Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXXVII

[rangers1314]

Lindgren is fine and I don't think we have the cap to bring in a big defensman without letting other holes just rot.

Fair enough. Don't disagree just thinking of areas which could be improved on.

I just know the Chychrun talk will pick up again this summer. People forget this guy is literally the same age as Fox (Fox is 6 weeks older).

He's a player that after he gets moved to a legit franchise you might sit back and rue not making a run at. Both he and his contract are really, really good.

 

[huerter]

Bro, you post some wacky shit all the time, but Tyler Johnson? Really?

He'd be a good proxy for Strome, with Panarin and on PP1, at a cheaper price.

 

[Machinehead]

Fair enough. Don't disagree just thinking of areas which could be improved on.

I just know the Chychrun talk will pick up again this summer. People forget this guy is literally the same age as Fox (Fox is 6 weeks older).

He's a player that after he gets moved to a legit franchise you might sit back and rue not making a run at. Both he and his contract are really, really good.

Now that I think about it, you could trade Lindgren for a similarly priced forward, go with Kreidbanejad and the Kid Line as the top six, let Panarin play with whose ever dick he wants to play with on the third line and that's your forward group.

 

[rangers1314]

Now that I think about it, you could trade Lindgren for a similarly priced forward, go with Kreidbanejad and the Kid Line as the top six, let Panarin play with whose ever dick he wants to play with on the third line and that's your forward group.

I don't see Lindgren getting moved, at least not this summer.

I'm not a huge believer in the whole "but what would it do to the room?" stuff when it comes to moving guys...but there could be something there for moving Lindgren now.

Next summer, when he's got 1 year left and it's extension talk time? Yeah, it's possible depending on his ask. We've all had front row seats to how players like him age.

But next season, you could have a situation where he drops to the 3rd pair ES and 1st PK. Let him play with BS.

 

[duhmetreE]

Fantasy Land 1.0 armchair GM, where NMCs do not exist and reality is what you want it to be..... aka what would Bern do?

Trouba for Lundell+Gudas
Panarin for R'OR
Picks+Prospects for Edmundson
Sign Copp
Sign Motte

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Lafreniere R'OR Kravtsov
Kreider Zibs Copp
Goodrow Lundell Kakko
Motte Brodz Hunt/Reaves

Lindgren Fox
KAM Schneider
Edmundson Lundkvist
Gudas

On the way - Othmann, Cuylle, Berard and Robertson - Othmann/Cuylle can slot into the top9, drop Goodrow down and take out Hunt/Reaves.

 

[HANK30]

You understand that he needs to be medically cleared to play right? It's not like they are asking him and he's saying "no".

Also, people need to chillout around here with Blais. Was I asleep when this dude turned into an offensive dynamo? He's a bottom 6 winger. Relax.



He and his agents are going to talk to Boston over the next few weeks prior to the draft. If no deal can be made he will be traded at/around the draft for a major price. That trade will also come with an agreed upon extension with the team acquiring him.

In other words he’s not coming here…

 

[EdJovanovski]

Fantasy Land 1.0 armchair GM, where NMCs do not exist and reality is what you want it to be..... aka what would Bern do?

Trouba for Lundell+Gudas
Panarin for R'OR
Picks+Prospects for Edmundson
Sign Copp
Sign Motte

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Lafreniere R'OR Kravtsov
Kreider Zibs Copp
Goodrow Lundell Kakko
Motte Brodz Hunt/Reaves

Lindgren Fox
KAM Schneider
Edmundson Lundkvist
Gudas

On the way - Othmann, Cuylle, Berard and Robertson - Othmann/Cuylle can slot into the top9, drop Goodrow down and take out Hunt/Reaves.

You get the “love” for Kravtsov on 1st line, not the Buch trade 2.0 with Panarin

 

[QJL]

Fantasy Land 1.0 armchair GM, where NMCs do not exist and reality is what you want it to be..... aka what would Bern do?

Trouba for Lundell+Gudas
Panarin for R'OR
Picks+Prospects for Edmundson
Sign Copp
Sign Motte

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Lafreniere R'OR Kravtsov
Kreider Zibs Copp
Goodrow Lundell Kakko
Motte Brodz Hunt/Reaves

Lindgren Fox
KAM Schneider
Edmundson Lundkvist
Gudas

On the way - Othmann, Cuylle, Berard and Robertson - Othmann/Cuylle can slot into the top9, drop Goodrow down and take out Hunt/Reaves.

