Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXXIII

[Oscar Lindberg]

There's room for a modestly priced 2C ($5 ish million), and Kane at 2.5 million for next season if the Rangers pay Chicago and another team (Arizona) to eat cap for 2022-23 if you also bridge Kakko and Miller.

You’re probably trading one of those two to get Patrick Kane. They’re not letting him go and retaining money for a package of scrubs

 

[TominNC]

The Rangers trading Buchnevich for salary reasons and getting bent over in the trade and then turning around and paying a premium for another winger in Patrick Kane would be laughable

Cap space, etc was different at beginning of year and now.

 

[Richard Banger]

Kane doesn't win faceoffs and doesn't do board battles.

If you want to sell jerseys and make headlines, that's a move. But from a substance point of view, how does he make the team better/strengthen deficiencies?

Having one of the best scorers of this generation does in fact improve your team. Crazy right?

 

[KOVALEV022473]

Kane doesn't win faceoffs and doesn't do board battles.

If you want to sell jerseys and make headlines, that's a move. But from a substance point of view, how does he make the team better/strengthen deficiencies?

Nonsense! How does he help our even strengthen play?!? He’s scores f***ing goals, that’s how.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Cap space, etc was different at beginning of year and now.

They need another high priced wing like a hole in the head

And the cost to acquire isn’t going to be worth it

 

[Trxjw]

You’re probably trading one of those two to get Patrick Kane. They’re not letting him go and retaining money for a package of scrubs

If Drury trades either of those guys for 15 months of Patrick Kane he needs to be dragged out to center ice and beaten.

 

[KOVALEV022473]

If Drury trades either of those guys for 15 months of Patrick Kane he needs to be dragged out to center ice and beaten.

Will you say this if we happen to win the cup?

 

[GAGLine]

Cap space, etc was different at beginning of year and now.

This year's cap space had nothing to do with why Buch was traded. We could have easily afforded that contract this year. Next year is when it would have been a problem.

 

[LORDE]

This better be BS

I like Kane... a lot but the fit isn't there at all... position, contract, age, stage of rebuild... quality of true front runners

 

[TheDirtyH]

Will you say this if we happen to win the cup?

If that happens then Drury gets to punch everybody who beat him up in the nuts and we all call it even

 

[ecemleafs]

Having one of the best scorers of this generation does in fact improve your team. Crazy right?

but faceoffs!!!

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Kane would be a Sather move if I’ve ever seen one. Acquiring a big name even though it’s for a position they don’t need

Would certainly tickle Dolan, probably one of the low percentage of players he probably knows their name

 

[KOVALEV022473]

This year's cap space had nothing to do with why Buch was traded. We could have easily afforded that contract this year. Next year is when it would have been a problem.

I don’t really understand why fans concern themselves so much with the cap? The organization has people in place that deal with that single issue specifically. If they can make a move work they will, if they can’t, they won’t. The incessant bickering over cap implications is tedious at best, and in my opinion, the team should assemble the best team they can, year after year, and not deal in perpetual rebuilds with championships that may never come just because….a Youth.

 

[NoQuitInNewMexico]

I have a very specific cap nitpick; I think Kakko is in the absolute perfect spot to get an offer sheet from like...the Devils? Kraken? Pick a team with cap space who sucks, and it'll be hard for us to pay up and do everything else we want to do in the offseason.

 

[Trxjw]

Will you say this if we happen to win the cup?

Yeah because the difference between this team and a cup is more offense.

 

[DanielBrassard]

I don't think the price will be that high for Kane. Could be wrong but we will see. The big question will be if the Rangers get double retention.

 

[KOVALEV022473]

Kane would be a Sather move if I’ve ever seen one. Acquiring a big name even though it’s for a position they don’t need

Would certainly tickle Dolan, probably one of the low percentage of players he probably knows their name

We traded our second line RW and the replacements haven’t done shit.

 

[GAGLine]

I don’t really understand why fans concern themselves so much with the cap? The organization has people in place that deal with that single issue specifically. If they can make a move work they will, if they can’t, they won’t. The incessant bickering over cap implications is tedious at best, and in my opinion, the team should assemble the best team they can, year after year, and not deal in perpetual rebuilds with championships that may never come just because….a Youth.

There's no magic involved with the cap. It's just math. Saying they'll figure it out later is just turning a blind eye to the issue.

Regardless, Drury traded Buch rather than pay him and then trade him a year later. That was management's answer to this issue. Saying they can now add Kane and figure it out later flies in the face of what they have already done.

Are you honestly going to tell me that you'd rather have Kane at 25 or 50% rather than Buch and the boatload of assets it will take to get Kane at that price? What exactly are you prepared to give up for Kane? Because it's going to take a lot.

 

[ThirdEye]

The Rangers trading Buchnevich for salary reasons and getting bent over in the trade and then turning around and paying a premium for another winger in Patrick Kane would be laughable

As much as I like Buch, Kane is a HOF and one of the best playoff performers of his generation. Buch has 1 point in 8 playoff games

With said, I'm supremely against the move unless we can get him for cheap. But given that he's still putting up absurd #'s why the hell would Chicago give him away for cheap

 

[KOVALEV022473]

Yeah because the difference between this team and a cup is more offense.

It’s not? What’s our biggest issue? Because I thought is was 5v5 scoring?

 

[IDvsEGO]

I have a very specific cap nitpick; I think Kakko is in the absolute perfect spot to get an offer sheet from like...the Devils? Kraken? Pick a team with cap space who sucks, and it'll be hard for us to pay up and do everything else we want to do in the offseason.

The risk any team takes in offersheeting kakko (especially one like the kraken or the devils) is that what you're giving up are completely unprotected picks. Ignoring the cap implications, if the devils got kakko via an offersheet, then the rangers would at minimum get their 2023 first. The risk is too big, especially for kakko who hasnt broken out yet.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Having one of the best scorers of this generation does in fact improve your team. Crazy right?

Was one of the best scorers of his generation. Now he's more of an assist guy.

 

[NoQuitInNewMexico]

The risk any team takes in offersheeting kakko (especially one like the kraken or the devils) is that what you're giving up are completely unprotected picks. Ignoring the cap implications, if the devils got kakko via an offersheet, then the rangers would at minimum get their 2023 first. The risk is too big, especially for kakko who hasnt broken out yet.

You can give him 4.1M and only give up a second round pick, that's not a huge cap hit but it's way ahead of his production

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

Kane does seem like a Sather/NYR move but the good news is Pagnotta doesn't know anything.

Even actually NYR connected writers like Brooks, Staple, Mercogliano clearly all got bcc'd on the same email last week ahead of all putting out the exact same article 3 times.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Yet another moronic goaltending decision from the coach