Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXXIV

[mas0764]

We don’t have the cap for that anytime in the next few years.

We do once we move Trouba and/or Kreider, which as Edge has said, is under discussion.

 

[IDvsEGO]

We do once we move Trouba and/or Kreider, which as Edge has said, is under discussion.

Which is in 3 years. As they’ve got nmc’s

 

[mas0764]

Seems like Drury overpays in every aspect. Can't wait for his future moves

I don't understand how people dismiss this so routinely.

He has not been great with extensions so far.

 

[mas0764]

Which is in 3 years. As they’ve got nmc’s

Probably will be less; Edge again insinuated that approaching them about their NMCs is not impossible or even extremely unlikely.

 

[landsbergfan]

Has Kreider been playing the right side at all this year?

 

[rangers1314]

But maybe he can be coaxed to, playing with a player who is trying to set him up.

He's played with our 4 best players this season, and while I have no way of proving this, I'd bet everything I have that the coaching staff has been like "yo man you need to shoot more. You can't stick handle into the net".

 

[mas0764]

He's played with our 4 best players this season, and while I have no way of proving this, I'd bet everything I have that the coaching staff has been like "yo man you need to shoot more. You can't stick handle into the net".

But he was good with Panarin and Strome before.

He doesn't fit with Kreider and Zibanejad because they are both shooters. Kreider in particular is no great shakes as a set up man at all.

 

[tomobson]

But maybe he can be coaxed to, playing with a player who is trying to set him up.

That wasn't happening much when he was playing with Strome earlier in the season. If you don't stand in front of the net like a mannequin Strome and Panarin will vote you off the island.

 

[mas0764]

That wasn't happening much when he was playing with Strome earlier in the season. If you don't stand in front of the net like a mannequin Strome and Panarin will vote you off the island.

I seem to remember Kakko playing well with Strome and Panarin.

 

[rangers1314]

But he was good with Panarin and Strome before.

He doesn't fit with Kreider and Zibanejad because they are both shooters. Kreider in particular is no great shakes as a set up man at all.

I agree that he should be back with 10-16, moving him off that line is one of the stranger decisions GG has made this season.

That being said, he still wasn't shooting enough when he was on that line. He's gotta break the european habit of thinking "I have time". You don't. And the only way you beat goalies in this league is to get the thing off your stick the moment it hits your blade.

Once (IF) he figures that out, he's golden.

 

[mas0764]

This deadline is big for Drury. I think the only way he can really fail is if he stands pat, but he’s got to get the additions he makes to have an impact

I give him a solid B+ if he stands pat.

 

[IDvsEGO]

I give him a solid B+ if he stands pat.

We’re a top 6 nhl team right now, a minor addition / doing nothing is simply a vote of confidence.

 

[tomobson]

I seem to remember Kakko playing well with Strome and Panarin.

Kakko has been playing ok with whoever he lines up with but he has not played well with anyone yet this season. He had a good stretch of games when we had the easiest schedule in the league that also spilled over when he got moved to the Mika line. He played very well with Mika until the schedule got tougher. During that same period Laf/Chytil/Goat looked unstoppable and played better than the top two lines but I'm not dying to put them back together either.

 

[rangers1314]

Gallant confirms is Geo tonight

 

[mas0764]

We see how hard it is to get impact young players on ELC's. The Rangers have had a lot of high draft picks and guys like Andersson, Lindbom, heck even Chytil and Lundkvist are taking their time to develop. I think it's important for people to understand that by dropping 1st's and 2nd's like candy, the chances of finding good young players only goes down. This team isn't done rebuilding yet. Yes they are competitive which is fantastic, but they need to keep the steady stream of picks coming, not deplete that pipeline.

Winner.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Gallant confirms is Geo tonight

Thank God
I’d be so mad if Shesterkin didn’t play Hank night

 

[Kovalev27]

A Vezina Candidate
A Norris Winner
A Hart Candidate
A Rocket RICHARD Candidate
An All Star #1 Center
A 70 pt 2nd line Center
A Beast of a #2 Dman in Trouba

first place at the half way point in the toughest division.

you better believe we’re a contender and are going to load up

 

[mas0764]

We’re a top 6 nhl team right now, a minor addition / doing nothing is simply a vote of confidence.

