Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXXIV

[NYR Viper]

If the team adds anyone with term and a decent cap hit (think $4-4.5m+) then it’s either the end of Strome, Trouba or Kreider. That’s pretty much where we are. The $3.6m in dead cap has its firmest grip next season when the team is so tight on the cap.

More than likely, we will see the team add a couple of better depth options that can fill specific roles at smaller cap hits. It’s clear the 3rd line is a problem in general. The top guys are scoring. The 4th line looks pretty good. Goodrow is a very good 3rd line player.

They have:
Kreider
Zibanejad
Panarin
Strome
Kaako
Lafreniere

There’s the top-6.

Goodrow
_______
_______

Reaves
Barron
Rooney
Hunt
McKegg

Gauthier and Chytil aren’t ideal 3rd liners here. The team has some cap space to make a couple of depth moves which will help this team both this year and moving forward. It’s why adding guys like Lehkonen and Jarnkrok make more sense than many other possibilities. Both guys should be able to be re-signed at something reasonable and fit what’s actually needed and, just like Goodrow, can fill in as supplementary pieces on a top-6 line if chemistry isn’t quite right. I’d probably throw in Debrusk as well IF the team can discuss options with his agent for next year. If he wants to go the QO/UFA route than pass. If he will sign something reasonable as a depth option then it’s worth considering.

Garland. Miller. Hertl. These guys are going to require pretty large changes where it’s going to feel more like robbing Peter to pay Paul and IMO the overall net gain won’t be worth the cost to make it.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

If the team adds anyone with term and a decent cap hit (think $4-4.5m+) then it’s either the end of Strome, Trouba or Kreider. That’s pretty much where we are. The $3.6m in dead cap has its firmest grip next season when the team is so tight on the cap.

More than likely, we will see the team add a couple of better depth options that can fill specific roles at smaller cap hits. It’s clear the 3rd line is a problem in general. The top guys are scoring. The 4th line looks pretty good. Goodrow is a very good 3rd line player.

They have:
Kreider
Zibanejad
Panarin
Strome
Kaako
Lafreniere

There’s the top-6.

Goodrow
_______
_______

Reaves
Barron
Rooney
Hunt
McKegg

Gauthier and Chytil aren’t ideal 3rd liners here. The team has some cap space to make a couple of depth moves which will help this team both this year and moving forward. It’s why adding guys like Lehkonen and Jarnkrok make more sense than many other possibilities. Both guys should be able to be re-signed at something reasonable and fit what’s actually needed and, just like Goodrow, can fill in as supplementary pieces on a top-6 line if chemistry isn’t quite right. I’d probably throw in Debrusk as well IF the team can discuss options with his agent for next year. If he wants to go the QO/UFA route than pass. If he will sign something reasonable as a depth option then it’s worth considering.

Garland. Miller. Hertl. These guys are going to require pretty large changes where it’s going to feel more like robbing Peter to pay Paul and IMO the overall net gain won’t be worth the cost to make it.

If you sign Strome, I don’t think you can add these 2 mil type 3rd line players. And that’s even after removing Chytil, Nemeth, etc. You’re going in with Goodrow/Barron/Blais. Unless I’m missing something in armchair GM. If we can bundle young assets to solve our 2C problem then I think you’re 3rd line model could work.

 

[LokiDog]

If the team adds anyone with term and a decent cap hit (think $4-4.5m+) then it’s either the end of Strome, Trouba or Kreider. That’s pretty much where we are. The $3.6m in dead cap has its firmest grip next season when the team is so tight on the cap.

More than likely, we will see the team add a couple of better depth options that can fill specific roles at smaller cap hits. It’s clear the 3rd line is a problem in general. The top guys are scoring. The 4th line looks pretty good. Goodrow is a very good 3rd line player.

They have:
Kreider
Zibanejad
Panarin
Strome
Kaako
Lafreniere

There’s the top-6.

Goodrow
_______
_______

Reaves
Barron
Rooney
Hunt
McKegg

Gauthier and Chytil aren’t ideal 3rd liners here. The team has some cap space to make a couple of depth moves which will help this team both this year and moving forward. It’s why adding guys like Lehkonen and Jarnkrok make more sense than many other possibilities. Both guys should be able to be re-signed at something reasonable and fit what’s actually needed and, just like Goodrow, can fill in as supplementary pieces on a top-6 line if chemistry isn’t quite right. I’d probably throw in Debrusk as well IF the team can discuss options with his agent for next year. If he wants to go the QO/UFA route than pass. If he will sign something reasonable as a depth option then it’s worth considering.

