Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXXIV

[NYR Viper]

Why is Barron going anywhere. Seriously.

Although maybe with Gettinger scoring 19 points in 23 games in the AHL at 23 years old, there are teams who may want to see him at the NHL level. That's a distinct possibility.

What's wild is that Gettinger is only 8 months older than Barron so he's not exactly old.

 

[Chalfdiggity3]

What happen to Nemeth? Is he on IR? I read somewhere he is not on the roster

Hes out for personal reasons but honestly its better that he isnt here. He sucks

 

[duhmetreE]

Why is Barron going anywhere. Seriously.

Although maybe with Gettinger scoring 19 points in 23 games in the AHL at 23 years old, there are teams who may want to see him at the NHL level. That's a distinct possibility.

What's wild is that Gettinger is only 8 months older than Barron so he's not exactly old.

It's Turk things.

The issue last night was obviously Barron

 

[haohmaru]

Lets get JT Miller and corner the market with left wings.

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[SA16]

I think from a quantitative point of view, it's fair to say outrageous, but you have to look at qualitative aspects as well. I mentioned some of them previously, but you also have to consider that he's playing on a top PP unit in the NHL and getting most of his goals from the premier PP QB in the world right now, who is only getting better. Further, so many of his goals come from 2 ft in front of the net, he's not shooting from the outside this season. Hes deflecting and banging pucks into open nets. Can definitely explain some of why his shooting % is so high. I get your point, and I see what you're saying from a quantitative perspective, but that's only a piece of the picture.

I think everything you said does explain why he is scoring on a lot of shots and I would expect him to be well above average but he's not the only player in the league to have this role. The fact that there was an enormous drop off in Y2 from every other player who has shot like this really says most of it to me. Joe Pavelski is the main other guy who is really good at this net front/deflections role and he's only had four years over 20% on the PP. I think if you are expecting him to keep scoring at this rate you are going to end up disappointed.

 

[NYR Viper]

It's Turk things.

The issue last night was obviously Barron

I mean I can understand wanting to get Gettinger some games. He has been a good soldier and the guy is not a bad player. I said it before the season but I could see him carving out a NHL career as a 4th liner and PKer. He skates fine, has decent hands and as the game slows down a bit for him at this level he has a decent physical game.

I could see him and Reunanen being guys who could use a fresh start somewhere and who are dealt for those depth pieces at the deadline. Be it someone like Jarnkrok, or whoever. They could probably both be playing somewhere in the NHL.

 

[Fitzy]

Barron's not waiver exempt next season I believe, so possibly like Sauer and Gauthier that will be his make it or break it camp.

 

[Vitto79]

Barron's not waiver exempt next season I believe, so possibly like Sauer and Gauthier that will be his make it or break it camp.

are they not exempt the entire entry level unless X games hit ? Doubt Barron has hit that but he should be on the team anyway

 

[JohnC]

Barron's not waiver exempt next season I believe, so possibly like Sauer and Gauthier that will be his make it or break it camp.

Unless I'm reading Cap Friendly wrong (I might be) Barron still has 1 more year (or 57 games) of waiver eligibility after this year?

 

[Kovalev27]

Have a feeling Chytil may be back and that might push Barron out of the lineup

 

[Mac n Gs]

Outrageous is a bizarre way to explain that, considering he's actually on pace for 55, halfway through the season. He's not getting lucky bounces either. He's been a streaky player his whole career and all of a sudden he's become Mr. Reliable. It may seem odd to some, but power forwards hitting their prime in their late 20's is actually more common then you think. Do I think he'll be a perennial 50 goal scorer? No, but to expect to only need to replace 25 a season going forward is just as "outrageous" in my opinion.

Ok, but if you ignore the language used, what do you think you can expect moving forward from Kreider? Scoring about 25 goals is in line with his career norm, and it accounts for the unlikely scenario that he’ll continue to shoot ~40% on the powerplay. I tried to compare him to Pavelski since they’re the top two netfront PP players in the league, and Pavelski never had a PP shooting% this high.

None of what SA is saying is trying to knock Kreider either. It’s not easy to score 25+ goals in the NHL, and Kreider has become one of the better support goal scorers in the league.

edit: woops, I didn’t see any of the other posts on this topic before writing this

 

[wafflepadsave]

Why is Barron going anywhere. Seriously.

Although maybe with Gettinger scoring 19 points in 23 games in the AHL at 23 years old, there are teams who may want to see him at the NHL level. That's a distinct possibility.

What's wild is that Gettinger is only 8 months older than Barron so he's not exactly old.

What is a female baron?

 

[wafflepadsave]

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Did you find Hank’s ceremony on espn?

 

[MrAlmost]

What is a female baron?

Baroness. Great band.

 

[pld459666]

I think he's having an Adam Graves season, but 30 is still very well within his normal wheelhouse. He'd have hit it a 3 more times in otherwise full 82 game seasons.

Part of his issues career wise is the not playing in full seasons.

Covid related or otherwise

 

[pld459666]

Why? He’s effectively paced for 30 every year since he’s had the blood clot (3 years) until this year when he actually broke the mark.

We shall see

 

[bbny]

Have a feeling Chytil may be back and that might push Barron out of the lineup

I think it’s probably this. Chytil back at 3C, and they aren’t taking Rooney out at 4C. So Barron is the odd man out.

 

[pld459666]

Why? He's been on a 30 goal pace several times in his career. Staying healthy long enough to get it has been the problem.

As he gets older, the health issues are more likely to surface, not decrease.

 

[rangers1314]

Friedman says Ryan Martin is on the list for Anaheim GM.

 

[Mac n Gs]

Friedman says Ryan Martin is on the list for Anaheim GM.

He can’t leave yet. It’s been way too soon, and I don’t have enough ammo for whether or not we can blame him for player development and how things are going in Hartford

 

[Thirty One]

He can’t leave yet. It’s been way too soon, and I don’t have enough ammo for whether or not we can blame him for player development and how things are going in Hartford

Let's just blame him just in case.

 

[leetch99]

But then the question is, how do you replace that 45 goals with the same amount of money? You really can't. He'd have insane value at his current AAV.

Between Laf and whoever is in the 3rd line spot and the emergence of Kakko and whomever we add at the 2nd line spot on RW...that will cover Kreider's goals . It might not be exact....but it will be darn close .

 

[PalmCoastRanger]

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I've heard of helicopter lines - no wings, but what do you call those lines? The B2 stealth bomber line?

 

[haohmaru]

Did you find Hank’s ceremony on espn?

I did - thank you sir!

 

[leetch99]

Let's just blame him just in case.

Plus it's an easy name to spell unlike some of them new ones we have.....for some reason Hajek gets me all the time and I keep thinking Selma Hayek....maybe it has nothing to do with the spelling ?