Which is fine with me.

 

[wafflepadsave]

That's why I think Drury holds onto him. We can't give away another top10 pick.

If they believe he can become a good player, keep him. Figure out the nonsense. If they don't know, maybe he's worth a couple 2nds or a big part of a JTM package

Is there any possibility that anyone in front office thinks the Rangers over estimated on some of their 1st round picks? Clearly over the years the whole drafting side of hockey has missed on draft prospects. This hoping our kids can still put it together but I am concerned. Still think everyone of them should have gone back for more development.

 

[Fitzy]

On the one hand, I think this team really needs a preliminary postseason appearance to highlight what the deficiencies are before we go looking to jam square pegs into possibly round holes.

On the other, you can point to a couple glaring and obvious needs the team has.

1) A right wing for Panarin and Strome
2) A more reliable #5 defenseman
3) Someone to stabilize the third line

I'd just as soon keep the rentals cheap this year. If Kravtsov returns, give him a shot with Panarin and Strome. Play Laf-Goodrow-Chytil as a third line and see if it sticks.

The one thing I would do is shop around for an affordable Nemeth replacement. Holden went as a rental for Ogara and a 3rd, McQuaid for a 4th rounder, so I'm sure we can get some 3rd pairing guy as a rental for say, Reunanen and a 5th and call it a deadline.

 

[mas0764]

Add Kravtsov, Reilly Smith, and a cheap depth defenseman. For sake of argument let's call it Giordano. Get healthy.

Panarin - Zibanejad - Kreider
Lafreniere - Strome - Kakko
Kravtsov - Chytil - Smith
Goodrow - Rooney - Hunt/Reaves

Lindgren - Fox
Miller - Trouba
Giordano - Lundkvist/Schneider

 

[DialUp]

A Vezina Candidate
A Norris Winner
A Hart Candidate
A Rocket RICHARD Candidate
An All Star #1 Center
A 70 pt 2nd line Center
A Beast of a #2 Dman in Trouba

first place at the half way point in the toughest division.

you better believe we’re a contender and are going to load up

Even with ALL that, ESPN Great Greg Wyshynski ranks the Rangers in his third tier of cup contenders (bundling them behind MIN and ahead of WASH) in his latest pay-walled article.

Notable teams this dude ranks in the tier ahead of the Rangers, who as you have noted above includes multiple all-NHL players, are Nashville, Boston and my personal favorite to make the ECF Pittsburgh.

 

[Pawnee Rangers]

It's a step back but you have to come to grips with the fact that it's a choice between two bad decisions and the one with better short term consequences isn't always the right decision.

Not trading Chytil right now is a bad decision? How so? And there's no more step backs. You need to come to grips with that.

 

[Alluckks]

Chytil + Lundkvist + Pajuniemi + 1st for Chychrun
Kravstov for Lehkonen + 3rd
Gauthier for Jarnkrok
Hajek for Debrusk

Kreider Zib Panarin
Laf Strome Lehkonen
Jarnkrok Goodrow Kakko
Debrusk Rooney Reaves/Hunt

Lindgren Fox
Chychrun Trouba
Miller Schneider

 

[Pawnee Rangers]

On the one hand, I think this team really needs a preliminary postseason appearance to highlight what the deficiencies are before we go looking to jam square pegs into possibly round holes.

On the other, you can point to a couple glaring and obvious needs the team has.

1) A right wing for Panarin and Strome
2) A more reliable #5 defenseman
3) Someone to stabilize the third line

I'd just as soon keep the rentals cheap this year. If Kravtsov returns, give him a shot with Panarin and Strome. Play Laf-Goodrow-Chytil as a third line and see if it sticks.

The one thing I would do is shop around for an affordable Nemeth replacement. Holden went as a rental for Ogara and a 3rd, McQuaid for a 4th rounder, so I'm sure we can get some 3rd pairing guy as a rental for say, Reunanen and a 5th and call it a deadline.

I have a hard time believing Gallant would throw Kravtsov in the top 6 for the playoffs. He's as soft as baby poo. But I love your third line.