Garland. Miller. Hertl. These guys are going to require pretty large changes where it’s going to feel more like robbing Peter to pay Paul and IMO the overall net gain won’t be worth the cost to make it.

I agree with every word.

Chytil and Nemeth make a combined 4.8M and Strome is at 4.5M this year and needing a raise. I don’t think that it’s impossible to get someone to take Nemeth. Chytil can definitely be in a package, and Strome can be a self rental at worst. That could open 9M in cap space for next year. But with a hole at 2C. Otherwise, if you can move Nemeth and Chytil you still have a little wiggle for some level of quality player to be added.

 

[McRanger92]

I'm in no rush to thin the herd of young players till we see who emerges as the better ones.

I agree you can take some guys along slowly, especially Laf/Kakko, but the team needs to be realistic about the long-term fit of some of the young guys. Kravtsov is gone for good, Chytil is useless in a bottom 6 role (and not great in a top 6 one either) and on D long term spots are running out, Schneider playing top pair while Fox is out should say it all. It’s time to use some of the assets for immediate help

 

[bleedblue94]

Would something around Nils for tippet be of interest?

 

[EdJovanovski]

Would something around Nils for tippet be of interest?

Having a fellow ginger might be good for Laffy’s development

 

[tomobson]

If the team adds anyone with term and a decent cap hit (think $4-4.5m+) then it’s either the end of Strome, Trouba or Kreider. That’s pretty much where we are. The $3.6m in dead cap has its firmest grip next season when the team is so tight on the cap.

More than likely, we will see the team add a couple of better depth options that can fill specific roles at smaller cap hits. It’s clear the 3rd line is a problem in general. The top guys are scoring. The 4th line looks pretty good. Goodrow is a very good 3rd line player.

They have:
Kreider
Zibanejad
Panarin
Strome
Kaako
Lafreniere

There’s the top-6.

Goodrow
_______
_______

Reaves
Barron
Rooney
Hunt
McKegg

Gauthier and Chytil aren’t ideal 3rd liners here. The team has some cap space to make a couple of depth moves which will help this team both this year and moving forward. It’s why adding guys like Lehkonen and Jarnkrok make more sense than many other possibilities. Both guys should be able to be re-signed at something reasonable and fit what’s actually needed and, just like Goodrow, can fill in as supplementary pieces on a top-6 line if chemistry isn’t quite right. I’d probably throw in Debrusk as well IF the team can discuss options with his agent for next year. If he wants to go the QO/UFA route than pass. If he will sign something reasonable as a depth option then it’s worth considering.

Garland. Miller. Hertl. These guys are going to require pretty large changes where it’s going to feel more like robbing Peter to pay Paul and IMO the overall net gain won’t be worth the cost to make it.

Strome is going to handicap this team cap wise. Our third line will always be a problem if Strome is resigned because the rangers won't have the cap to get a good third line. Drury is going to need to find another answer to the 2c problem or find ways to cheat the cap system.

 

[Kovalev27]

I think Chytil is a goner (if they’re keeping Strome and I believe they want to ) and Nemeth will be as well.

i think the Rangers will overpay to get a player at a discounted cap hit that will be here past this year.

think Miller/Garland


To me the smartest thing they could do is probably let Strome go and take their chances with Chytil. They need to bank on their playmakers (Panarin Lafreniere) being wingers with the way they’ve set themselves up. Tying up Strome long term I just don’t see how that’s a better play when it means having to lose kreider or trouba in a couple years.

I’d rather take my chances with Chytil developing as a 23 year old and having some flexibility. I also like Goodrow as a 3C Long term and it allows us to keep Rooney or Barron as 4C.

 

[Cag29]

Garland would be an A+ add.

But like others have said, WE NEVER add players like that.

We added Mark Messier and Adam Graves in the past both A++

 

[LokiDog]

Kreider - Zib - Laf
Panarin - Miller etc. - Kakko
Blais - Goodrow - Lehkonen
Hunt - Rooney - Reaves


So much falls on Laf and Kakko actually filling those top six spots that playing them anywhere but there just doesn’t make sense.

 

[duhmetreE]

We added Mark Messier and Adam Graves in the past both A++

what about Glen Sather?

