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RGY said:
I am kinda shocked Vancouver gave him this deal. What leverage did he really have?
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Walking to ufa at the end of the year and getting a bigger contract than kadri bc he's still younger and the league would be one year closer to the cap going up. Vancouver tried to make a deep trade market for miller but nothing came together the way they wanted. It's very interesting seeing Hughes and alvine to this point. I really like what Hughes has actually done and as for alvine I keep hearing him talk the talk but he isn't getting anywhere w the significant changes he and Rutherford talked about. Also for all the talk about van needing to blowup the locker room it sure seems like they are coming back with a lot of the same pieces at this point. It's just a very weird scenario out there bc it seems like nothing they talked about doing 4 months ago is happening.
 
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alkurtz said:
Why is it not ideal? Hartford is a city; hey it once had an NHL team. Over the years, I went to Hartford many times for games and concerts. Can you cite one instance where having a team there hurt the Rangers on the ice? A little bit of space might be a good thing, allowing players to develop without the constant scrutiny of having the big club right next door. Over the years, I know Ranger management was a bit unhappy with Hartford, but I think that stemmed from economic reasons, and, I guess about 10 years ago the Rangers did look seriously at other places. But that wasn't because of Hartford as a place to live or play. Honestly, I think having a team as close as Hartford, with their own identity, has been a net positive. Having lived in NYC as well as the northern suburbs hard on the Connecticut border, I don't really think of Hartford as being a world apart. It does straddle that line between NY fans and Boston fans. There are a lot of Ranger fans in CT.
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I honestly don't know what people expect a minor league city to be. Has anybody bothered to check out the other AHL cities? None of them are really hot spots of the world.
 
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Bruner4329 said:
I honestly don't know what people expect a minor league city to be. Has anybody bothered to check out the other AHL cities? None of them are really hot spots of the world.
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Toronto, San Jose, San Diego are all pretty significant.

I'm also just making conversation as I think Hartford's location has exactly zero to do with prospects asking out. They make only like 90-100k in the AHL and close to a million on an NHL roster, which is the difference.

You move our AHL affiliate to long island and all of a sudden your prospects are making median wage.
 
Vitto79 said:
If NYR can get Mysak he’s a cheap Chytil replacement on next years cap
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...How, exactly? At age 20, Mysak was barely a ppg player in the OHL. Chytil was ppg in the AHL at the same age. Chytil just played his best hockey in a playoff run that literally would have ended at least a round earlier without his contributions, and people on here are still eager to show him the door and replace him with magic beans. Elite Prospects doesn't even have Mysak in Montreal's top 25 prospects.
 
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smoneil said:
...How, exactly? At age 20, Mysak was barely a ppg player in the OHL. Chytil was ppg in the AHL at the same age. Chytil just played his best hockey in a playoff run that literally would have ended at least a round earlier without his contributions, and people on here are still eager to show him the door and replace him with magic beans. Elite Prospects doesn't even have Mysak in Montreal's top 25 prospects.
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Mysak is one of those prospect names people remember from his draft year. And so, he's got name value. Now, he's not a terrible hockey player and he just captained the Czechia team. But his goals, even at the WJC level, are the dirty kind. Not of the skilled variety where he shows elusiveness, vision or silky mitts. He's a decent player and he may have an AHL or NHL career. But people are overrating him as a prospect for sure. And if it's all we get for Nils it'll be poor asset management in my opinion. I think I'd sooner settle for Montreal's 2nd round pick in 2023 and maybe another pick before Mysak and a pick. If we're targeting a center in this deal I want his ceiling to be middle 6 six center. Not bottom six center. I feel Mysak is at best that latter. That said, i don't hate him as a prospect. He's got value. Just not equivalent to a potential top 4 D who may run a PP in the future.
 
