Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXXV

[RangersFan1994]

Can’t wait for him to come back only to leave in the middle of the playoff race

 

[Chytilmania]

Lindgren for Kupari? maybe? No clue what his value is. I know a lot of people soured on Turcotte, but I look at what he is, not where he was drafted.

No idea how Turcotte is progressing but is that something realistic, Lindgren for Turcotte +/- whatever? I would like that.

 

[Alluckks]

Strome walks
Nemeth traded (we add something likely)
Chytil traded

Need to find a play driving 3rd line center, either vet on decent contract or another young guy. Could add someone like Lundkvist to Chytil for a good player.

Re-sign Vatrano and Copp

Kreider Zib Vatrano
Panarin Copp Kakko
Laf ____ _____
Blais Goodrow Hunt/Reaves

 

[bobbop]

At this point it is on Laf and Kakko. They are not explosive enough to be impactful NHLers. And if they aren't smart enough to get powerskating practice and train their explosiveness in the gym then they won't be anything regardless of where they play.

I actually think Lafreniere’s skating lately has been pretty good.

 

[Alluckks]

I think Othmann legit pushes for a spot out of camp. Kravstov could win the 3rd line RW spot though.

 

[Alluckks]

I actually think Lafreniere’s skating lately has been pretty good.

He seems to be skating hard more consistently. Just familiarity with the league. Learning where you can stop your feet to take a breather. He never was gonna be a plus skater, but with some good IQ you can make your skating be good enough to compliment your other skills.

Fox ain't exactly a world beater in the skating department.

 

[Alluckks]

How does the Rangers acquiring Chychrun help their cap situation? The idea of trading Lindgren is because of cap reasons. The Rangers are adding $1.6M in cap commitments. The Rangers trade the $3M and replace him with a player making $925,000. It frees up over $2M in cap space. The Rangers would use that money to re-sign some of their other players.

Maybe Columbus for Strome? Columbus needs help in the middle. JD knows him from New York. They have the cap space. Laine is due a new contract. They don't any other major commitments coming up. There aren't that many teams with ample cap space. Columbus has never been afraid to give big contracts. Columbus has young centers but teams are usually reluctant to play them all at center. Columbus is not far from being a playoff team. Columbus has two first round picks in this draft. Chicago's pick is top 2 protected. Strome would help them and JD would take away a player from the Rangers.

I think the idea was acquiring Chychrun at 50% retained. Which Arizona is definitely willing to do. And would save cap.

Would be expensive via trade though.

 

[common12]

Nothing to debate.

They targeted him, traded for him, signed him.

All of a sudden the cap issue popped up like they didn't see that coming ??

Had they traded for Eichel and signed Fox to his deal or did what they eventually did with Mika, the Front office knew full well what they were doing and getting into.

They acquired a 2 time SC champ, they are not trading him.

There is nothing to debate.

I'd bet dollars to donuts that Chytil is traded long before Goodrow.

The merits of that decision is debatable, but the idea that they are gonna trade Goodrow is not based in reality

What's not based in reality is you thinking Barclay Goodrow is an untouchable.

Let me add him to the list:
Guys with NMC
Shesterkin
Miller
Barclay Goodrow.....lol


Yea okay

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

We drafted FIVE forwards in the first round prior to Othmann (4 in the top 10) and got zero impact forwards out of it.

I wonder what the common denominator is.

 

[mas0764]

At this point, it very much may be a reality that one of Kakko/Laf needs to go to compliment the window that is going to exist for the next 2-3 years with this core. You can say there’s “two windows” but that assumption is contingent upon a second window existing when Laf and KK are in their primes. That window may never come. The window that exists right now with Zib, Panarin, Kreider, Fox, Trouba, Miller, Shesty, etc. is real. It’s here. None of Laf, Chytil or Kakko are contributing to it. Assuming there will be a second window led by Laf, Kakko, Chytil, Fox, Miller, Schneider, Shesty is a MASSIVE leap of faith right now. Schneider filling Trouba’s shoes seems likely, but those three kids filling the shoes of Kreider, Mika and Panarin is extremely unlikely.

Meanwhile, they have value now. If we can add quality players who are under contract you have to listen to offers. As you see with Vatrano, you can find a winger to compliment your top six. Can we get a young center or stud LD out of KK or Laf? Those are harder to find. Our prized young assets happen to play the least valuable positions. If Laf could land us a youngish cost controlled center and we had 3-4 deep playoff runs over the next 4 years… especially if we won a Cup… I don’t really know if I’d care whether Laf became a 70+ point winger for someone else one day. And I’m comfortable enough with the gamble that he won’t.

