Speculation: Roster Building Thread V (2019/2020)

[Avery16]

 

[Avery16]

Update: full NTC first five seasons, limited NTC final two years. Actual salary final two years: 4.5 million per.

 

[leetch99]

Isles will probably have Ross Johnston in the game tonight since it is the Rangers thus expect Haley to entertain him although he is a bit undersized . Johnston is HUGE....but after his fists not that skilled or fast . Tantalize him be the best way to handle him like Gabriel did from Flyers....OK long as you don't mind getting your ears boxed LOL....Isles have lots of toughness .

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Isles will probably have Ross Johnston in the game tonight since it is the Rangers thus expect Haley to entertain him although he is a bit undersized . Johnston is HUGE....but after his fists not that skilled or fast . Tantalize him be the best way to handle him like Gabriel did from Flyers....OK long as you don't mind getting your ears boxed LOL....Isles have lots of toughness .

Johnston is literally just a boxer on skaters.

 

[effen]

worried about the Rangers physicality this year. that lineup is gonna get bodied worse than last years, which got bodied regularly.

wouldnt want to ditch Namestnikov or Strome who can at least sort of throw and absorb hits.

 

[Avery16]

he's only 21, i don't see it impacting his dev or value,
idea would be, like Lias last year, he plays big minutes, all situations, while in the A

Del Zotto played 80 NHL games at 19, split the next year between NHL<>AHL
JT Miller split his age 19, 20 and 21 seasons

I think you guys way over-dramatize idea of a 21 year old spending a few months in the A
we just see things differently

LGR

Unless we make a side deal with Seattle, we stand to lose one of Hajek, Lindgren, Howden or Lemieux. And that's assuming we've already traded off Buchnevich and Skjei. Choices have to be made, or Seattle will make them for us and we'll have nothing to show for it.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

worried about the Rangers physicality this year. that lineup is gonna get bodied worse than last years, which got bodied regularly.

wouldnt want to ditch Namestnikov or Strome who can at least sort of throw and absorb hits.

they’re plenty big in the top 6 who will get most of the minutes anyway

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

Unless we make a side deal with Seattle, we stand to lose one of Hajek, Lindgren, Howden or Lemieux. And that's assuming we've already traded off Buchnevich and Skjei. Choices have to be made, or Seattle will make them for us and we'll have nothing to show for it.

We’re going to lose someone for nothing anyway. It’s not ideal, but scrambling to get something for player x while still losing player y for nothing may not be the best way around it

 

[cwede]

Unless we make a side deal with Seattle, we stand to lose one of Hajek, Lindgren, Howden or Lemieux. And that's assuming we've already traded off Buchnevich and Skjei. Choices have to be made, or Seattle will make them for us and we'll have nothing to show for it.

How about accept that, yeah, exactly I guy will get taken by Seattle and dont overthink or try to game the system.

I dont buy the drama or urgency some folks are selling

 

[Avery16]

How about accept that, yeah, exactly I guy will get taken by Seattle and dont overthink or try to game the system.

I dont buy the drama or urgency some folks are selling

Which of Skjei, Deangelo, Hajek, Lindgren, Buchnevich, Howden, and Lemieux are you ok with losing for nothing?

 

[Avery16]

We’re going to lose someone for nothing anyway. It’s not ideal, but scrambling to get something for player x while still losing player y for nothing may not be the best way around it

I think leaving the choice to Seattle is just lazy and 100% something that Gorton will not be doing.

 

[howztheglass]

Which of Skjei, Deangelo, Hajek, Lindgren, Buchnevich, Howden, and Lemieux are you ok with losing for nothing?

If I’m Seattle I would take ADA. PP QB and top 4 D-man. Also won’t be to pricy.
But I would rather lose Lindgren or Howden as I think the Rangers can replace them easier.

 

[effen]

Which of Skjei, Deangelo, Hajek, Lindgren, Buchnevich, Howden, and Lemieux are you ok with losing for nothing?

All of them? None of them are top liners in any sense, nor do any of them project to be. 10% chance ADA becomes prime Dan Boyle notwithstanding, I guess.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

I think leaving the choice to Seattle is just lazy and 100% something that Gorton will not be doing.

So he’s going to trade all of them away for expansion exempt players?

