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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: (still) No Quinn In NY Edition

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LOFIN said:
I'm not here to shit on Hartford, but would it be beneficial for the organization to have the AHL team closer to NY? Yes. It would be better for the players, and better for the organization as a whole.
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I don’t think the issue is in Hartford. Rangers sped up their rebuild which effects their prospects from making the NHL since they added free agents. On top of Miller and Schneider showing they belong in the NHL. It has squeezed prospects like Lundkvist out of a spot on the roster.

I also don’t think he has good as some people are claiming or he would have easily beaten someone out of a spot.
 
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Really, Hartford is not all that far from NYC. How many times have we, after a game day skate, decided we needed a player from Hartford, and had that player in uniform that night? I would think that it is quite a few.. Traffic on I-95 generally flows the other way (away from NYC) in the afternoon anyway,
Doesn't MSG own the arena in Hartford anyway (at least I thought it did a few years ago)? In many ways, having our AHL team in Hartford is ideal, although, again I could be wrong, there was some talk about the team moving to Albany. That arena no longer hosts an AHL team.
 
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LOFIN said:
He might be a one trick pony, but still a better player than Tkachuk. Not even particularly close either. Tkachuk to Laine is like Kreider to Panarin. Except Kreider is closer to Panarin than Tkachuk is to Laine.
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We are light years apart on this one with no chance of bridging the gap. Personally I take Matthew Tkachuk on my team any day over Laine & so would 99.9% of GMs around the NHL. If Laine isn't scoring on his one-timer he literally does nothing else. Tkachuk is involved on every shift & is a unicorn in today's game. Tkachuk is exactly what this Ranger team ( & a bunch of others) is missing actually.
 
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Boris Zubov said:
We are light years apart on this one with no chance of bridging the gap. Personally I take Matthew Tkachuk on my team any day over Laine & so would 99.9% of GMs around the NHL. If Laine isn't scoring on his one-timer he literally does nothing else. Tkachuk is involved on every shift & is a unicorn in today's game. Tkachuk is exactly what this Ranger team ( a bunch of others) is missing actually.
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I absolutely would also take Tkachuk over Laine on this NYR team. Doesn't make him better than Laine though.
 
The Crypto Guy said:
During the season. Heck even most of us here were discussing it throughout most of the year that one of our defense prospects had to be traded.
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I mean they obviously still thought there was value to salvage there. But traded for whom? They obviously would have been selling low on a player they supposedly liked. Don’t think they would have thought he’d request a trade like that
 
Nils also was injured (shoulder or neck I think is what someone said) so he wasn't even playing in Hartford the end of the season. He was absent as a Taxi Squad/reserve for the postseason run.
 
McRanger92 said:
See ya Nils, I'll never forget our 3 months together.

5 first rounders in 2017 & 2018 and 3 (Lias/Kravtsov/Lundkvist) have basically turned into fairy dust. The Bobrov Special.

At least K'Andre looks like a stud and Chytil is carving out a role in the middle 6.
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This is not true, This isn't Phil Esposito running the Rangers.

Lias turned into Cullye who may very well be a better player then Lias and is just starting his ELC.

Kravstov is here and will compete. If he's good, he'll be here at least the next 3-4 years. If he struggles, he's still an asset. Remember that under the old NHL, he's actually be right on time based on when rookies joined teams prior to the accelerated post 2012-13 lockout rate.

Lundkvist is still signed for two more years. He can go home and play Swedish Beer League, maybe the SEL if the Rangers want to help him, or get traded soon. He's going to be part of a package.
 
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The Crypto Guy said:
During the season. Heck even most of us here were discussing it throughout most of the year that one of our defense prospects had to be traded.
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That's not a smart way to run your pipeline. You let the season play out and keep the one you like better in NHL action, not make a guess for the sake of 25% more "value".

