Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXXV

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How do you fit it under the cap and still pay a 2C?

Fair point, but I think I would look to spend less on a 2c. Kick tires on Copp. The team has an offensive 1c in Z. We don't really need another dynamic ppg 2c. And we really should not be looking at the Miller's and pavelskis of the world. Our 2c should be a better all around player. Someone we can really trust with a close game. Then again, what do I know. Our beat writers don't even know what the team is doing.
 
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too bad we couldn’t have Blais return for a playoff run... kid has all the traits that would make him a quality playoff player in the middle/bottom 6. Size, hits like a tank, solid set of hands, decent speed, etc..
He’s just had some terrible injury luck. Hopefully he’ll be back and 100% healthy for the start of next year. He would be an important guy for ya in playoff hockey atmosphere imo.
His hits alone are momentum changers and bring the crowd/guys on the ice/bench alive...
It sucks that Drury is looking to add a similar player like that now at the TDL cause of that jerkoff Subban.
I think there is an outside chance Blais could be back if we make it past the 1st round. Who knows.

But I think the Rangers are looking to add a little more than what Blais would bring. A little more of a scoring touch
 
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2, The Rangers and the Bruins. Those are also the two most likely bidders. I like the Rangers chances.
And it comes down to is Boston ready to make that move in the next 2 weeks. Are they ready to address it now. Even so, do they want to get into a bidding war this “early” for a middle 6 winger that drives up price.

Ultimately, I think Smith goes for a 3rd and its here.
 
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The Rangers are 16th in GFPG. Its not like they are completely devoid of scoring. And that is with Panarin and Zibanejad having slow starts.

I’ll take the more diverse lineup over Buchnevich’s scoring. We weren’t going to be able to keep Buchnevich anyway. We have deadline space to add some depth scoring.
I’m not saying the Rangers would have been able to keep Buchnevich. I like Reaves as much as the best guy but nobody is taking him over Buchnevich. Vegas didn’t even play Reaves in every game
 
And it comes down to is Boston ready to make that move in the next 2 weeks. Are they ready to address it now. Even so, do they want to get into a bidding war this “early” for a middle 6 winger that drives up price.

Ultimately, I think Smith goes for a 3rd and its here.

If they can swing Smith for just a 3rd, I bet they go hard after JT. Just based on what we’ve been hearing
 
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If you are Vegas, the problem with waiting out the market is that the market will inevitably shrink. Vancouver is going to move players and Rutherford’s MO is sooner rather than later. Everyone in Arizona is available. Once you get past the Rangers and the Bruins, most of the other teams in the east will be looking at dollars in, dollars out.
 
I’m not saying the Rangers would have been able to keep Buchnevich. I like Reaves as much as the best guy but nobody is taking him over Buchnevich. Vegas didn’t even play Reaves in every game
But I just dont see it as one over the other. I dont think Reaves had anything to do with Reaves or vice versa. Same with Goodrow. I didnt like the return for the Buch trade but I understand why it happened.
 
Fair point, but I think I would look to spend less on a 2c. Kick tires on Copp. The team has an offensive 1c in Z. We don't really need another dynamic ppg 2c. And we really should not be looking at the Miller's and pavelskis of the world. Our 2c should be a better all around player. Someone we can really trust with a close game. Then again, what do I know. Our beat writers don't even know what the team is doing.

I think Copp makes the most sense for us, unless Drury can manage to steal Miller/Hertl for under market value.
I would absolutely add Reilly smith, I just don’t see Vegas moving him.. a big blow on the ice/and locker room if he leaves right before playoffs....
I doubt any coach/GM would want to do that.
I’m sure he’ll check in on Lehkonen/Jarnkrok/Boyd/Brown/Tiermey as well...
If it was up to me, I’d add Copp and a steady Vet Holden type 5-6 D and go to war. He’s also pretty good in the face off circle..
I wonder what he’ll return??? I’m guessing they’d ask for a late 1st depending on the season he’s having, and the raise he’s gonna need.
But it shouldn’t be much more then that.
 
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Seattle’s the other team I’d be looking to make a deal with. Rangers could do all their deadline/long term shopping with them.

What’s the price for Gourde, Jarnkrok and Giordano ?
 
Well. Bully for you, I guess. Neither Kakko nor Kravtsov did anything (in fact, both of them did FAR less than Chytil) to prove that they should get a run as top six RWs, but because of cap realities, the team cleared the deck to give them that opportunity. The cap is going to be tight. The money just isn't there to retain Strome or bring in a long-term replacement (barring a trade for a younger player, but young, cost-controlled C's don't often become available). Chytil has also played well in just about every situation where he's had top six minutes thus far (his recent stint on the RW, his injury fill ins for Mika), AND he's played well with Kakko and Kreider in the past (I said Bread in my previous post, but brain fried--I'd put Bread/Mika/Laf as line 1 and Kreider/Chytil/Kakko as line 2). Get an insurance policy, sure. But it would be stupid to eject Chytil without ever giving him an extended shot there. Particularly since the team won't be able to afford an upgrade for the next couple of years anyway. I also think Blais/Copp/Goodrow would be an amazing third line.

I don't want this team to make the same kind of mistake Philly made with Justin Williams or that they made back in the 90s with Marc Savard. You get to a point with a player, you need to just give them rope and see what they can do with it. It's that time for Chytil.

And this whole "wasting Igor's cheap years" doesn't work as a narrative. Play Chytil there or not, we still won't have the cap space for an upgrade that will be here longer than a year and change. This is less about Chytil and more about whether you would rather sacrifice the long term future to try and win the Cup this year or next. You fall in the group that would gleefully make that sacrifice. I am in the group that thinks that the team isn't quite ready to be a contender due to lack of playoff experience. The only way this team wins the Cup this year or next is if Shesterkin drags them to one. The 2C isn't going to change that. So I'd rather see the team ride out the cap crunch for the next two years, see what they have in players who have been blocked/brought along slowly, and get that playoff experience so that when the cap does go up, we'll be ready to seriously contend year in and year out.

but didn’t you just say that the rangers would actually have the space to sign strome and took on Miller at 50%?

ck/mz/kravtsov
Bread/strome/goodrow
Laf/Miller/kakko
Hunt/barron/reaves

Fox/Lindgren
Miller/Trouba
Jones/Schneider

Igor
Kincaid

this fits under the cap but you’d rather have chytil at 2c.
 
I hope you’re right. He’s been Thru the playoff grind and would be able to play on probably either of the top 2 lines
 
My guess is a second and a marginal player or prospect for Smith. No first. No blue chipper. No market to drive up the price.

As long as it’s not our bluest blue chips, I think we’ll be okay. Smith will have good synergy. We should maybe try him at LD. Or 1C. Just no bluest blue chips.

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Im unsure what im looking at so i am going to focus on the DeBrincat/Gaborik/Bure/Thornton comps for Laf and nothing else

I think those percentages are skewed by the same reasons we always give for why they haven’t exploded statistically yet.
 
I think they solve the long-term cap issues by trading Trouba after next year, for the same reasons Lindgren could be available.. Give Schneider 1.5 years to show he can take over those minutes. So far, so good.

Haven’t you argued against me suggesting this exact thing?

I agree, Trouba is gone. Which is why Nils can stay btw.
 
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