Savant
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Yes. You don’t need a vezina goalie to win a cup. You need your goalie to get hot at the right time. There’s no way I’m giving Igor another contract
Roster Building Thread VI (2022-23): Offseason edition
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So would you let him walk or trade him and to see if a team would overpay at the deadline? This is the Rangers so they'll just trade his rights for just a 6th before the draft lol
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HFsNumber1Heel
FKA Roo Returns...Still A Contrarian Apparently
There's a famous movie quote: "What you want is irrelevant, what you have chosen is at hand."
I gave about 5-6 names/possibilities. Stepan is an option, not the only option.
-The Rangers need to get rid of Goodrow for cap.
-The Rangers don't have much cap space.
-The Rangers need a professional veteran 4C who may be centering two rookies (Cullye and Edstrom)
-Going into the season with Johnny Brodz or Jake Leschycyun as a 4C is already a disadvantage.
-The Rangers don't have any non AAAA in house fourth line center options.
They made the choices they made. Time to sleep in that bed.
Stepan would be the 4th/5th option I'd go to. I'd rather Derek Ryan, Derek Grant, Teddy Blueger, Pierre-Edouard Bellemare, or Pius Suter. Heck, I'd even call up Brass and see if his injury is progressing and he can play. But those guys may not want to come to NY. They may not want a one year deal. If it's down to Stepan vs. Brodz/Lesch, you gotta go with the the veteran in this case.
TheGortonConspiracy
Wow its a nice GM
Barring any trades, I would like to see Othmann and Cuylle start the season. Then probably Jake Leschyshyn will fill out the 4th line (or cheap UFA RW).
The game plan is to sign Kane and have his actual cap hit discounted since he misses half the season. But if we sign Laf to something around 3 and KAM to something around 5 we half 500k in cap space for the year. Just not enough.
Goodrow going to be expensive to dump (1st +). It's going to be more expensive to get Kane on the team this year than it was last year.
The game plan is to sign Kane and have his actual cap hit discounted since he misses half the season. But if we sign Laf to something around 3 and KAM to something around 5 we half 500k in cap space for the year. Just not enough.
Goodrow going to be expensive to dump (1st +). It's going to be more expensive to get Kane on the team this year than it was last year.
Sorry, resounding NO to return of Step
no also to leshitshow, but Brodz is fine
I Eat Crow
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What?
Goodrow will get an asset back if he's dealt this summer. And the Rangers won't have to retain or pay another asset to do it either. I'll bet all my Vcash on it.
n8
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My 4th line vision is Goodrow to SJ for Nico Sturm
Sign Fast for 2 years $3M
Vesey-Sturm-Fast
When Fast gets signed for the 4th line but then Mika and Panarin both go into the coaches office demanding to play with him. Do you move them to the 4th line? Or do you remember that line numbering isn't a thing in the first place.
n8
WAAAAAAA!!!
lol, so much roster trauma, I could totally see how I'm like "Vesey-Sturm-Fast, what a great 4th line that would be" and then the Rangers coach put them a 1RW and 2RW for 60 games in the season. Forgot Fast played quite a few games with Panarin in his last season with us.
i stopped reading when he said the game plan is to sign Kane.
That hip resurfacing surgery is a serious surgery. Backstrom had the same surgery and he didn't look that good when he returned. Backstrom is an old guy. He isn’t the player he was 5-7 years ago. The Capitals are old and need to rebuild. Laviolette is a awful coach. Backstrom didn’t have much of an impact when he returned. I never felt the Capitals will now make the playoffs with Backstrom returning.
Jovo Cop had the same surgery. He didn't play long after the surgery.
Ryan Kesler had the same surgery on both hips. He never played again.
All of these guys are old. Kane will be 35 this fall.
Kane didn't have a routine torn labrum hip surgery.
The Rangers move Goodrow's money in a trade or a buyout. Drury will need that money to fill out the roster with good players and not players who just dress for games.
The salary cap will be $83.5M. Players will get squeezed. There should be players available in the $1M-$1.5M range.
Take out Harpur. Try to get a better D.
The Rangers will have $16.2M in space with 12 players on the roster.
$6.5M-$7M will go to Lafreniere and Miller.
The Rangers have to add 8 more players. The entry level players such as Othmann, Cuylle, Jones($800,000) and Robertson are important.
The Rangers fill out the roster with $1M-$1.5M players.
Keep Good for now; if injury forces a team to make a good offer later during the season, be open to it, but for now, he helps us.
Can still do long term extend, not bridge, with KAM, 6.25 x 8, extensive ntc, no nmc for anyone.
LaF gets 1 yr min
Sell high on Lindgren best offer chiefly pick(s).
Deal Jones + Avs 3rd for a better 3rd or late 2nd.
Cuylie, Oth, Robertson
Harpur I think is 2 way, see if we can up his skating a bit
NYR Viper
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I think it's a worthwhile risk to sign Kane to a reasonable 3 year deal this off-season. If he can't come back to play then he gets his guaranteed money and the Rangers LTIR him. If he comes back as a similar player to the one he was this year, which still managed to put up 57 points in 73 games playing on one leg, you have a 3rd line, play driving, RWer at a cheap cap hit.
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I think the concern is tthat the coaching staff won't be able to resist putting him in top 6 role based on reputation.
NYR Viper
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If I am Drury, I have to trust my coach to do the right thing. If not, then he's the wrong coach.
Machinehead
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The Golden Knights are three wins from the Cup and they literally don't have a starting goaltender.
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Adin Hill was what, 5th string for them basically?
People will refuse to see it because they (rightfully) love Igor, but if you are cap strapped you can’t waste it on goalie. Anyone can play goalie for Vegas. Anyone can play goalie for the Hurricanes, etc
SA16
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How is he getting LTIR when his timeline is 4-6 months which is October-December? LTIR him would accomplish nothing because they couldn't even spend the extra available money because they'd need the space to activate him. If his 4-6 month timeline turns into 10-11 months something went very wrong.
NYR Viper
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If he is back to 100% in 6 months, isn't that a good thing? If he's not close to 100% then let him continue training until he is at that point.
I understand the hesitancy here but if the worst case scenario is that he is ready to go and near 100% too soon, I'll take that...
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The only scenario I approve a Kane extension is if it's a one year LTIR situation.
Improve. The. Blueline. Play Jones. Give Emberson a cup of coffee. Prepare for moving Trouba next offseason.
Improve. The. Blueline. Play Jones. Give Emberson a cup of coffee. Prepare for moving Trouba next offseason.
HonestGabe
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I think he is saying in the event he can't come back, you can LTIR him and it would not be against the cap but he still gets his $$$.
2-3 years if the cap hit is under 3m is a worthwhile risk
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Please just let Kane be in the past.
We’re gonna get sucked in though. He’s gonna sign for close to minimum but he’s not what we need. The only caveat is if Drury moves Panarin by some miracle
We’re gonna get sucked in though. He’s gonna sign for close to minimum but he’s not what we need. The only caveat is if Drury moves Panarin by some miracle
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