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Speculation: Roster Building Thread V (2019/2020)

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Move Names.

Panarin - Zib - Kakko
Kreider - Chytil - Buch
Andersson - Strome - Kravtsov
Lemieux - Howden - Fast
Kegg

Skjei - Trouba
Staal - ADA
Hajek - Fox

Hank
Georgiev
 
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Loki Dog 74 said:
It’s a preseason game. Andersson SHOULD be playing in Strome’s spot. Strome is a veteran who isn’t in danger of being sent down. It’s a meaningless game for him. If that’s where he ends up when actual points in the standings are on the line, fine, but it’s hard to expect Andersson to show anything playing with an AHL/replacement level player and a goon. Meanwhile Lemieux, Andersson and Fast would be a viable checking line even during the regular season that could catch some chemistry and produce since they all hustle.
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Why do you assume that just because the lines start that way, they'll stay that way for the entire game? And how do you know this isn't a way to showcase Strome? Maybe Gorton has had discussions about him with some other team and they want to see him with better linemates.
 
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Loki Dog 74 said:
Everyone is always begging to see some offense from Andersson but he’s stapled to the two biggest scrubs possible while Howden centers Kaako and Kravstov. Later people will talk about how our #7 overall pick is busting and Howden shows more offensive flashes.
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It’s a good opportunity for Lias to show that he can carry a line though, get it up ice etc.
 
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GAGLine said:
Why do you assume that just because the lines start that way, they'll stay that way for the entire game? And how do you know this isn't a way to showcase Strome? Maybe Gorton has had discussions about him with some other team and they want to see him in the top 6.
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Were the 81 games Strome played last year not enough for a team to know who he is that they need to see him in the top 6 in a preseason game?
 
EpicDing said:
MUCH easier said than done If he was moveable he'd be gone already.
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Hopefully GMJG is just doing his best to get a great return. I believe he could 50% him to a lot of teams needing depth for a 2nd or 3rd round pick. Easier to move Names than a broken down Fast or a big questions make in Strome. Plus, both Fast and Strome outplay Names regularly. So Names is the odd man out.
 
I don't think it's a route that they'd go down but with all the garbage cap they have tied up the next couple seasons I'm almost content to just see most of the kids build some chemistry in the minors and really thrive in a larger role. Send down Lias, Howden and Kravstov, let the mutts build some value and see what you can get. Buch, Strome and Names replaced by the 3 kids by the deadline. I really like the idea of Kreider getting some Joe Thornton contracts. Mid term 2/3 years at 7$ mil, contracts up when the kids need to get paid, definitely something to think about.

Panarin-Zib-Buch
Kreider-Chytil-Kakko
Lemieux-Strome-Names
Lettieri-Nieves-Fast

I really hope on D the rangers go the Winnipeg route and just rock their righty talent. Especially during these development years I wanna see the top minutes going to the top talent. Gimme that top 4 of Trouba, Fox , DeAngelo, and Skjei.
 
SA16 said:
Were the 81 games Strome played last year not enough for a team to know who he is that they need to see him in the top 6 in a preseason game?
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You'd have to ask the other teams, assuming that's actually the reason behind it. How a player performed the year before isn't always a predictor of how they will perform the following year. This will be Andersson's 3rd game and he has performed well in the prior 2. This is only Strome's 2nd game. If I was a GM interested in Strome, I'd want to see him play in a 3rd line role if I'm thinking of having him on my 3rd line.

There are a lot of reasons why Strome might be starting ahead of Lias. Maybe Quinn has already seen enough of Lias and is happy with his progress. Maybe this is Strome's chance to avoid waivers. Maybe Quinn wants to get a look at Strome as the 3c before he decides how the center roles shake out.

I honestly don't know why people get so upset about this stuff. Is it really that hard to give Quinn the benefit of the doubt?
 
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MetalJaws said:
Hopefully GMJG is just doing his best to get a great return. I believe he could 50% him to a lot of teams needing depth for a 2nd or 3rd round pick. Easier to move Names than a broken down Fast or a big questions make in Strome. Plus, both Fast and Strome outplay Names regularly. So Names is the odd man out.
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Fast is broken down, Strome is a question mark, yet both have outplayed Names and you think that would make Names easier to move? If he is the worst of the 3 as you claim, and the most expensive, that would logically make him the most difficult to move.

Names has more value than you are giving him credit for, but even at 50%, there aren't a lot of teams that are looking to give good value for him. Very few teams have the cap or roster space.

He will get traded at some point, but it won't be until well into the season.
 
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One thing to keep in mind concerning roles and roster position is that it's not necessarily about what line someone is on. In many cases its about seeing which combinations work well together.

And in the absence of working well together, determining which combinations aren't complete dumpster fires.
 
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Edmundson was a 26 year old pending UFA that wasn't quite playing up to his current contract. They may have got a 3rd for him at the deadline, probably isn't a great top-four D. This trade is essentially Faulk for a late 1st. Given that he's now signed to a good number and term, not too bad.

Bigger question is now concerning Pietrangelo and Parayko. Someone has to go in the next year. Which are the Blues willing to move one season after winning the Cup?

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probably Pietrangelo, to the highest bidder.
 
Avery16 said:
Edmundson was a 26 year old pending UFA that wasn't quite playing up to his current contract. They may have got a 3rd for him at the deadline, probably isn't a great top-four D. This trade is essentially Faulk for a late 1st. Given that he's now signed to a good number and term, not too bad.

Bigger question is now concerning Pietrangelo and Parayko. Someone has to go in the next year. Which are the Blues willing to move one season after winning the Cup?

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probably Pietrangelo, to the highest bidder.
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He's not signed to a good number or term.
 
Bread Zib Buch
Kreider Chytil KK
Strome Lias Names
Lemmy Howden Fast

Kravstov in AHL to start

Skjei Trouba
Staal Tony
Hajek Fox

What I expect opening night to be
 
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GAGLine said:
35, actually. He still has 1 year left on his current deal.
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its slightly less than what McD got, for the same term. And McD is three years older. Again, no trade protections reported yet, and the cap is going up. I maintain its a team-friendly number.
 
Avery16 said:
its slightly less than what McD got, for the same term. And McD is three years older. Again, no trade protections reported yet, and the cap is going up. I maintain its a team-friendly number.
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It could be. We've seen our share of dmen flounder in their early 30s.
 
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I'm assuming they're planning on keeping Pietrangelo, so basically it means that the Blues are spending $6.5M on a 3rd pairing dman that may or may not be their ppqb. IMO, it's just poor asset management, and CAR has the added benefit of getting both Bokk and not having to worry about that contract being on their books.
 
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Mac n Gs said:
I'm assuming they're planning on keeping Pietrangelo, so basically it means that the Blues are spending $6.5M on a 3rd pairing dman that may or may not be their ppqb. IMO, it's just poor asset management, and CAR has the added benefit of getting both Bokk and not having to worry about that contract being on their books.
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How was Faulk's expiring contract anything for Carolina to worry about? This was a season of Faulk plus his negotiating rights for Bokk, a late 1st round pick. That seems like a good deal for the Blues to me.
 
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