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Those aren’t boo’s Joe, their saying…
This many days until opening night:
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smoneil said:
...How, exactly? At age 20, Mysak was barely a ppg player in the OHL. Chytil was ppg in the AHL at the same age. Chytil just played his best hockey in a playoff run that literally would have ended at least a round earlier without his contributions, and people on here are still eager to show him the door and replace him with magic beans. Elite Prospects doesn't even have Mysak in Montreal's top 25 prospects.
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Let’s see how he does in the AHL this year but Chytil is likely a goner regardless W the cap

Laf and Miller are getting bridge deal raises
 
Glen Sathers Cigar said:
Randomly watched some Trocheck highlights today, I’m really excited to see him replace Strome. I feel like his style of play is going to be a major upgrade in that slot. He has a great motor and a solid nose for the net and he seems like he’s able to shoot the puck into an open net without shitting his pants.
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He really completes the center depth chart. Mika-Trocheck-Chytil-Goodrow is very solid, and I think all 4 guys should PK this year, especially if Filip can improve on faceoffs
 
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Vitto79 said:
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Let’s see how he does in the AHL this year but Chytil is likely a goner regardless W the cap

Laf and Miller are getting bridge deal raises
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I think they can make Chytil work with the amount of ELC wingers coming up this year and next. I think he’s more likely to stick around long term than Kakko or kravtsov
 
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Glen Sathers Cigar said:
Randomly watched some Trocheck highlights today, I’m really excited to see him replace Strome. I feel like his style of play is going to be a major upgrade in that slot. He has a great motor and a solid nose for the net and he seems like he’s able to shoot the puck into an open net without shitting his pants.
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He does a little bit of everything which is absolutely what you want from a 2nd line center.

That said he'll be under a lot of scrutiny since his contract is what tanked our flexibility this season.

With the exception of a couple 'up' seasons he's been consistently a 50-55 point guy in terms of averages from season to season, so if he can continue to put up those numbers our team will be helped by the areas in which he is superior to Strome.
 
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Fitzy said:
He does a little bit of everything which is absolutely what you want from a 2nd line center.

That said he'll be under a lot of scrutiny since his contract is what tanked our flexibility this season.

With the exception of a couple 'up' seasons he's been consistently a 50-55 point guy in terms of averages from season to season, so if he can continue to put up those numbers our team will be helped by the areas in which he is superior to Strome.
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He’s also never played with anyone as good as Panarin. So could easily see him push into the 60-70 point range
 
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Savant said:
Gagner in Winnipeg. Rask is useless. Would be trying to bring in vet LHD next. Preferably de Haan but he prob isn’t taking a PTO
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speaking of PTO, Sonny Milano is available. He would add more speed which the Rangers can use especially up front.


Milano and DeHann would be good options for PTO. Rangers need more defensive physical types that can skate wel. De Haan is underrated.
 
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Vitto79 said:
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Let’s see how he does in the AHL this year but Chytil is likely a goner regardless W the cap

Laf and Miller are getting bridge deal raises
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I disagree about Chytil. If he has a modest improvement, I can see them doing what they did with ADA a while back (ie: offering him the same cap number he has now on a 1-year extension because of the cap crunch). If he explodes, I could see them looking to move Kreider (especially if Kreider comes back down to earth). I just don't see how we will get a middle-six center as good as Chytil for less cap than Chytil.

I also think, particularly for someone with his combination of youth and mediocre-ish production, that it would be a huge mistake to pencil someone like Mysak into that 3rd line center spot. How is Mysak any better than the options we already have in our own system? He looks a lot like Montreal's version of Ryder Korczak to me, and I wouldn't be ready to throw Korczak onto the 3rd line right now.
 
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smoneil said:
I disagree about Chytil. If he has a modest improvement, I can see them doing what they did with ADA a while back (ie: offering him the same cap number he has now on a 1-year extension because of the cap crunch). If he explodes, I could see them looking to move Kreider (especially if Kreider comes back down to earth). I just don't see how we will get a middle-six center as good as Chytil for less cap than Chytil.

I also think, particularly for someone with his combination of youth and mediocre-ish production, that it would be a huge mistake to pencil someone like Mysak into that 3rd line center spot. How is Mysak any better than the options we already have in our own system? He looks a lot like Montreal's version of Ryder Korczak to me, and I wouldn't be ready to throw Korczak onto the 3rd line right now.
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If Chytil breaks out that would be huge for us and I'd do what I could to keep him.
 
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RangersFan1994 said:
speaking of PTO, Sonny Milano is available. He would add more speed which the Rangers can use especially up front.


Milano and DeHann would be good options for PTO. Rangers need more defensive physical types that can skate wel. De Haan is underrated.
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Well no one wanted DeHaan as a rental and now as a ufa so he’s likely overrated honestly
 
Yeah Steve Kampfer was like a #8 so I don't even know how bad that makes Tinordi.

Slightly more passable John Scott
 
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