Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXXXI

[leetch99]

We're up against the cap. $2M is 1.2M more than Brodz. I still think he gets a Nemeth type contract from a bad team

We're in penny pinching mode.

That's why Gauthier likely sticks around for a couple of more years...big and fast & CHEAP if we give him the RFA raise on a 3 yr deal, average out under a million ... and he can keep up on a line if we have injuries in our top 9 if need be . He likely won't score but if they can train a dog to go to the fridge and get beer...they should be able to train him to go to the corner or the crease.....maybe we need to hire Caesar what's his name LOL...Barron might also be a good 4th line C if he is fast enough ? He has the size for sure . Reaves and Cuylee for the 4th line muscle split on games next season .

 

[leetch99]

Hilarious Leafs signed Petr Mrazek to a 3X3.8M deal. Horrible. They will have to move him to Arizona now. 10 team NTC too. Now that Campbell has shown he's nothing special, do they give him that 3X$5.15 contract? That's $9M for 2 really average goalies. Might as well keep Mrazek and let Campbell walk and acquire Georgiev who can be signed for 2X$<2M with his numbers being what they are

Any team that wants Georgiev would have to have a seriously flawed scouting staff . He is hot garbage . Has there ever been a demand for him or were the NY fans just dreaming . We have had much better back ups and got manure for them . The guy is worthless and we may as well just let him walk or else trade hm to Leafs and they pay half of Mzarek ? and throw in Engvall ? Just throwing a couple of names out there . Engvall could be a decent 3rd -4th liner and inexpensive . Can play C and any forward spot and is an RFA .

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Wonder if we could get the francais canadiens to take Gauthier and a 3rd (maybe a 2nd) for Lehkonen? Does Chytil for a signed Lehkonen work?

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Any team that wants Georgiev would have to have a seriously flawed scouting staff . He is hot garbage . Has there ever been a demand for him or were the NY fans just dreaming . We have had much better back ups and got manure for them . The guy is worthless and we may as well just let him walk or else trade hm to Leafs and they pay half of Mzarek ? and throw in Engvall ? Just throwing a couple of names out there . Engvall could be a decent 3rd -4th liner and inexpensive . Can play C and any forward spot and is an RFA .

Georgiev has proven he can play when he's not sitting on the bench for long stretches. He's not good as a back up so i dont known where that leaves him Edmonton would be best for him imo but they'd have to give him a week of starts to get going.

 

[GAGLine]

Georgiev has proven he can play when he's not sitting on the bench for long stretches. He's not good as a back up so i dont known where that leaves him Edmonton would be best for him imo but they'd have to give him a week of starts to get going.

Yeah, which is why I don't see a team taking a chance on him until the offseason. Maybe a team that isn't a contender and needs a goalie, would trade for him now to see if he can be the guy down the stretch, but no contender is going to risk it.

If he isn't traded by the draft, I bet we don't qualify him and he signs somewhere else as a UFA.

 

[leetch99]

Wonder if we could get the francais canadiens to take Gauthier and a 3rd (maybe a 2nd) for Lehkonen? Does Chytil for a signed Lehkonen work?

I don't see the fascination for Lehkonen . What does he do for us ? Do we win the Cup this season with him ? Can we afford him next season ? We have Breadman-Kreider-Blais-Othmann-Cuylee on the left side and don't forget we also have Laf playing his wrong wing at the moment . Can Lehkonen play the right side...if not I see him as useless for us now and long term . We need a RW on the 3rd line more than a Lehkonen . We already have Blais and Goodrow likely pegged as 3rd liners next season for us and likely plenty of in house guys that would suffice for the time being until we fix the 2 C spot . The Lehkonen's will always be around for obtaining in the future if we need the . Fix the 2C hole for next season before we send away a 1st round pick .

 

[JimmyG89]

Obviously Kessel has a family of his own, with a new kid, but you wonder if something that may interest him is being in NY with his sister, especially if it is for just the rest of the way.

