Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXXV

[Vitto79]

So Drury gonna hit up Vegas for R Smith W Eichel and Martinez due back soon ?

can offer cheaper players like Hajek and Gauthier plus a 2nd . It shouldn’t cost a lot W Vegas needing to shed

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

Would you prefer to have Greg McKegg slotted higher in the lineup?

Obviously, I do not enjoy watching McKegg play hockey But, I liked what I saw from Barron last night. He seemed like he had some nice chances, played a decent game. If he can play that way consistently, I would prefer to get him some minutes and develop into a legit NHL grinder, compared to Chytil who literally brings nothing to the table.

 

[mas0764]

2.5 years from now at the start of the 2025 season panarin will be turing 33 on oct 30, kreider will be 33, Mika will be 31. Also that first wave of kids all have very smart agents who know the flat cap will be gone, they arent going to screw themselves out of money or their cuts of contracts to help the team, any bump in the cap is going to be soaked up by those kids.

As for moving up in the draft to get a high end center prospect I ask you when are the last 2 or 3 times that a team was able to trade into the top 10 of the draft? How about the top 5?

This article is from 2018 but the concept is still correct, and since this article there hasn't been any massive shift: How often are top 10 NHL Draft picks traded in June? - Sportsnet.ca

We just did it ourselves in 2018.

 

[mas0764]

This team has zero need for Chytil. He brings nothing of value. Hate to even say that because I was hopeful. Time to move on. Get whatever you can get for him.

Too early to give up or get little back.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

Lehkonen is a nice player that could be a long term piece. He'd be high on my list of targets as he can really solidify the third line.

One question is, what does his next contract look like? Already making $2.3M and due an RFA deal this offseason, turns 27 in July. Can't he take a 1 year arb award and walk himself to UFA?

 

[motopanekeku]

This team really doesn't need 3-4 pieces right now. They need the pieces they have to fill the roles they have open. Lafreniere appears to be taking a step playing with Kreider and Zibanejad. If that continues that a HUGE hole filled. When Kaako comes back, staple him to Panarin and Strome, it worked before.

Kreider-Zibanejad-Lafreniere
Panarin-Strome-Kaako
Chytil-Barron/Goodrow-Barron/Goodrow
Hunt/McKegg-Rooney-Reaves/Hunt/McKegg

The clear spot to upgrade is Chytil's in terms of finding the right guy to play on that line. Beyond that, the lineup is pretty much set up front.

Lindgren-Fox
Miller-Trouba
Nemeth/Hajek-Schneider

The clear upgrade here is 3rd pairing LD. I'd be fine finding someone in the mold of a Brendan Smith type.

Shesty
Georgiev

If there is a team out there looking to make an upgrade in goal and interested in Georgiev, now is the time. I have mentioned Edmonton as a location that makes sense for a while. Take Koskinen back and roll with Kinkaid/Koskinen as the backup for the remainder of the season.

3c is the obvious upgrade. Who is worth going after? Gourde could be had..

Chytl, Jones, Lundquist, Georgiev are all tradeable assets that should bring value.

Also Strome is making a strong case for himself these days. I hope he stays because he's like a pinball bumper down the middle of the ice.

The Rangers are in a good position going forward and it would be hard for any gm to f this up with bad moves.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

3c is the obvious upgrade. Who is worth going after? Gourde could be had..

Chytl, Jones, Lundquist, Georgiev are all tradeable assets that should bring value.

Also Strome is making a strong case for himself these days. I hope he stays because he's like a pinball bumper down the middle of the ice.

The Rangers are in a good position going forward and it would be hard for any gm to f this up with bad moves.

I don't think Gourde can be had.

Copp is the 3C you're looking for. He and Lehkonen are pretty easy adds for me if the Rangers want to pony up assets.

Chychrun is someone they should be in on because of length of contract after this season. If we're going to burn bigger assets (Nils for instance) it should be here.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

The first thing that really needs to happen IMO for things to work is for Lafreniere and Kakko to solidify spots on the top 2 lines. Or certainly, that would be the most ideal thing to happen.

Find a way to add Copp, Lehkonen, and an LD - Giordano, Leddy, de Haan depending on the cost and if they want to prioritize offense or defense.

Kreider-Zibanejad-Lafreniere
Panarin-Strome-Kakko
Lehkonen-Copp-Goodrow
Hunt-Rooney-Reaves
Chytil, McKegg, Barron, Gauthier

Lindgren-Fox
Miller-Trouba
LD-Schneider
Nemeth, Jones, Hajek, Lundkvist, Tinordi

Shesty
Geo

That's a team you can go to battle with in the POs. Obviously, some of the depth players listed will be moved.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

The first thing that really needs to happen IMO for things to work is for Lafreniere and Kakko to solidify spots on the top 2 lines. Or certainly, that would be the most ideal thing to happen.