You’re going to need no salary cap along with no NMC. Florida fitting 8m Trouba in? Not happening.

 

[17futurecap]

Could see Trouba more realistic to Florida next summer.

Yandle buyout number goes down big
Will they move Bob at 50% at some point to save five million?

Could take last year of Duclair’s contract to save them money.

For Trouba, no state tax on his last 20 million owed to him in over half his games played every year.

His wife did some of her studies in South Florida, so probably would have good connections down there.

Living on the beach on off days.

 

[McRanger92]

Could see Trouba more realistic to Florida next summer.

Yandle buyout number goes down big
Will they move Bob at 50% at some point to save five million?

Could take last year of Duclair’s contract to save them money.

For Trouba, no state tax on his last 20 million owed to him in over half his games played every year.

His wife did some of her studies in South Florida, so probably would have good connections down there.

Living on the beach on off days.

Nice thought because Trouba has some connections to south Florida and theirs no state income tax, but that team doesnt have the space to fit him and it seems their priority is Giroux. Panthers could use a defenseman who can actually defend though.

 

[bleedblue94]

I am not inherently against the idea of moving Panarin but the main benefit can't be the cap space like it would be with moving Trouba. You might get picks or prospects also if you can talk Trouba into waiving, but it's not going to be a massive haul.

With Panarin, I might be open to it, but you also need a massive haul back.

Like, two firsts, a young top 6 C prospect, and another piece.

We were offering something like Strome or Buch, a first, a defensive prospect, and Chytil for Eichel. It would have to be like that.

I don't know that I want the NHL ready piece, because we have prospects and young players ready to take the wing spot Panarin's departure would open up.

So I'll take two firsts and a highly regarded Lundell-level center prospect and maybe a throw-in.

I don't necessarily hate it. I've long maintained we cut off the rebuild too early in regards to our forward depth. This would finish it off.

Panarin is a huge cost, but, he's also 30.

I don't really believe this team is going to win a Cup or Cups as we are seeing right this moment. If you could get a 3-for-1 to finalize your future forward core, I'm listening.

The savings allow you to lock up Kakko, Chytil, Miller and Laf, and also keep Copp, Motte, Vatrano, etc.

You're on drugs if you think someone is trading you two 1sts and a young top 6 center AND another piece for a soon to be 31 year old one dimensional winger that won't go to the middle of the ice who also has an 11.6aav and would control IF a trade could happen with his nmc. Come on...

 

[Synergy27]

Because the idea of the letter and the rebuild was to construct a long term contender, and if you toss that out the window to accomodate the peaks of a couple thirty year olds that's a bad idea.

You have a long term core of Shesterkin, Fox, Lafreniere, Kakko, Chytil, Kravtsov, Othmann, Miller, Jones, Robertson, Lundkvist, etc, etc.

You still need a center or two for THAT group. It needs to be similarly aged to grow with them. It only gets harder to find those guys later and you can't count on plucking one out of free agency later as you are going to be cash strapped.



That's an overpay but I like your thought process.

The cap space for this team is going to be allocated to Fox, Zib, Shesterkin, and likely Laf moving forward. Maybe/hopefully Kakko as well.

We just need to keep plugging guys into the bottom 9 C roles to enable those guys. If we draft or trade for another young player that turns out to be a top liner, we won’t be able to afford him.

 

[failure]

Also, people need to chillout around here with Blais. Was I asleep when this dude turned into an offensive dynamo? He's a bottom 6 winger. Relax.

He's also never played a full season in his entire career. 40 games max ever in the NHL. Why sign him?

 

[Taluss]

Would love to see Rangers make some calls for Dach. Apparently the Hawks will be taking calls…

 

[BBKers]

Panarin - Zib - Kreider
Laf - Dach - Kaako
Kravtsov - Goodrow - Blais
Othmann/Cuylle - Derek Grant - Motte
EF: Reaves, Paquette (UFA)

Miller - Fox
Chychrun (retained) - Trouba
Lindgren - Schneider
ED: Braun or some Oger

Igor
Backup: Cheap vet (Jones, Halak, Greiss…)

This is a nasty team
Bring in a couple vet pieces at next years TDL to deepen the roster

 

[Nickmo82]

Why do people keep coming up with lineups without Chytil? Are we just assuming he's going to be dealt?

