Speculation: Roster Building Thread V (2021 Offseason) - Hold them horses, only 45 days left until the draft!

[CLW]

Chayka and Barroway thought they had put together a successful rebuild and Hall was brought in to put them over the top. Miscalculation.

And If you’ve been following the soap opera out here, you know there is no chance of Meruelo being a “better” owner. He’s got a heck of a chance to be the next Bruce McNall or John Spano.

I never bought that line for a second. It was obvious at a glance that the rebuild was far from finished and the results were not there. They rolled the dice and missed (or hit if a sale was the aim).

Meruelo at least has actual money behind him, especially so if he can start to milk that state gambling deal. Him being willing to invest in the team, scouting, player development etc and staying out of GMBA's way is the best hope for the Coyotes. But sure, I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

We gave him away for nothing, but maybe we can get him back? Wouldn't' he be a great option to pair with Lundkvist?

From Denver post

Comment: Johnson, limited to just four games because of injuries, is expected to waive his no-movement clause to allow the Avs to protect Girard, Toews and restricted free agent Cale Makar in the expansion draft. Graves is a prime target for the Seattle Kraken. Byram is exempt from the draft, along with signed prospects Justin Barron and Nate Clurman.

If Colorado really might lose Graves to Seattle, maybe we should pounce and offer something?

Lindgren-Fox
Miller-Trouba (This pair played well when Trouba was healthy)
Graves-Lundkvist

 

[NYR Viper]

Yeah, that could work actually.

That would be quite the transformation of the top-9 in a single offseason. Both guys would bring what the team needs and their versatile. Probably looking at 70-75 points between the two of them

 

[Machinehead]

DeBrusk was good before this past year.

Also, trade with Boston. Boston is low-key really f***ing dumb and carried by players they drafted in like 2007.

 

[jay from jersey]

I like Debrusk. I think he can still be a very useful player and he changes the feel of the lineup. When he’s on he’s a very good puck hound. May need a change of scenery and he’s probably be great opposite Panarin. Plus Frederic is a good get for the bottom six and physicality. I’m not wholly against that deal.

I wanted Frederic for years just like Slats. I think we missed the boat on him. Maybe we can get Beecher instead??? I like DeBrusk but not at his 4.1mill QA

 

[jay from jersey]

Jets. Buch Barron NYR 2nd ‘22
Rangers Dubois

Would like to see what combination of Bread, Gallant and a major market could do for PLD

Bruins Strome Jones
NYR Debrusk Frederic

I like the Minnesota deal.

I floated on the trade forums
To NYR
Dvorak and Crouse

to Ari. Chytil/ Buch. + lundkvist

I think this is the type of package we have to deal to get a Cirelli, Dvorak, Lindholm etc type 2C guy here.

either that or they are tweaking it a bit and going for big sack Jack over in snowy Buffalo

 

[rangers1314]

DeBrusk was good before this past year.

Also, trade with Boston. Boston is low-key really f***ing dumb and carried by players they drafted in like 2007.

Isn’t he a LW? I agree he’s a good buy low guy but that position isn’t a need.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Us in 2017: Wow Chytil is this wiz kid teenager who is doing all this cool stuff really young.

Us in 2021: He's yesterday's news. Redundant.

Months he's been legally allowed to drink in the US: 10.

 

[Machinehead]

Isn’t he a LW? I agree he’s a good buy low guy but that position isn’t a need.

Pretty sure he can go either way.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

We gave him away for nothing, but maybe we can get him back? Wouldn't' he be a great option to pair with Lundkvist?

From Denver post

Comment: Johnson, limited to just four games because of injuries, is expected to waive his no-movement clause to allow the Avs to protect Girard, Toews and restricted free agent Cale Makar in the expansion draft. Graves is a prime target for the Seattle Kraken. Byram is exempt from the draft, along with signed prospects Justin Barron and Nate Clurman.

If Colorado really might lose Graves to Seattle, maybe we should pounce and offer something?

Lindgren-Fox
Miller-Trouba (This pair played well when Trouba was healthy)
Graves-Lundkvist

Rangers have zero need for a prime LHD with the 30,000 in the system. They could get a vet Cup Winner UFA one as a 7D is about as far as I'd go.

 

[jay from jersey]

Isn’t he a LW? I agree he’s a good buy low guy but that position isn’t a need.

I the EDM roles the dice on him next to McJesus or Drai. He’s a hometown kid. He had a good playoffs and the B s have to resign Hall and Krecji. DeBrusk is a likely candidate to be moved. Doubt Frederic is now TBH. They may be willing to move Jon Beecher though

 

[Machinehead]

I like the Minnesota deal.

I floated on the trade forums
To NYR
Dvorak and Crouse

to Ari. Chytil/ Buch. + lundkvist

I think this is the type of package we have to deal to get a Cirelli, Dvorak, Lindholm etc type 2C guy here.

either that or they are tweaking it a bit and going for big sack Jack over in snowy Buffalo

That's one of the worst trades for the Rangers I've ever seen on the Rangers board.