Trading him "early" has a lot of hindsight bias.
 
effen said:
That's not a smart way to run your pipeline. You let the season play out and keep the one you like better in NHL action, not make a guess for the sake of 25% more "value".

Trading him "early" has a lot of hindsight bias.
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The season did play out, and Schneider took the spot and ran with it. We knew that by the trade deadline and certainly by the draft.
 
The Crypto Guy said:
The season did play out, and Schneider took the spot and ran with it. We knew that by the trade deadline and certainly by the draft.
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Sure, so now's the time from NYR perspective, but other teams have the same concerns the Rangers did when they sent him down.

If he had 40 good NHL games and got hurt he'd be worth twice the price he ended up at. All in the range of possibilities. If that happened Drury is a genius to let him increase his value like that.
 
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You got this…right?
This many days till opening night:
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alkurtz said:
Really, Hartford is not all that far from NYC. How many times have we, after a game day skate, decided we needed a player from Hartford, and had that player in uniform that night? I would think that it is quite a few.. Traffic on I-95 generally flows the other way (away from NYC) in the afternoon anyway,
Doesn't MSG own the arena in Hartford anyway (at least I thought it did a few years ago)? In many ways, having our AHL team in Hartford is ideal, although, again I could be wrong, there was some talk about the team moving to Albany. That arena no longer hosts an AHL team.
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its not far geographically but its a world apart. having the ahl team close enough to make same day callups no issue, at least at home, is ideal. living in hartford for the players is not ideal.
 
2014nyr said:
its not far geographically but its a world apart. having the ahl team close enough to make same day callups no issue, at least at home, is ideal. living in hartford for the players is not ideal.
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Why is it not ideal? Hartford is a city; hey it once had an NHL team. Over the years, I went to Hartford many times for games and concerts. Can you cite one instance where having a team there hurt the Rangers on the ice? A little bit of space might be a good thing, allowing players to develop without the constant scrutiny of having the big club right next door. Over the years, I know Ranger management was a bit unhappy with Hartford, but I think that stemmed from economic reasons, and, I guess about 10 years ago the Rangers did look seriously at other places. But that wasn't because of Hartford as a place to live or play. Honestly, I think having a team as close as Hartford, with their own identity, has been a net positive. Having lived in NYC as well as the northern suburbs hard on the Connecticut border, I don't really think of Hartford as being a world apart. It does straddle that line between NY fans and Boston fans. There are a lot of Ranger fans in CT.
 
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alkurtz said:
Why is it not ideal? Hartford is a city; hey it once had an NHL team. Over the years, I went to Hartford many times for games and concerts. Can you cite one instance where having a team there hurt the Rangers on the ice? A little bit of space might be a good thing, allowing players to develop without the constant scrutiny of having the big club right next door. Over the years, I know Ranger management was a bit unhappy with Hartford, but I think that stemmed from economic reasons, and, I guess about 10 years ago the Rangers did look seriously at other places. But that wasn't because of Hartford as a place to live or play. Honestly, I think having a team as close as Hartford, with their own identity, has been a net positive. Having lived in NYC as well as the northern suburbs hard on the Connecticut border, I don't really think of Hartford as being a world apart. It does straddle that line between NY fans and Boston fans. There are a lot of Ranger fans in CT.
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its just a crappy area for the most part. most players arent big fans either. basically not a great city, and lot of guys in the ahl are young and the nightlife of nyc vs hartford is a world apart. i dont have any issue with it being ahl home though
 
SA16 said:
The fault for the Lundkvist situation largely lies with Gerard Gallant. Many people on these boards recognized that Nils should have been anchoring PP1 with Fox in a PP2 role. It would have let him play to his strengths while giving Fox a breather. Fox could then be deployed in the importsnt 5v5 minutes and his overall minutes kept down to keep him healthy during the season. At the same time it would have given Lundkvist the confidence that he can perform at the NHL level. Why didn’t Gallant recognize this?
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I’m assuming this is comedy? Fox to PP2?
 
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