Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXXIV

[Ola]

Why? He’s effectively paced for 30 every year since he’s had the blood clot (3 years) until this year when he actually broke the mark.

I have no doubt that Kreider easily could have his best 3.4 years in front of him. Its not even that rare for players to hit their prime later in their 30's, even if it of course is not the norm.

With that said, for me it just comes down to that when this team needs someone to step up the most -- Kreider cannot be the one that is seen the least. And unfortunately, that has been the case many many times before.

And just like nobody cared about Rick Nash insane start in the regular season when he couldn't buy a goal in the POs, things will turn fast on Kreider if he doesn't deliver when it matters.

With that said, I am not saying that Kreider -- will not -- deliver when it matters the most. Just that we have seen him not do it before. Never do it before really.

 

[jay from jersey]

This team should have pulled the trigger on the Sam Bennett deal that was rumored around this time last season. He would have been a good fit for the identity this team is trying to build. Not to mention he's locked up on a 4.4m cap hit for the next 4 years.

How good would a Laf-Bennett-Blais line have looked? Size, skill, tenacity. I think Laf would benefit from playing with those type of players to let him focus more on his offense.

correct. There was a large contingent of us on here that wanted him at the reduced price.
We also lacked any kind of grit/balls at the time as well.
That just like PLD was a big missed opportunity from gorts

 

[jay from jersey]

Why is Barron going anywhere. Seriously.

Although maybe with Gettinger scoring 19 points in 23 games in the AHL at 23 years old, there are teams who may want to see him at the NHL level. That's a distinct possibility.

What's wild is that Gettinger is only 8 months older than Barron so he's not exactly old.

I’m guessing they want to see more of getts with 4th line minutes....
However, taking Barron out of the line up totally is a mistake.
It’s not like they are sending him to Hartford to get more minutes, he’s on the dumbass taxi squad...
Barron had maybe 1-2 bad-So/so periods since being called up.
McKegg has maybe 2-3 periods where he’s been average or above in all of his starts this season.
I’m happy for Getts. He’s played well and been here a while, but seeing Barron back on the taxi squad is plain dumb

 

[JohnC]

I have no doubt that Kreider easily could have his best 3.4 years in front of him. Its not even that rare for players to hit their prime later in their 30's, even if it of course is not the norm.

With that said, for me it just comes down to that when this team needs someone to step up the most -- Kreider cannot be the one that is seen the least. And unfortunately, that has been the case many many times before.

And just like nobody cared about Rick Nash insane start in the regular season when he couldn't buy a goal in the POs, things will turn fast on Kreider if he doesn't deliver when it matters.

With that said, I am not saying that Kreider -- will not -- deliver when it matters the most. Just that we have seen him not do it before. Never do it before really.

I half agree with your assessment. Huge player for us in the ‘14 and ‘15 playoffs.

His return from injury in ‘14 essentially turned the Pittsburgh series around, along with St. Louis’ mom dying.

He’s been a key playoff player for us before, I see no reason to believe he can’t do it again.

 

[wafflepadsave]

I did - thank you sir!

Now the game isn’t on espn plus.

 

[haohmaru]

Now the game isn’t on espn plus.

NHL Network

 

[wafflepadsave]

NHL Network

I can’t get it streaming

 

[haohmaru]

I can’t get it streaming

I mean, it's f***ed isn't it?

I don't have cable but here's where I'm at (besides being in Florida):

I have ESPN+ (part of the Verizon Disney+ promotion) for most games.
I have FuboTV (streaming) so, yes, to NHL Network but Fubo doesn't have TBS or TNT so that's going to have to change (playoffs) BUT
Youtube TV has TBS and TNT but doesn't have the NHL Network
and NEITHER has Ballysports (so I can't watch any Lightning/Rangers games)
However, DirectTV Stream DOES have all of these BUT
costs $20/mo. more than the above options.

What a shit show.

 

[wafflepadsave]

I mean, it's f***ed isn't it?

I don't have cable but here's where I'm at (besides being in Florida):

I have ESPN+ (part of the Verizon Disney+ promotion) for most games.
I have FuboTV (streaming) so, yes, to NHL Network but Fubo doesn't have TBS or TNT so that's going to have to change (playoffs) BUT
Youtube TV has TBS and TNT but doesn't have the NHL Network
and NEITHER has Ballysports (so I can't watch any Lightning/Rangers games)
However, DirectTV Stream DOES have all of these BUT
costs $20/mo. more than the above options.

What a shit show.

Exactly!

 

[Alluckks]

Miller + Chytil + Kravstov for Chychrun + Crouse
Lundkvist for Lehkonen
Hajek for Debrusk

Kreider Zib Laf
Bread Strome Lehk
Crouse Goodrow Kakko
Debrusk Rooney Hunt
Reaves

Lindgren Fox
Chychrun Trouba
Jones Schneider

 

[Chalfdiggity3]

Miller + Chytil + Kravstov for Chychrun + Crouse
Lundkvist for Lehkonen
Hajek for Debrusk

Kreider Zib Laf
Bread Strome Lehk
Crouse Goodrow Kakko
Debrusk Rooney Hunt
Reaves

Lindgren Fox
Chychrun Trouba
Jones Schneider

I am not a fan.