That package from Arizona doesn't bring back Lundkvist alone.

 

[jay from jersey]

That's one of the worst trades for the Rangers I've ever seen on the Rangers board.

That package from Arizona doesn't bring back Lundkvist alone.

fills 2 massive holes in our line up with young players who don’t have albatross contracts while dealing from a position of strength prospect wise.

Dvorak is exactly the type of center everyone is clamoring for to play with Panarin, and Crouse is a great 4th liner that is big, hits, everything, can score occasionally, and very good on the Pk.

Dvo signed to good cap/term and Crouse is a RFA next year who will get a minor raise. How is that one of the worst?

 

[Machinehead]

fills 2 massive holes in our line up with young players who don’t have albatross contracts while dealing from a position of strength prospect wise

Dvorak isn't better than Chytil. They had virtually the same PPG this past year and Dvorak plays five more minutes per game. That's a wash at best.

So you're trading Lundkvist for Crouse. Crouse is positively horrendous. Literally Tanner Glass.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Us in 2017: Wow Chytil is this wiz kid teenager who is doing all this cool stuff really young.

Us in 2021: He's yesterday's news. Redundant.

Months he's been legally allowed to drink in the US: 10.

For comparison: Some former Rangers who had not made their NHL debut at the same age yet:

Kevin Hayes
Mats Zuccarello
Jesper Fast
Carl Hagelin
Dominic Moore
Brian Boyle

 

[jay from jersey]

Dvorak isn't better than Chytil. They had virtually the same PPG this past year and Dvorak plays five more minutes per game. That's a wash at best.

So you're trading Lundkvist for Crouse. Crouse is positively horrendous. Literally Tanner Glass.

One plays against teams top D on a team that has trouble scoring. One played on the rangers 3rd kid line. There’s a very big difference if you take the homer glasses off.

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Lundkvist is not going to get any substantial PP time here

 

[rangers1314]

Pretty sure he can go either way.

Kinky

 

[Machinehead]

One plays against teams top D on a team that has trouble scoring. One played on the rangers 3rd kid line. There’s a very big difference if you take the homer glasses off.

Yes, it's a big difference in Chytil's favor. He barely played on a bad line.

Lundkvist is not going to get any substantial PP time here

Here we go with the "Lundkvist is a PP specialist" fairy tale again.

 

[Machinehead]

Kinky

To go along with the torture porn of trading for Tanner Crouse.

 

[jay from jersey]

Yes, it's a big difference in Chytil's favor. He barely played on a bad line.



Here we go with the "Lundkvist is a PP specialist" fairy tale again.

Not a specialist, it’s a big part of his game. Teams play their top 4 more then their third pair. Fox and trouba will be doing that in the interim, then Schneider enters the picture as well. Lundkvist is a great asset, but some of his best attributes are going to be wasted here. You can keep him on 3rd pair his rookie season. In real life rangers aren’t going to pay Trouba 8 mill a yr to be a 3rd pair guy

 

[Machinehead]

Not a specialist, it’s a big part of his game. Teams play their top 4 more then their third pair. Fox and trouba will be doing that in the interim, then Schneider enters the picture as well. Lundkvist is a great asset, but some of his best attributes are going to be wasted here

Then maybe don't trade him for Tanner Glass?

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

So this idea for some reason just popped into my head. Carolina needs more scoring, especially on the wings, Neidereiter is one year from UFA too. Carolina can afford to give up a center with the depth they have (Aho, Staal, Necas can play center, plus they have Suzuki/Drury)

If Rangers dont want to/cant sign Buchnevich, what about a trade starting with Buchnevich for Trocheck? Who adds and what? Carolina can also afford to sign Buchnevich, Svech AND Hamilton plus fill out the rest of the roster.

Zibanejad
Trocheck (cheap enough to be a 3C if Chytil passes him)
Chytil (and he could move up if he warrants the top 6)

 

[DanielBrassard]

If you are going to trade Chytil and Lundkvist, might as well do it for Eichel.

 

[Machinehead]

So this idea for some reason just popped into my head. Carolina needs more scoring, especially on the wings, Neidereiter is one year from UFA too. Carolina can afford to give up a center with the depth they have (Aho, Staal, Necas can play center, plus they have Suzuki/Drury)

If Rangers dont want to/cant sign Buchnevich, what about a trade starting with Buchnevich for Trocheck? Who adds and what?

I like the idea of Trocheck.

Carolina already has too many wingers as it is (in addition to centers) and their need is going to be defense if Hamilton leaves. Skjei is also garbo.

Maybe they would be into Jones?

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

I like the idea of Trocheck.

Carolina already has too many wingers as it is (in addition to centers) and their need is going to be defense if Hamilton leaves. Skjei is also garbo.

Maybe they would be into Jones?

They have alot of wingers, but Buchnevich is better than most of them except for Svechnikov. Also, Neidereiter is an upcoming FA after next season, he can replace him.

I mean if they want defense even better.