 

[Ola]

And Russia is a shit show with even personal assets not secure with a madman running the country into the ground. USA safest haven in the world.

I think you are selling a country that has Buch a little short here.

 

[haohmaru]

If Blais doesn't play game 6 I'm not re-signing him. This is the playoffs. Everyone plays hurt. If he's not willing to make that sacrifice then he's not a guy you win with in the future.

So if a guy who basically hasn't played the entire season should come back and play hurt in the most important game of the year? Yeah, I don't think so. Not unless you're out of options.

 

[SA16]

So if a guy who basically hasn't played the entire season should come back and play hurt in the most important game of the year? Yeah, I don't think so. Not unless you're out of options.

Kucherov did it

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Trading Trouba would open up so much cap flexibility and I even like the potential pairings on defense:

Lindgren-Fox
K'Andre-Schneider
Zac Jones-Lundkvist

 

[Fitzy]

We need to find some way to get Lafreniere into the top 6 next season, without forcing him into a RW spot.

He also needs to be Strome's replacement in the bumper spot on PP1.

Chytil has likely earned another year here, though I'd go into next season with him on a line with Goodrow so Barclay can take the important faceoffs.

Laf-Zib-Kreider
Panarin-Copp-Kravtsov
Goodrow-Chytil-Kakko
Blais-Blackwell-Hunt

Reaves


Blackwell moves to the Panarin line in case of injury, or to flex things.

Let Kakko continue to hone his game as a two-way forward on a line that maybe becomes a matchup group.

Also in an ideal world we won't have to buy 4 rentals next trade deadline- so try to go into next season with as much depth as possible.

To previous poster- way too early. Schneider has been playing 9 minutes a game. He isn't close to ready to replace Trouba

 

[IDvsEGO]

We need to find some way to get Lafreniere into the top 6 next season, without forcing him into a RW spot.

He also needs to be Strome's replacement in the bumper spot on PP1.

Chytil has likely earned another year here, though I'd go into next season with him on a line with Goodrow so Barclay can take the important faceoffs.

Laf-Zib-Kreider
Panarin-Copp-Kravtsov
Goodrow-Chytil-Kakko
Blais-Blackwell-Hunt

Reaves


Blackwell moves to the Panarin line in case of injury, or to flex things.

Let Kakko continue to hone his game as a two-way forward on a line that maybe becomes a matchup group.

Also in an ideal world we won't have to buy 4 rentals next trade deadline- so try to go into next season with as much depth as possible.

To previous poster- way too early. Schneider has been playing 9 minutes a game. He isn't close to ready to replace Trouba

So Kakko and Chytil who we want to see break out offensively should be put on a line with Goodrow. Seems logical.

Kucherov did it

Kucherov did nothing of the sort. He had surgery, they expected him to be ready around the start of playoffs. He took his time getting ready, and was activated game 1, not game 6. Blais was expected to be out for the season.

 

[deathb4disco]

We need to find some way to get Lafreniere into the top 6 next season, without forcing him into a RW spot.

He also needs to be Strome's replacement in the bumper spot on PP1.

Chytil has likely earned another year here, though I'd go into next season with him on a line with Goodrow so Barclay can take the important faceoffs.

Laf-Zib-Kreider
Panarin-Copp-Kravtsov
Goodrow-Chytil-Kakko
Blais-Blackwell-Hunt

Reaves


Blackwell moves to the Panarin line in case of injury, or to flex things.

Let Kakko continue to hone his game as a two-way forward on a line that maybe becomes a matchup group.

Also in an ideal world we won't have to buy 4 rentals next trade deadline- so try to go into next season with as much depth as possible.

To previous poster- way too early. Schneider has been playing 9 minutes a game. He isn't close to ready to replace Trouba

Agree 100% except I would like to see a bigger more physical player than Blackwell.

 

[haohmaru]

Kucherov did it

Blais and Kucherov. Got it.

 

[huerter]

Gauthier for Poehling.