($2.5M would be nice for two seasons) and Miller(Dobson contract). Lafreniere moves to RW. The Rangers will need a few of their kids to fill roster spots. Jones or Robertson on D. Cuylle and Othmann at forward. The Rangers don't have anyone else. Goodrow's money can be used for two players. Trade Goodrow for a player making $2M and sign another player with $1.6M. Trade Goodrow to free up the money and sign two players. Halak gets a one year bonus deal because the Rangers can't afford $1.5M. This is why the Rangers need a coach who will work with the young players. They need more from the young players on the roster and contribution from other kids who need to play next season. Drury hires Laviolette and his fetish for old players. The Rangers are in trouble.

Agree w da bold, I got other tweaks

 

[Waivers]

Next coach has to get a set of balls and put Kreider or Panarin on rw.


No i don't, unless you mean revamping the whole team. Our top players never showed up, we'd have gotten blown out if it weren't for the only guy that showed up, Shesterkin.

What has Lafrienere done to deserve a permanent LW spot? He was even more invisible than Panarin in the playoffs, and Panarin is way better than him. And Kreider had a 52 goal season prior, and 6 goals in 7 playoff games. Are you really moving either one of them off their LW for Lafrienere, who has a long way to go? I agree he needs more minutes and more opportunities, but not at the expense of others who are just simply better hockey players. He better get used to RW.

 

[howztheglass]

If there is an actual player named Dude there, I'm now a Calgary Flames fan

Got me. My bad Dube.

Just wondering as a Flames fan do you think this is a fair offer?

 

[howztheglass]

This Dude?!?...

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Seasoned vet.

 

[Synergy27]

I have a weird question. Anyone think the Rangers would have won a cup with less quality goaltending, if they had better defense and scoring? reason I ask this is because with the playoffs, you get a hot goalie, anything can happen? Annti Niemi has a Stanley Cup. Is he a better goalie than Henrik Lundqvist. If Vegas wins or if Florida wins, are both of those goalies as good as Henrik. I like Bob but he is not good as Henrik.

During the Henrik years? Maybe. Those teams tended to lack high end talent and he certainly occupied a large percentage of the cap. He earned it though.

So far with Shesty? No, he doesn’t make that much money yet. But this is why many here think it might be a mistake to resign him to a big contract after this one is up.

 

[howztheglass]

Next coach has to HAVE a set of balls.

Anyone else think Drury wakes up every morning and watches the Lavi video? Love the video by the way.

I could see how Drury believes Lavi can fix all the issues, handle the kids put the vets in place, be the nice coach be the nasty coach blah blah blah.

Hopefully the Rangers interview Roy this week and maybe a surprise.

Roy, Lavi, Hynes who you got.

Leach and Knobs look better, but Drury isn't going to take that chance.

In the end looks like it will be Lavi even though most of us wanted Drury to go in a different way.

 

[Vitto79]

Next coach has to HAVE a set of balls.

Anyone else think Drury wakes up every morning and watches the Lavi video? Love the video by the way.

I could see how Drury believes Lavi can fix all the issues, handle the kids put the vets in place, be the nice coach be the nasty coach blah blah blah.

Hopefully the Rangers interview Roy this week and maybe a surprise.

Roy, Lavi, Hynes who you got.

Leach and Knobs look better, but Drury isn't going to take that chance.

In the end looks like it will be Lavi even though most of us wanted Drury to go in a different way.

I’m guessing he’s working on a Lavy and Hynes combo . Coach and Assistant to take over in 2 yrs.

May be weird since Hynes took over for Lavy in Nashville though lol

I’m interested to see the rfa resigning numbers
Do they not need to get it done before ufa to know what they can do?

 

[Vitto79]

All we are saying is give jones a chance

I’d like that but I’m also not shocked if he’s dealt for another young player and they sign a cheap 6th D

On a separate note Martinook and a mid round pick for Goodrow ?

 

[LORDE]

Is that Twain?

