Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXXXI

[TheDirtyH]

NHL Ranks
Last 4 seasons - 10th in Even strength points (5th among Centers) -- McDavid, Drai, Matthews, Mack top 4 -- 36 more points than Mika
Last 3 seasons - 10th in Even strength points (5th among Centers) -- McDavid, Drai, Matthews, Mack top 4 -- 27 more points than Mika
Last 2 seasons - 13th in Even srength points (5th among Center) -- McDavid, Drai, Matthews, Mack top 4 -- 17 more points than Mika

So yes, he scores at even strength.

He's a good 5v5 scorer, but the answer to whether he's a good 5v5 player is murkier. I won't dispute the talent, but Schiefle cheats a lot to get his points. Moreover, he gets a boatload of ice time to boot. He's a net negative at even strength.

Plenty of elite scorers are also porous defensively, but they're mostly wingers and they tend to get more than they give up.

Last 4 seasons - 2nd in 5v5 goals against (2nd among Centers) -- McDavid is #1 (With a +34 differential to Schiefle's -4)
Last 3 seasons - 1st in 5v5 goals against (1st among Centers) -- (-6)
Last 2 seasons - 2nd in 5v5 goals against (1st among Centers) -- (-8)

 

[IDvsEGO]

also add someone like scheifele to our top 6 that line wont have to play defense because they'll be in the offensive zone so much.

 

[gravey9]

also add someone like scheifele to our top 6 that line wont have to play defense because they'll be in the offensive zone so much.

Is this Ken Holland?

 

[TheDirtyH]

also add someone like scheifele to our top 6 that line wont have to play defense because they'll be in the offensive zone so much.

Our top 6 is never in the offensive zone to begin with!

 

[nyaz11]

He's a good 5v5 scorer, but the answer to whether he's a good 5v5 player is murkier. I won't dispute the talent, but Schiefle cheats a lot to get his points. Moreover, he gets a boatload of ice time to boot. He's a net negative at even strength.

Plenty of elite scorers are also porous defensively, but they're mostly wingers and they tend to get more than they give up.

Last 4 seasons - 2nd in 5v5 goals against (2nd among Centers) -- McDavid is #1 (With a +34 differential to Schiefle's -4)
Last 3 seasons - 1st in 5v5 goals against (1st among Centers) -- (-6)
Last 2 seasons - 2nd in 5v5 goals against (1st among Centers) -- (-8)

This is the one concern I can get behind - but I think the Rangers are in a position to solve parts of it.

A. His contract is an absolute steal. He's putting up Mika points - essentially at a minimum.. for cheaper than Kreider...
B. He is not coming here to be the man - like he is for arguments sake as the no doubt 1 C in WPG during their prime years. If you get him you have 2 options - you find solid defense first checking line players to pair with Goodrow on your 3rd line, or you use Mika/Kreider as your matchup lines.

 

[JMan74]

Rackell + Hampus Lindholm?

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Rangers General Manager Chris Drury has been patiently waiting for a track to explode on and teams to announce themselves as buyers or sellers. As we inch closer to the March 21st trade deadline, the Anaheim Ducks are getting close to officially announcing themselves as sellers. New York is...

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[TheDirtyH]

that's rough for two rentals, but I don't hate it

 

[Tob]

I don't like Mark Scheifele's face

 

[mike14]

Do people have a hard time spelling Rakell?

*Raquel

 

[Tob]

Deep down inside I'm pondering on the idea or possibility that Chris Drury is as much of a stiff as he's been said to be and he will hold out on his offers, not up his offers, and end up with a whole bag of nothing when the bell chimes. First year GM, first time at the helm nearing deadline, I think with his personality it's a possibility.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Not interested in trading Lundkvist for a rental

 

[Tob]

Not interested in trading Lundkvist for a rental

what is your picture of

 

[Savant]

Bottom 6 would be unwatchable without Chytil. Give him time

Bottom six is unwatchable with Chytil. He doesn’t do anything.

 

[Kocur26]

 

[Kocur26]

I don't like Mark Scheifele's face

Agreed

 

[DanielBrassard]

It's real

 

[Rangers in 7]

Zegras for hank and nils lundqvist/lundkvist

 

[DanielBrassard]

what is your picture of

An Asian man, problem?

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

that's rough for two rentals, but I don't hate it

Yeah, that's tough to give up for two rentals - I'd like that deal if one of them had another year on their deal. But overall that's not "terrible" if it happened and would definitely make the current team better at least.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

Lundqvist going for a pure rental would be tough to stomach

 

[mike14]

Rackell + Hampus Lindholm?

Report: Could Drury's first trade be a Blockbuster? NYR and ANA trade talks ramping up | Inside The Rink

Rangers General Manager Chris Drury has been patiently waiting for a track to explode on and teams to announce themselves as buyers or sellers. As we inch closer to the March 21st trade deadline, the Anaheim Ducks are getting close to officially announcing themselves as sellers. New York is...

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A lot of this hinges on the unnamed other roster player (Chytil? would they want Gauthier?), but that seems quite steep for two rentals. Even moving out Nemeth and Chytil's cap hits I can't see how we could afford an extended Lindholm, and even Rackell's likely extension would take most of our remaining room while still leaving us short on a #2 centre

 

[Tob]

An Asian man, problem?

mergggh

 

[Kords]

There's no way the Ducks say no to that package, that would be a steal for them. Perfect team and head coach for a player like Kravtsov. Him and Zegras could be pretty exciting to watch on a line. Ditto with Lundqvist.

I'm not against going for it if those two are the best available, but man could this really blow up in Drury's face if they come here and don't succeed and we get bounced in the first round anyway. Especially if it costs all that PLUS roster players? Nemeth for the cap dump is fine I guess, but who else? Also signing Nemeth just to need to shed his cap is certainly a bad look in and of itself.

Hoping Drury knocks the TDL out of the park, but i'm nervous....

 

[Tob]

Krav and Nils have to be for cost controlled futures. They ARE cost controlled roster players on ELC and many years of RFA. It's not unreasonable to acquire a cost controlled roster player for Krav/Nils. Likely not going to get a top 6 player at this juncture for Krav but a cost controlled 3rd liner player who may still have more to give should be the goal. I'm okay with holding onto them for summer deals, or hell, even using them when we have depth issues. Last thing we can afford to do is to ship them for a rental like everyone has said.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Rackell + Hampus Lindholm?

Report: Could Drury's first trade be a Blockbuster? NYR and ANA trade talks ramping up | Inside The Rink

Rangers General Manager Chris Drury has been patiently waiting for a track to explode on and teams to announce themselves as buyers or sellers. As we inch closer to the March 21st trade deadline, the Anaheim Ducks are getting close to officially announcing themselves as sellers. New York is...

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This trade proposal actually includes "player to be named." Like, he wrote that in there.

Whoever wrote this is absolutely f***ed in the head.

Edit: Just checked, they guy who wrote that is actually a Rangers fan? What the hell?

Hey, guy who wrote that, I know you lurk here, get a new hobby, you're bad at this one.