We aren’t trading Kakko or Laf.

 

[LokiDog]

We aren’t trading Kakko or Laf.

Yes, Mr. Drury.

I mean. Otherwise, that’s completely unknowable. It’s obviously unlikely, but it’s FAR from impossible at this point.

 

[mas0764]

Just out of curiosity, but where do most Rangers fans see Kakko and Laf? Could they get traded and if so, what would the Rangers be looking for?

You can’t afford it.

 

[mas0764]

Yes, Mr. Drury.

I mean. Otherwise, that’s completely unknowable. It’s obviously unlikely, but it’s FAR from impossible at this point.

More likely we trade Kreider.

 

[mas0764]

It goes to show you the importance of size.

I remember the discussion from this offseason... Where people thought it'd be fine to run out Fox, Lindgren, Jones and Lundkvist...

I still believe that.

 

[mas0764]

Nils+. Lindgren a separate deal.

Nils needs to fetch a center.

 

[mas0764]

Bingo. Grit is great but you shouldn't sacrifice skill for it.

Pretty much what I’ve been saying…. But Goodrow, Hunt and Blais aren’t really grit with skill. Goodrow and Blais are almost all grit. Hunt is an AHLer.

 

[Chytilmania]

I wonder what the common denominator is.

delete

 

[LokiDog]

God dammit. Cole Sillinger, who is still 18 years old has 26 points in 71 games as of tonight. He averages 13:36 per night on a team whose leading scorer has 56 points.

Lafreniere has 25 points in 72 games, averaging 13:55 a night on a team with a guy who may hit 100 points and having spent some of that time playing with a 50 goal scorer and a point per game center.

That stings.

 

[Circus86]

Goodrow-Chytil-KK looked good today I thought. But I guess that line will be Laf-Chytil-KK going forward and Goodrow will be on the 4th?

 

[pld459666]

What's not based in reality is you thinking Barclay Goodrow is an untouchable.

Let me add him to the list:
Guys with NMC
Shesterkin
Miller
Barclay Goodrow.....lol


Yea okay

So now you resort to putting words in my mouth.

Making up shit pretty clearly indicates you got nuttin.

We're done here..

 

[Savant]

Strome walks
Nemeth traded (we add something likely)
Chytil traded

Need to find a play driving 3rd line center, either vet on decent contract or another young guy. Could add someone like Lundkvist to Chytil for a good player.

Re-sign Vatrano and Copp

Kreider Zib Vatrano
Panarin Copp Kakko
Laf ____ _____
Blais Goodrow Hunt/Reaves

As a reminder, we have not seen Copp play center for this team regularly yet. I’m not signing Copp no matter what without seeing him have a run at center. Absolutely not.

 

[Savant]

Goodrow-Chytil-KK looked good today I thought. But I guess that line will be Laf-Chytil-KK going forward and Goodrow will be on the 4th?

God I hope not. That would be so moronic.

 

[Savant]

God dammit. Cole Sillinger, who is still 18 years old has 26 points in 71 games as of tonight. He averages 13:36 per night on a team whose leading scorer has 56 points.

Lafreniere has 25 points in 72 games, averaging 13:55 a night on a team with a guy who may hit 100 points and having spent some of that time playing with a 50 goal scorer and a point per game center.

That stings.

Why does it sting? Not like the Rangers could have had Sillinger

 

[BBKers]

Kreider Zib Kravtsov/LAF
Panarin Copp Kakko
LAF/Kravtsov ____ Blais
Hunt Goodrow Reaves/Brodz
Spare: Vet Bargain bin UFA (Statsny?) not with a Peg Leg

Chychrun - Fox
Miller - Trouba
Jones - Schneider
Vet (Braun for cheap?)

Czar
Martin Jones under $1M

Chytil and Nils to ?? for a Young cost controlled 3-Center if the right deal is there (otherwise keep Phil)
2022 1st (conditional/Copp), Lindgren, Hajek, Gauthier plus to Desert for Chychrun at reduced cap (not 50%)
Nemeth and Henriksson to Detroit for a 5th

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Yes, Mr. Drury.

I mean. Otherwise, that’s completely unknowable. It’s obviously unlikely, but it’s FAR from impossible at this point.

It's about as impossible as you can get. They aren't getting traded in the offseason. You don't trade a 1st and 2nd overall pick after 2-3 years. Nobody does that and the Rangers aren't going to be the first.