Giving up the farm for chychrun instead of a center?

Selling low on Nils

Hajek has been solid since being back in the lineup as a 6th dman. Dont need that clown debrusk near this team.

 

[mas0764]

If Nils isn’t being put in a package for a 1C or an under 23 stud forward then the answer is no.

 

[rangersfansince08]

I've never seen a team pine for a guy like Schneider so much. Cucks fans are so f***ing weird.

 

[Synergy27]

I've never seen a team pine for a guy like Schneider so much. Cucks fans are so f***ing weird.

I mean. We pine for him too. He’s getting way more hype and support for being in the lineup than Lundkvist did. Deservedly so. He’s better.

 

[Paulie Walnutz]

I’ll tell ya what, I can see this team adding 2 forwards and bumping Laf and Kakko outta the top 6 for the playoff run and adding another d. The organization wants to win now. Too many kids on d and Laf and Kakko aren’t producing enough and will get eaten alive in the playoffs. This isn’t a hot take after a couple of losses either.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

I’ll tell ya what, I can see this team adding 2 forwards and bumping Laf and Kakko outta the top 6 for the playoff run and adding another d. The organization wants to win now. Too many kids on d and Laf and Kakko aren’t producing enough and will get eaten alive in the playoffs. This isn’t a hot take after a couple of losses either.

If the organization does that at this point you can kiss any type of long term success goodbye.

 

[DanielBrassard]

I'm at the point where the only move I would make is for a guy like Chychrun who can be here for a while. This team isn't good enough to spend assets on guys like Miller who will only be here through 2023.

 

[bbny]

I’ll tell ya what, I can see this team adding 2 forwards and bumping Laf and Kakko outta the top 6 for the playoff run and adding another d. The organization wants to win now. Too many kids on d and Laf and Kakko aren’t producing enough and will get eaten alive in the playoffs. This isn’t a hot take after a couple of losses either.

I agree. They essentially would need two RWs right now to push all the shit down at forward.

Kreider - Zib - RW1
Panarin - Strome - RW2
Lafreniere - Goodrow - Kakko , I've wanted a line like this forever now with Goodrow anchoring two kids
Barron - Rooney - Reaves/Gauthier

Chytil gone in a trade for one of the RWs.

On defense, they need a legit top 4 LD to move KAM down. KAM is simply not a quality top 4 D yet, but he'd be fine on the 3rd pair.

It's a lot of moves to complete in one deadline.

 

[Paulie Walnutz]

I agree. They essentially would need two RWs right now to push all the shit down at forward.

Kreider - Zib - RW1
Panarin - Strome - RW2
Lafreniere - Goodrow - Kakko , I've wanted a line like this forever now with Goodrow anchoring two kids
Barron - Rooney - Reaves/Gauthier

Chytil gone in a trade for one of the RWs.

On defense, they need a legit top 4 LD to move KAM down. KAM is simply not a quality top 4 D yet, but he'd be fine on the 3rd pair.

It's a lot of moves to complete in one deadline.

It’s clear as day Dolan wants to win now. I really can see Drury going out and getting 2 forwards and pushing Laf and Kakko down.

 

[Rangeri]

Is there consensus amongst the Rangers fans about J.T. Miller?

Canucks fans seems little aggressive over this in the boards and demanding, when I personally don't care about this trade at all.

 

[savebyrichter94]

Is there consensus amongst the Rangers fans about J.T. Miller?

Canucks fans seems little aggressive over this in the boards and demanding, when I personally don't care about this trade at all.

If they insist on getting greedy they can start adding Pettersson or Boeser to the deal otherwise get bent

 

[rangersfansince08]

Is there consensus amongst the Rangers fans about J.T. Miller?

Canucks fans seems little aggressive over this in the boards and demanding, when I personally don't care about this trade at all.

They think they are getting a 1st + Laf + Braden.

 

[savebyrichter94]

They think they are getting a 1st + Laf + Braden.

People are crazy but I guess every fan base is guilty of it to some degree, that being said I’m not giving up similar or in some cases better assets than what it would’ve cost for previously available players of higher quality

Teams don’t trade a 1st overall and 19th pick from the same draft two years ago for a guy who’s probably gonna walk to free agency after next season

 

[egelband]

It’s clear as day Dolan wants to win now. I really can see Drury going out and getting 2 forwards and pushing Laf and Kakko down.

I could see them adding a Kessel and one other top sixer on an expiring deal. Maybe even Eric Staal. Makes sense. Surely the FO considers this a year to take a shot. Doubt they do anything crazy - or at least I hope they don’t - but they’re certainly not being conservative.

 

[Savant]

correct. There was a large contingent of us on here that wanted him at the reduced price.
We also lacked any kind of grit/balls at the time as well.
That just like PLD was a big missed opportunity from gorts

I mean Gorton had his faults but he was never going to beat the Laine/Roslovic (who is from Columbus) offer for PLD. Can’t get too mad about that, Winnipeg gave a ton up.