I'll take that as a compliment

But no... just my unhealthy brain lol

 

[BobMarleyNYR]

ot me. My bad Dube.

Just wondering as a Flames fan do you think this is a fair offer?

I'm still reeling that it's not Dude... I seriously forgot Dube existed. NYR had a Dube in like 2000. He sucked, so nah dude.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

I don't think ANY coach can fix Lafs lack of high end skill.

Panarins love for pond hockey.

Mikas inability to become a big game or series player.

And especially this franchises embarrassing inability to draft and develop a high end forward.

This roster has a moon sized lack of talent on RW as well.

Some of you guys think ( whoever it is that you are knobbing on for HC) is going to fix that, then cool beans for you.

Skill, fit, and good drafting anyday over the talking head in a suit behind the players.

This org HAS to start drafting top six forwards. This franchise can't win a cup ( consensus or not) with picks like Lias Andersson, Vitali Kravtsov, Alexis Lafreniere and Kaapo Kakko, where the best of the bunch most label as "meh".

It needs to be addressed already. I know we all joke that showing Ciaccao the door is something that is east to do. It goes deeper.

You need to start drafting more forwards and ones who can skate with clear skill at the junior levels.

Stop taking reach goalies and overage goons with mid round picks.

 

[haohmaru]

Agree w da bold, I got other tweaks

I don't love Hynes but isn't he the guy that "can work with the young guys" - he was a US developmental coach for years.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

It's funny, now that Bettman has made the statement about the cap, we can finally start being more realistic with these roster moves, It's my bi-weekly PSA:

-Due to cap we can all expect Othmann/Cullye/Edstrom to get serious looks.

-Of the three, as long as Cullye doesn't have a lot of friends getting married, go to Star Wars cons (he is a big fan from his draft interview for those who remember) basically pull a Brendan Smith Summer of 2017, he should be on the roster.

-Zac Jones should get a look if he's still here post-July 1st.

-Goodrow out and one of the Dereks (Ryan/Grant/Stepan) in on a one year deal.

-I'd still like to sign Kulikov if there's any room left to be the 6th-7th however not at the expense of Jones.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

What has Lafrienere done to deserve a permanent LW spot? He was even more invisible than Panarin in the playoffs, and Panarin is way better than him. And Kreider had a 52 goal season prior, and 6 goals in 7 playoff games. Are you really moving either one of them off their LW for Lafrienere, who has a long way to go? I agree he needs more minutes and more opportunities, but not at the expense of others who are just simply better hockey players. He better get used to RW.

The point is that one guy is struggling to get traction, throwing him on his offwing only piles on that. Kreider hasn't been a dynamo 5 on 5 anyway, most of his damage is on the pp, him moving down a line or into another position doesn't change anything 5 on 5. In all my years of coaching and being coached taught me that one main part of being a good coach is recognizing a player who is struggling with confidence and putting them in a position to succeed. Putting Laf on his off wing is counter productive. This team is going nowhere without Kakko and Lafreniere being major parts of it. This team can't figure that out, they never do and they sacrifice long term success for regular season gain. The best Laf looked this year was after they put him with Zibanejad, but they only did it for 4 periods because they didnt win that game.

 

[LaffyTaffy13]

It's funny, now that Bettman has made the statement about the cap, we can finally start being more realistic with these roster moves, It's my bi-weekly PSA:

-Due to cap we can all expect Othmann/Cullye/Edstrom to get serious looks.

-Of the three, as long as Cullye doesn't have a lot of friends getting married, go to Star Wars cons (he is a big fan from his draft interview for those who remember) basically pull a Brendan Smith Summer of 2017, he should be on the roster.

-Zac Jones should get a look if he's still here post-July 1st.

-Goodrow out and one of the Dereks (Ryan/Grant/Stepan) in on a one year deal.

-I'd still like to sign Kulikov if there's any room left to be the 6th-7th however not at the expense of Jones.

On a team that lacks speed why would we want derek stepan? In his prime his skating looked like he was in a sandbox