 

[Synergy27]

The move that needs to be made is to not resign Strome and to use his cap space to sign two, good skating two way centers to anchor the 2nd and 3rd lines. Or at least one if we can commit Goodrow to 3C. If Panarin can’t score with literally anyone playing center, he isn’t worth his contract.

The thing is, I have no idea if this is possible because I don’t see too many UFAs that fit the bill.

 

[Cag29]

what about Glen Sather?

Lol. D-

 

[duhmetreE]

I'd overpay for Garland and retention. He fills exactly waht we need but it still keeps us weak at Center.

I don't know what 2way center is available.

 

[tomobson]

I'd overpay for Garland and retention. He fills exactly waht we need but it still keeps us weak at Center.

I don't know what 2way center is available.

That's a lot of years of retention. Do teams actually retain for this long?

 

[duhmetreE]

That's a lot of years of retention. Do teams actually retain for this long?

It's rare but it happens. Toronto retained over $1M for 7 years on Kessell

 

[McRanger92]

If the team adds anyone with term and a decent cap hit (think $4-4.5m+) then it’s either the end of Strome, Trouba or Kreider. That’s pretty much where we are. The $3.6m in dead cap has its firmest grip next season when the team is so tight on the cap.

More than likely, we will see the team add a couple of better depth options that can fill specific roles at smaller cap hits. It’s clear the 3rd line is a problem in general. The top guys are scoring. The 4th line looks pretty good. Goodrow is a very good 3rd line player.

They have:
Kreider
Zibanejad
Panarin
Strome
Kaako
Lafreniere

There’s the top-6.

Goodrow
_______
_______

Reaves
Barron
Rooney
Hunt
McKegg

Gauthier and Chytil aren’t ideal 3rd liners here. The team has some cap space to make a couple of depth moves which will help this team both this year and moving forward. It’s why adding guys like Lehkonen and Jarnkrok make more sense than many other possibilities. Both guys should be able to be re-signed at something reasonable and fit what’s actually needed and, just like Goodrow, can fill in as supplementary pieces on a top-6 line if chemistry isn’t quite right. I’d probably throw in Debrusk as well IF the team can discuss options with his agent for next year. If he wants to go the QO/UFA route than pass. If he will sign something reasonable as a depth option then it’s worth considering.

Garland. Miller. Hertl. These guys are going to require pretty large changes where it’s going to feel more like robbing Peter to pay Paul and IMO the overall net gain won’t be worth the cost to make it.

I’m more of a proponent of making a big top 6 addition, but this is a very convincing argument against that

 

[McRanger92]

I'd overpay for Garland and retention. He fills exactly waht we need but it still keeps us weak at Center.

I don't know what 2way center is available.

It probably costs Kakko if they are retaining for that long. Garland is the perfect Panarin/Strome RW though

 

[duhmetreE]

Larkin is still the dream. Detroit eats some salary and when he's due for a new contract, move one of Trouba/Kreider.

Force Stevie Y's hand. He liked Nils and Kravtsov. add Chytil and a 1st.

Laffy Zibs Kreider
Panarin Larkin Strome
Lekhonen Goodrow Kakko
Hunt Rooney Reaves

Kakko takes Strome spot next season. Can fill the 3rd line spot within the system.

 

[LokiDog]

UFAs that hold any intrigue are like Kadri, Trochek and Copp. Kadri will get way overpaid due to the year he’s having and will never produce like this again. There are some interesting RFA centers this summer that you might be able to key in on if their team is uncertain or they have difficult negotiations.

Norris, Necas, Lunderstrom, Zacha, Dahlen, Steel are guys I’d have eyes on.

 

[rangersfansince08]

Why would Necas leave CAR?

 

[duhmetreE]

 

[LokiDog]

Why would Necas leave CAR?

Nobody said he would. I said those are RFA’s I’d keep eyes on. Dahlen has shown some intriguing upside. Steel is a kid whose game I love and has the right attitude. I think he’d be fantastic on a third line with Goodrow and Blais. That would be a nightmare line for other teams to handle, energy wise.

 

[duhmetreE]

Carolina is going to lose a lot of forward talent/depth and a guy like ADA will get paid

 

[rangersfansince08]

Nobody said he would. I said those are RFA’s I’d keep eyes on.

Gotcha. IHe'll probably get a bridge deal.