Find a way to add Copp, Lehkonen, and an LD - Giordano, Leddy, de Haan depending on the cost and if they want to prioritize offense or defense.

Kreider-Zibanejad-Lafreniere
Panarin-Strome-Kakko
Lehkonen-Copp-Goodrow
Hunt-Rooney-Reaves
Chytil, McKegg, Barron, Gauthier

Lindgren-Fox
Miller-Trouba
LD-Schneider
Nemeth, Jones, Hajek, Lundkvist, Tinordi

Shesty
Geo

That's a team you can go to battle with in the POs. Obviously, some of the depth players listed will be moved.

I don't think Lehkonen-Copp-Kakko is a bad idea either.

Personally, I would like it if we could get to a position where Reaver is a 13th forward.

 

[DudMan28]

Barron had a bad start but a good finish. Had a nice chance on the 3 on 1 during the delayed penalty. He is also strong for a young guy, he knocked down quite a few panthers and absorbed a Gudas hit well. Reminds me of Boyle

Yeah he got better as the game went on. I think he just needs more experience. He really has nothing left to do in the AHL, and with out massive needs in the bottom 6 it doesn't make sense to not give him an extended look. Barring a massive collapse we have a playoff spot locked up. Let him get his legs under him with the big club.

 

[Ruggs225]

The first thing that really needs to happen IMO for things to work is for Lafreniere and Kakko to solidify spots on the top 2 lines. Or certainly, that would be the most ideal thing to happen.

Find a way to add Copp, Lehkonen, and an LD - Giordano, Leddy, de Haan depending on the cost and if they want to prioritize offense or defense.

Kreider-Zibanejad-Lafreniere
Panarin-Strome-Kakko
Lehkonen-Copp-Goodrow
Hunt-Rooney-Reaves
Chytil, McKegg, Barron, Gauthier

Lindgren-Fox
Miller-Trouba
LD-Schneider
Nemeth, Jones, Hajek, Lundkvist, Tinordi

Shesty
Geo

That's a team you can go to battle with in the POs. Obviously, some of the depth players listed will be moved.

if we add Copp why not just move Chytil to 3RW?

why trade for someone else?

chytil doesnt look that bad on the wing.

 

[Ruggs225]

Basically i think all we need is a solid 3C. And i mean go for gold and get Miller, we have the cap space this year.


Kreider-zib-laf
Pan-strome-kakko
Goody-miller-chytil (krav if he comes over)
Barron-rooney-reaves/hunt (blais next year)

boom!

lindgren-fox
Miller-trouba
Jones-schneider


Shesty
Georgiev (unless edm ponies up 1rd)

trade Georgy in offseason

 

[NYR Viper]

3c is the obvious upgrade. Who is worth going after? Gourde could be had..

Chytl, Jones, Lundquist, Georgiev are all tradeable assets that should bring value.

Also Strome is making a strong case for himself these days. I hope he stays because he's like a pinball bumper down the middle of the ice.

The Rangers are in a good position going forward and it would be hard for any gm to f this up with bad moves.

I think that ship has sailed, at least for now. The team has a lot riding on Barron coming in and growing in to that spot. Goodrow is a good backup option there.

I really don't like the idea of going out and trying to add Copp, Lehkonen and Leddy/Giordano. We are talking about loading up in a year when the team is still building and the cost to do this would be pretty high overall. On top of that, most of those guys would be pure rentals which is a good way to deplete the system with very little long term value.

 

[McRanger92]

Sooo, it just hit me...no NYR hockey for 2 weeks

Thank god they win that game how they did yesterday. It would’ve been a bloodbath here hahaha

 

[McRanger92]

Kreider - Zib - LAF
Bread - Messier light - K2
Crouse - Kopp - Lehkonen would make a mighty fine third line
Goodrow - Rooney - Reaves
Hunt, McKegg, (Barron)

Add a vet UFA D like Leddy too. Or Smith (BUF) on D

Pieces going out would be Chytil, Gauthier, AG, Hajek, a young Defender not named Schneider, draft picks (not #1)/middle prospects (there are some untouchables)

