Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXXVII

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He has great rebound control...what he doesn't have is a defensive group to get the puck out before another scoring chance comes.

With the growth of KAM, the Rangers top 4 is comparable to any team in the league. The five hole is a bigger problem for Shesterkin than is rebound control, but he's the least of this team's problems.
 
Johan Larsson would be a really good addition. So would Michael Raffl. So would Tyler Motte.

I disagree that this team has lots of assets anymore. They had a lot of assets. They just traded a bunch for Copp, Braun and Vatrano.

Hopefully Drury can use players like Gauthier, Hajek and Georgiev to recoup a few middle-round picks.
I’m on the same wagon. Don’t just not qualify them. Move them for mid to late round picks to recoup those picks and it’ll wash those moves except Copp.

Those picks aside they do have assets. Whether they would trade them or not is a different story.

Lundkvist
2022 2nd
2023 1st
Othmann
Robertson
Jones

Those are all really good assets. Nothing they gave up (even 30th overall) is really a PRIME asset.
 
I’m on the same wagon. Don’t just not qualify them. Move them for mid to late round picks to recoup those picks and it’ll wash those moves except Copp.

Those picks aside they do have assets. Whether they would trade them or not is a different story.

Lundkvist
2022 2nd
2023 1st
Othmann
Robertson
Jones

Those are all really good assets. Nothing they gave up (even 30th overall) is really a PRIME asset.

They have some assets but I’d argue that moving them would be a bad idea. Losing the 1st and 2nd’s means that moving prospects this offseason would really deplete the system. They won’t have the opportunity to replenish this offseason after losing those picks.
 
I don’t think there’s a lot to do in the off-season. I don’t think we’re gonna sign a 2C but could trade for a 2C ceiling guy to compete with Chytil

1. Recoup/dump Georgie, Goat, Hajek, Nemeth

2. Trade a Lundkvist headed package for a C like Kupari or whoever else, include Kravtsov if it’s big game hunting

3. Sign Motte and Braun

4. Pay a little extra to lock KK up for 3 yrs at say 3.5 mil
 
I’m on the same wagon. Don’t just not qualify them. Move them for mid to late round picks to recoup those picks and it’ll wash those moves except Copp.

Those picks aside they do have assets. Whether they would trade them or not is a different story.

Lundkvist
2022 2nd
2023 1st
Othmann
Robertson
Jones

Those are all really good assets. Nothing they gave up (even 30th overall) is really a PRIME asset.

They (Hajek/Gauthier/Georgiev) have no value. 7th round pick or a conditional pick at best for any of them.
 
They (Hajek/Gauthier/Georgiev) have no value. 7th round pick or a conditional pick at best for any of them.

And that's fine. Get a "hope pick" and select NCAA or Euro players with one really strong area and let them cook for a few years in respective programs.

@Amazing Kreiderman or someone else. Are you allowed to tell us what injury Nils had that kept him out the last month of the season/taxi quad?
 
I'd be very cautious giving Copp a long term deal. He's one of those guys like Callahan who is going to miss time every year based on the way he plays and his injury history. He's always one game away from missing 1/4 the season. If it's like 5.5 for 5 I think about it. Anything over 6 and I stay away.

The best thing to happen for the Rangers would be if Ryder Korczak acclimates himself to the pro game and can get a up of coffee this year. The depth would be hugely upgraded. That's asking a lot though for a first year pro.
 
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And that's fine. Get a "hope pick" and select NCAA or Euro players with one really strong area and let them cook for a few years in respective programs.

@Amazing Kreiderman or someone else. Are you allowed to tell us what injury Nils had that kept him out the last month of the season/taxi quad?

Paladium joint contusion with swelling of the dormatoid.
 
And that's fine. Get a "hope pick" and select NCAA or Euro players with one really strong area and let them cook for a few years in respective programs.

@Amazing Kreiderman or someone else. Are you allowed to tell us what injury Nils had that kept him out the last month of the season/taxi quad?

What's the point on anyone trading for Gauthier/Hajek when they can offersheet them at a tier which would have no compensation?
 
Paladium joint contusion with swelling of the dormatoid.

For about a minute I thought this was an At The Drive-In lyric (Cedric Bixler).

What's the point on anyone trading for Gauthier/Hajek when they can offersheet them at a tier which would have no compensation?

You try. Maybe a club likes them. Maybe a headache for headache deal.

Most likely they have no value but you don't just give up.

Remember when the Rangers traded Voros for Emminger? That worked out pretty well.
 
What's the point on anyone trading for Gauthier/Hajek when they can offersheet them at a tier which would have no compensation?
1. The player has to sign the offer sheet.
2. Both players are arbitration eligible and will likely elect arbitration. Once they elect arbitration, they can no longer sign an offer sheet.
3. No team is going to offer either player more than the Rangers could match. The Ranger might ultimately lose the player on waivers, but there's no guarantee that the team that gave the offer sheet would then get the player.
4. Professional courtesy. Neither player is worth much. Sending back a pick that isn't worth much is a good way to maintain relationships. Gorton could have been a dick to Carolina and offered only a 3rd round pick for Fox. Instead, he offered closer to fair value because he knows he would need to deal with them again.
 
They (Hajek/Gauthier/Georgiev) have no value. 7th round pick or a conditional pick at best for any of them.
I remember a couple of days ago that it was reported on one of the more “legitimate hockey talking head services” that Edmonton might be kicking the tires on Georgiev.
 
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I remember a couple of days ago that it was reported on one of the more “legitimate hockey talking head services” that Edmonton might be kicking the tires on Georgiev.
That's front offices negotiating with each other and letting other teams in the league know he's available. It's also a signal *from EDM* that they want a young somewhat inexpensive goalie to the rest of the league and not necessarily about Georgiev at all.

Kicking the tires might mean Geo straight up for a bad contract with multiple years. A lot more likely than a dump for a pick, EDM is cap strapped afaik.
 
Edmonton is going to most likely go Smith/Skinner. Rangers don't need Kassian who would be the cap shed for Georgiev. Derek Ryan could help. Maybe. But that would be like a $300K cap hit save for one of Hajek/Gauthier.

Asset fetishists need every hit of dopamine they can get.

Eh, it's less about trying to cosplay as Esposito or make EA trades, then fixing the center ice position for this franchise longterm and winning a few Cups.

More picks are more chances to help the organization.
 
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I remember a couple of days ago that it was reported on one of the more “legitimate hockey talking head services” that Edmonton might be kicking the tires on Georgiev.

Georgiev is also an actual legitimate NHL player. The other two are not. I can see a team dealing a 7th for his negotiating rights.
 
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