 

[Thirty One]

I think leaving the choice to Seattle is just lazy and 100% something that Gorton will not be doing.

That isn't lazy. Gutting the middle of the roster to prevent losing one player from that group for nothing is overreacting to the situation.

 

[Avery16]

The point isn't losing one and moving on. The point is personnel decisions now with Seattle as a factor. Howden and Andersson are both competing for the same spot. They are both also competing for protection against Seattle. It'd be smart to maximize our overall return, move the one with less upside while their value is highest. Neither needlessly toiling in Hartford at the expense of their development, one less tough choice to make on the protected roster, and the organization one futures richer than they would be if they do nothing.

 

[cwede]

Which of Skjei, Deangelo, Hajek, Lindgren, Buchnevich, Howden, and Lemieux are you ok with losing for nothing?

Again, I won't overthink,

just have NYR build their best protected list, and let it ride

It's just 1 guy,
the roster and pipeline will withstand it

 

[Avery16]

That isn't lazy. Gutting the middle of the roster to prevent losing one player from that group for nothing is overreacting to the situation.

So he’s going to trade all of them away for expansion exempt players?

It isn't gutting the middle of the roster. Buchnevich's contract is up soon and people here are already calling to trade him. He's probably getting top line minutes over Kakko (who has higher upside) as a possible showcase just in case. If Hajek and Lindgren or Rykov have a meaningful future with this club, it won't be with keeping Skjei, who may or may not be worth the contract he's currently on. Some choices don't have to be made today, but we can't ignore Seattle when making personnel decisions now.

 

[effen]

I completely disagree and think the Rangers can completely ignore Seattle.

there's an existing glut of forwards and a coming MASSIVE glut of defensemen

 

[Avery16]

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

The point isn't losing one and moving on. The point is personnel decisions now with Seattle as a factor. Howden and Andersson are both competing for the same spot. They are both also competing for protection against Seattle. It'd be smart to maximize our overall return, move the one with less upside while their value is highest. Neither needlessly toiling in Hartford at the expense of their development, one less tough choice to make on the protected roster, and the organization one futures richer than they would be if they do nothing.

They’re going to need to make decisions like that with a lot of players even if Seattle wasn’t getting a team. The Rangers have set themselves up for expansion better than a good amount of teams and should be able to keep their top 7 forwards top 3 defensemen and both Georgiev and Shesterkin (if they’re both still here by then) plus a bunch of prospects who will be exempt. They might lose someone better than Lindberg this time, but they’ll still only be losing a player from the bottom half of the roster

 

[EpicDing]

So if we end up with Kreider-Chytil-Kakko on the 2nd line, they need to be called the KFC line.

Kaapo-Filip-Chris

Plus, the wings are the best part.

It works on so many levels.

 

[Leetch3]

The point isn't losing one and moving on. The point is personnel decisions now with Seattle as a factor. Howden and Andersson are both competing for the same spot. They are both also competing for protection against Seattle. It'd be smart to maximize our overall return, move the one with less upside while their value is highest. Neither needlessly toiling in Hartford at the expense of their development, one less tough choice to make on the protected roster, and the organization one futures richer than they would be if they do nothing.

why not just protect both? most likely at least 1 of buch & kreider will be gone so your 7 forwards protected are zibanejad, panarin, chytil, anderson, howden, kreider/buch, & lemieux...are we trading howden or andersson so we can keep mckegg?

 

[Avery16]

why not just protect both? most likely at least 1 of buch & kreider will be gone so your 7 forwards protected are zibanejad, panarin, chytil, anderson, howden, kreider/buch, & lemieux...are we trading howden or andersson so we can keep mckegg?

If you protect 7 forwards, it can only be 3 D. Trouba has to be protected, so two of Skjei/ADA/Hajek/Lindgren.

 

[Leetch3]

If you protect 7 forwards, it can only be 3 D. Trouba has to be protected, so two of Skjei/ADA/Hajek/Lindgren.

yeah that creates a potential issue on the blueline has nothing to do with andersson or howden. the options are 7/3/1 or 8/1. so to protect a 4th dman you'd need to expose 3 more forward so that makes no sense

we've got a ton of D men...if you lose one it will suck but not the end of the world...pretty much all the teams that made deals to avoid losing guys to vegas ended up making bad deals.