Deal Kravtsov for Vilardi in the offseason
Strome and likely Rooney too would walk the walk for cap reasons
Goodrow slides up. Maybe sign a cheap stopgap VET C
Blais gets his QO
Offload Nemeth then as well
Cap should work then for next season - as most RFA players will want to sign short term deals now awaiting presumed TV money raises after the 2022/2023 season
After next season one of Trouba or Kreider becomes a likely cap casualty
Hopefully then a few of the guys in the pipeline like Othmann, Cuylle, Korczak, Berard, Edström... are ready too

I absolutely love Trouba but he’s being moved before Kreider with Schneider’s emergence. Kreider’s game will age well and he should be named C

 

[McRanger92]

I was kind of surprised how strong he is. I was at the LA game last week and he absolutely leveled a guy that tried to hit him in open ice. Like, just braced for impact and the player bounced right off of him.

I don’t know if he can protect the puck like Dubinsky, but to me Barron is a throwback prospect to when he and Callahan were coming through the system.

 

[McRanger92]

This team really doesn't need 3-4 pieces right now. They need the pieces they have to fill the roles they have open. Lafreniere appears to be taking a step playing with Kreider and Zibanejad. If that continues that a HUGE hole filled. When Kaako comes back, staple him to Panarin and Strome, it worked before.

Kreider-Zibanejad-Lafreniere
Panarin-Strome-Kaako
Chytil-Barron/Goodrow-Barron/Goodrow
Hunt/McKegg-Rooney-Reaves/Hunt/McKegg

The clear spot to upgrade is Chytil's in terms of finding the right guy to play on that line. Beyond that, the lineup is pretty much set up front.

Lindgren-Fox
Miller-Trouba
Nemeth/Hajek-Schneider

The clear upgrade here is 3rd pairing LD. I'd be fine finding someone in the mold of a Brendan Smith type.

Shesty
Georgiev

If there is a team out there looking to make an upgrade in goal and interested in Georgiev, now is the time. I have mentioned Edmonton as a location that makes sense for a while. Take Koskinen back and roll with Kinkaid/Koskinen as the backup for the remainder of the season.

The minimalist approach is fine, but the salary cap situation makes me think they can and should take a big swing for a rental forward. It hurts less to trade a late 1st when you have an extra 2nd

 

[McRanger92]

So Drury gonna hit up Vegas for R Smith W Eichel and Martinez due back soon ?

can offer cheaper players like Hajek and Gauthier plus a 2nd . It shouldn’t cost a lot W Vegas needing to shed

I’d trade a first for him. He’s a 1st line player who can do it all

 

[mas0764]

I absolutely love Trouba but he’s being moved before Kreider with Schneider’s emergence. Kreider’s game will age well and he should be named C

I'm not convinced Kreider isn't also moved but I think you are right (well, except Captain, I think that should go to Fox or perhaps Lafreniere eventually). Even though we are full at left wing, in general we have less at forward than defense. Kreider's re-invention as Johan Franzen also extends his shelf life cause he doesn't need to skate. Speed goes before strength in people as they age generally. He can move down the line up and still take the PP net front presence role, and if he can PK too then so much the better.

 

[pld459666]

Nice, is your mom gonna bring out milk and cookies

No, bit I do love me some ice cold milk and chips ahoy

 

[pld459666]

I’d trade a first for him. He’s a 1st line player who can do it all

Nope. Pure rental.

The salary relief along knocks back the value to a late 2nd

 

[Pawnee Rangers]

Schneider didn't get assigned to Hartford for the break, nor did Jones. Lundkvist has his work cut out for him at the moment. I still think it comes down to either him or Jones because it looks like Schneider is here to stay.

 

[Rangers in 7]

Schneider didn't get assigned to Hartford for the break, nor did Jones. Lundkvist has his work cut out for him at the moment. I still think it comes down to either him or Jones because it looks like Schneider is here to stay.

I agree on Schneider and as much as I love nils I think he gets moved as part of a bigger package. I’d love to use him to build around for chychrun

 

[Crease]

Kreider - Zibanejad - Lafreniere
Panarin - Strome - Kakko
Hot - Mess - City
Rooney - Goodrow - Reaves

 

[McRanger92]

I'm not convinced Kreider isn't also moved but I think you are right (well, except Captain, I think that should go to Fox or perhaps Lafreniere eventually). Even though we are full at left wing, in general we have less at forward than defense. Kreider's re-invention as Johan Franzen also extends his shelf life cause he doesn't need to skate. Speed goes before strength in people as they age generally. He can move down the line up and still take the PP net front presence role, and if he can PK too then so much the better.

Kreider has morphed into late career Rick Nash