Amanda already does work with the Rangers for youth hockey. They know if he already wants to play on the Rangers. If he does, I wonder if there is a cheap deal for the following season in there.

Even beyond this season, the Rangers could use his services. Nothing more than 1 year, but if that interests Kessel, it'd give them some assurance they have a 3RW on the roster, probably on a team friendly deal.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

It’s not like they arguing over a deal. The Coyotes would gladly ship Kessel out for a 4th or 5th. If the Rangers take his whole cap hit (easy to do) It then frees the Coyotes to be the third team in another salary retention deal.

Kessel and a 3rd for a 5th. Do it Drury!

 

[Kocur26]

Agreed

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I don't see the fascination for Lehkonen . What does he do for us ? Do we win the Cup this season with him ? Can we afford him next season ? We have Breadman-Kreider-Blais-Othmann-Cuylee on the left side and don't forget we also have Laf playing his wrong wing at the moment . Can Lehkonen play the right side...if not I see him as useless for us now and long term . We need a RW on the 3rd line more than a Lehkonen . We already have Blais and Goodrow likely pegged as 3rd liners next season for us and likely plenty of in house guys that would suffice for the time being until we fix the 2 C spot . The Lehkonen's will always be around for obtaining in the future if we need the . Fix the 2C hole for next season before we send away a 1st round pick .

Lehkonen can play both sides though

And the LW depth you highlighted, Kreider and Panarin are legit obviously but the rest are all unknowns

Blais has gotten injured in debilitating fashion every season he’s been in the league, there is no way they should be relying on him going into next year. And Othmaan and Culye are years out, if they ever get here at all

 

[Paulie Walnutz]

Would the Ducks move Henrique and eat 50% for 2 more years after this season? That leaves him as the Rangers 3C making 2.91 mill and he would be perfect with Goodrow on a checking line. Has 14 goals 14 assists this year. 57% on face offs this year too.

 

[Dr. Ogrodnick]

Can we trade this new board format back to its old team?

 

[GAGLine]

Would the Ducks move Henrique and eat 50% for 2 more years after this season? That leaves him as the Rangers 3C making 2.91 mill and he would be perfect with Goodrow on a checking line. Has 14 goals 14 assists this year.

Who is our 2C in this scenario?

 

[Paulie Walnutz]

Who is our 2C in this scenario?

Whoever comes back in a package for one this summer.

 

[NYR Viper]

I don't see the fascination for Lehkonen . What does he do for us ? Do we win the Cup this season with him ? Can we afford him next season ? We have Breadman-Kreider-Blais-Othmann-Cuylee on the left side and don't forget we also have Laf playing his wrong wing at the moment . Can Lehkonen play the right side...if not I see him as useless for us now and long term . We need a RW on the 3rd line more than a Lehkonen . We already have Blais and Goodrow likely pegged as 3rd liners next season for us and likely plenty of in house guys that would suffice for the time being until we fix the 2 C spot . The Lehkonen's will always be around for obtaining in the future if we need the . Fix the 2C hole for next season before we send away a 1st round pick .

His versatility and playing style are exactly what this team needs more of. He’s physical, but not overtly so, he’s a very good defensive winger, he plays in the hard areas very well and he has already proven to be able to take the tough matchups and help drive play for his team. All while putting up a respectable 30-35 points.

He’s the ideal candidate as a Swiss-army knife on a team full of skilled players. I’ve compared him to Ruslan Fedotenko with the way he plays. Fedotenko was a very effective NHLer

 

[surlysailor]

It’s not like they arguing over a deal. The Coyotes would gladly ship Kessel out for a 4th or 5th. If the Rangers take his whole cap hit (easy to do) It then frees the Coyotes to be the third team in another salary retention deal.

Any chance NYR are trying to ship Nemeth back to Arz? They need contracts for next season. Tho Arz might be on his NT list. I always thought Kessel (full price) & Larsson for Nemeth & a 3rd and a guy like Gettinger might be a fair deal.

