And I do not want to sacrifice Motte for a 4C add. There is a decent chunk of players there that we can probably get for the $1-$1.25 range. Maybe even slightly less. Boyle played for $750k last year and was effective for the Penguins. I dont care if people dont like retreads or think its about nostalgia, its not. Its about having depth on the roster while navigating a tough cap.
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They would cost more than Carpenter and Turk coached him before. I prefer Cousins but I feel Carpenter will be a Ranger. I like Larsson but I can see a team overpaying for a depth player like him
Motte is gone. First time as UFA. The way he sounded in press conference when the season ended, sounded like he is gone. ill be shocked if he resigns. I think Vatrano resigns and Copp waits it out until we trade his rights before the draft.
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Ranger fans in the playoffs, the kid line should play more
Ranger fans in the off-season, let's bring in players who will play above them.
Perhaps people think the coach will play a vet below them, yet that is not what happens, especially when it comes to who will play with Panarin.
I am not convinced the kids ultimately will have what it takes, yet I'd gladly bet on them over some UFA vet, at least until the trade deadline.
Ranger fans in the off-season, let's bring in players who will play above them.
Perhaps people think the coach will play a vet below them, yet that is not what happens, especially when it comes to who will play with Panarin.
I am not convinced the kids ultimately will have what it takes, yet I'd gladly bet on them over some UFA vet, at least until the trade deadline.
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The more I think about it the more stastny on a 2 year deal makes sense. Can hop into the top 6 and spell chytil here and there. Plays a solid two way game, provides good center depth, good vet presence and good bridge deal rather than committing 5-6 years to copp or strome
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the problem to me is Stastny doesn't scream New York or even East Coast guy. I just can't see him coming here even if we were to throw dumb money at him
I fear the same with Motte or Copp and it's most likely the reason Braun is gone as well. Rangers have to choose between Strome or Copp and between either Motte or Vatrano and it's going to be a situation where the only guys that stay are those that price themselves in JUST to stay. I really only see Vatrano or Strome doing that. Most guys are going to want to chase some money and get a raise and the Rangers simply can't do it. It's why at the end of the day I think Drury just goes big game hunting for one more piece rather than trying to fumble about and re-sign as many pieces as he can.
don't be surprised if Strome/Copp/Motte all leave to get that pay raise.
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Bellemare is someone else the Rangers should be looking at. Can PK, win a faceoff, and shouldn't be too expensive. Played for Gallant in Vegas as well.
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PLD gonna ride out the next two years in Winnipeg just in time for the Rangers to clear space in 2024 so we can sign him
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Why the Rangers didn't sign him last summer was baffling.
Based on the early projections, there is going to be plenty of opportunity in the top 6. Lafreniere seems most comfortable on his left side and Kreider/Panarin are not going anywhere. Only way Lafreniere moves up is by moving to Center, which I think is a pretty feasible possibility for him. He has the ability to do it and was taking some draws here and there.
If Copp prices out, do you go;
Kreider-Zib-Kakko
Panarin-Lafreniere-Kravtsov
Stastny-Chytil-Blais
Motte-Paul-Goodrow
Consider Patty Kane at the deadline
There are options here.
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Fair enough, former Stanley Cup winner Anze Kopitar will be available as well when he's 37.
If he doesn't tickle your fancy, Aho, Stamkos, Lindholm, Schiefele, Guentzel, Reinhart, and recent HFNYR darling Tyler Johnson will all be UFA's as well.
I rather trade for Dubois or bring back Miller or maybe make a surprise trade for a young center or one in the mid 20 range. Dubois fits the center Rangers need.
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My only issue with this, is it continues a shuttle from Winnipeg to NY that started with Brendan Lemieux, then Jacob Trouba, then Andrew Copp.
While the later two are solid players, the fact no one pointed out is both were on the 2018 Jets squad that had all the tools to win the Cup, but stalled in the WCF to Vegas. They blew out Vegas the first game.
I'm not trashing either play,er only it brings to mind Neil Smith's quote when he was bringing in ex-Oilers for the Cup push. "What am I supposed to do, trade for San Jose Sharks?" is more or less what he responded to the press.
The Rangers had a similar thing with the Minnesota North Starts in the mid 80s-early 90s when you look at their trades. Esposito had a relationship with Lou Nanne.
Dubois is a good player, but does he have the clutch gene? There's definitely something off in Winnipeg after a team that was primed to be a contender from about 2017-2022. The peaked in 2018. Maurice resigns.
PLD is from the Jackets program. Nash was from there as well. The Rangers need guys who can elevate their game in the postseason.
There is no reason to make such a shape shifting move like this. The team just went to the ECF with an extremely young and inexperienced team. They are only going to get better. We are approaching the point where we will just need to fill in the gaps, find the right role players to mix in with the growing young talent.
Not that I am advocating this, but man why trade assets for Dubois, who needs a new contract and coming off of a contract of $5 mil aav as his starting point, when you can go and sign Malkin for an AAV not too far north of what Dubois would want, on a shorter term deal while likely producing at the same or higher level. Oh and is a proven winner while Dubois is not to this point. And I cannot stand Malkin. Yes you would need to find ways to shed salary, but I would rather shed a salary like Lindgren (not that I really want to) than to deal a young player like Kakko AND another young asset in Lundkvist.
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We need to keep this simple. Elevate the kid line and sign a 3C that can reasonably spell Chytil when he gets hurt (which we know is going to happen). We don’t need to get cute.
The only way this team is going to win it all is if the kids consistently do what they did for stretches in the playoffs. It’s time to give them that responsibility.
The only way this team is going to win it all is if the kids consistently do what they did for stretches in the playoffs. It’s time to give them that responsibility.
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I’m warming back up to the idea of Copp. He is a good fit with Panarin and can actually defend and win faceoffs. He was gassed and injured like the rest of the team by the Tampa series. Playing with a hobbled Strome (3 points!) brought him and Panarin down imo.
I think there’s a contract (5.25x5?) that works for both sides. The Rangers desperately need a reliable 2 C and the other options seem overly complicated.
Kreider-Mika-Kakko
Panarin-Copp-Laf
Blais-Chytil-Kravtsov
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(I think motte prices himself out)
Let the team grow together (like Tampa & Colorado did). In 2023 K’Andre & Laf were always getting bridged and they will find the space for Chytil to be extended by replacing Blais/Reaves with Othmann & Cuylle. Worry about the rest later because the window is the next 3 seasons before shit hits the fan with an Igor extension.
I think there’s a contract (5.25x5?) that works for both sides. The Rangers desperately need a reliable 2 C and the other options seem overly complicated.
Kreider-Mika-Kakko
Panarin-Copp-Laf
Blais-Chytil-Kravtsov
Rooney-Goodrow-Hunt/Reaves
(I think motte prices himself out)
Let the team grow together (like Tampa & Colorado did). In 2023 K’Andre & Laf were always getting bridged and they will find the space for Chytil to be extended by replacing Blais/Reaves with Othmann & Cuylle. Worry about the rest later because the window is the next 3 seasons before shit hits the fan with an Igor extension.
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Really hope Chytil is one of those "stops getting hurt when he hits 22-25" players. We see it a lot with young guys in the NHL.
I keep mentioning Ryder Korczak in this thread. Let's see what he can do. Maybe he can steal a spot.
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No way they obviously need every 5M-8M guy they can get their hands on what's a salary cap.
For real tho this off-season is gonna be pretty boring in terms of splash.