 

[JimmyG89]

Any chance NYR are trying to ship Nemeth back to Arz? They need contracts for next season. Tho Arz might be on his NT list. I always thought Kessel (full price) & Larsson for Nemeth & a 3rd and a guy like Gettinger might be a fair deal.

Regardless of shipping out Nemeth, this would be a good move to get both players. Larsson is somewhat of a tweener between a 3rd and 4th liner. Better fit on a 4th line. Plays with an edge. Would be an upgrade to Rooney. He's a player that I target this summer if not acquired at the deadline.

Considering he's been on Buffalo and Arizona, both complete dumpster fire teams, his numbers are pretty good. He's having a career year this season. 1.75 P/60 at 5v5. Would actually put him 4th on the team at that rate, only being behind Panarin, Strome, and Zibanejad. Kessel is at 1.8, so they'd be 4th and 5th on the roster respectively if acquired. Would be a boon for the 3rd and 4th lines.

 

[Savant]

I don't see the fascination for Lehkonen . What does he do for us ? Do we win the Cup this season with him ? Can we afford him next season ? We have Breadman-Kreider-Blais-Othmann-Cuylee on the left side and don't forget we also have Laf playing his wrong wing at the moment . Can Lehkonen play the right side...if not I see him as useless for us now and long term . We need a RW on the 3rd line more than a Lehkonen . We already have Blais and Goodrow likely pegged as 3rd liners next season for us and likely plenty of in house guys that would suffice for the time being until we fix the 2 C spot . The Lehkonen's will always be around for obtaining in the future if we need the . Fix the 2C hole for next season before we send away a 1st round pick .

2C isn’t coming.

Rangers have a third wing RW who is on the injured list. Spoiler alert, it’s Kakko. You acquire Lekhonen to play 3LW with Kakko and I guess Goodrow and that is Gallant’s ‘shutdown’ line. This is how you are currently getting the best out of Kakko, and that is obviously the kind of third line/bottom six that Gallant is trying to set up. Granted, I am not trading a 1st for Lekhonen though. 1st is probably the price to trade him before the 21st though because that’s just how the deadline usually works. Someone might pay a first but I don’t think it will be the Rangers.

The Rangers need a RW but for the Panarin and Strome line. Been over this before but the best choice for that line is a Connor Brown. He is another player who is a big upgrade that isn’t going to break the bank, and you can move up and down the line as necessary.

Two things the Rangers SHOULD NOT do.

1. Shoot the moon for a big salary player. Rangers can’t afford said player. Period.

2. Trade for any Premium (UFA) rentals. Rangers probably can’t afford to resign them and are flushing those assets down the toilet. This team is obviously a year or two ahead of schedule. They need players with term to keep building chemistry and run it back next year and/or pivot if needed.

Rangers biggest need is underpaid NHL level players with term. They have too many ELCs and too much at the top of the food chain. They need to get these AHL guys out and replace them with guys that are under term on lesser contracts. The team needs NHL guys. I’m hoping for two forwards at the deadline and worrying about the major moves (particularly at center) in the offseason.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Give me Domi

 

[Fitzy]

Give me Domi

Perfect. We can get Domi, Bertuzzi, and Sutter and call it the "Son of a bitch" line

 

[Psycho for Perreault]

I wish we could get to see Kakko on line 2 for a little bit before the trading deadline to see what exactly we need.

 

[NYR Viper]

I wish we could get to see Kakko on line 2 for a little bit before the trading deadline to see what exactly we need.

If they get Kessel, they can try both there and see which works better

 

[TheDirtyH]

Last time Kakko was on line two he was on an 8 game scoring streak iirc. The fact that he was taken off the line was a surprise at the time.

 

[Fitzy]

Last time Kakko was on line two he was on an 8 game scoring streak iirc. The fact that he was taken off the line was a surprise at the time.

If he comes back and goes on a tear the morale around here will increase substantially.

 

[TheDirtyH]

If he comes back and goes on a tear the morale around here will increase substantially.

I'm not getting my hopes up