Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXXIII - 2 months until TDL

[mas0764]

Definitely not trustworthy though, he said the same thing about Eichel lol

Fair enough but the Rangers really did make the better offer for Eichel and the Sabres just didn't want to deal him here.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Fair enough but the Rangers really did make the better offer for Eichel and the Sabres just didn't want to deal him here.

They did?

 

[MrAlmost]

So is this just a re-aggravation of the same shoulder issue from earlier in the season for KK?

He took a hard hit along the near side boards that looked like it gave him some trouble. I would put my money on that play.

 

[mas0764]

I'm worried about the Kotkaniemi-style offer sheet with Kakko. Guess the Canes were in a unique position because they had so much cap, and they were so secure that they would be good this year.

The only thing about this is that what goes around comes around, so any team trying to steal Kakko better be ready for retribution.

 

[mas0764]

They did?

In my opinion, based on what Vince reported, hell yeah.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

I think if Strome takes a penny under $5m I will be shocked. And that $5m would be on a LONG deal, think like 6-7 years.

Me too. Hope he gets that then from some other team, but none of those teams will have Panarin on it. How much is it worth it to him to ride with this team?

 

[Shesterkybomb]

This is a distinct possibility as well. Would the team be okay with Barron starting the season as their 2C?

You were gonna put Domi at 2c? Biiiiiig no thanks. I dont know if Barron ever becomes a 2c on a good team but should be a good 3c. I feel that Strome is gonna be here for a while.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

I'm worried about the Kotkaniemi-style offer sheet with Kakko. Guess the Canes were in a unique position because they had so much cap, and they were so secure that they would be good this year.

The Canes offer sheeted him because the Habs offer sheeted Aho. Unless I'm mistaken the last time the Rangers threatened to offersheet someone was Shea Weber in 2012, so I think we're in the clear.

 

[Fitzy]

Wonder if one of Fox or Lindgren is the guy who is banged up.

 

[Savant]

The Canes offer sheeted him because the Habs offer sheeted Aho. Unless I'm mistaken the last time the Rangers threatened to offersheet someone was Shea Weber in 2012, so I think we're in the clear.

The Canes also offer sheeted him because they liked the player. Everyone seems to forget Kotkaniemi is actually good

 

[Shesterkybomb]

The Canes offer sheeted him because the Habs offer sheeted Aho. Unless I'm mistaken the last time the Rangers threatened to offersheet someone was Shea Weber in 2012, so I think we're in the clear.

Habs should have had him under contract, and we should too

 

[bleedblue94]

The Canes offer sheeted him because the Habs offer sheeted Aho. Unless I'm mistaken the last time the Rangers threatened to offersheet someone was Shea Weber in 2012, so I think we're in the clear.

This is a false narrative. It's has been widely reported that the canes tried to trade for him before they offer sheeted him. If this was about retribution than why did they tried to trade for him?

 

[rangers1314]

This 2 week break can't get here soon enough.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

The Canes also offer sheeted him because they liked the player. Everyone seems to forget Kotkaniemi is actually good

Yes....but spite what the major factor in why it was done. Right down to the signing bonus and the tweets that followed from the Canes themselves.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

This is a false narrative. It's has been widely reported that the canes tried to trade for him before they offer sheeted him. If this was about retribution than why did they tried to trade for him?

Nothing is false about that. They wrote the spite directly into the contract itself.

 

[SA16]

Here are the 2C on the teams with 50+ points this year:

Bennett - 4.4M
Cirelli - 4.8M
Kadri - 4.5M
Strome - 4.5M
Malkin - 9.5M
Trocheck - 4.8M
Barbashev 2.25M or Thomas 2.8M
Backstrom - 9.2M
Johansen - 8M
Tavares - 11M
Hartman 1.7M/Eriksson Ek 5.2M/Gaudreau 1.2M take your pick
Haula - 2.4M
Karlsson 5.9M or Stephenson 2.75M

You don't need a big expensive 2C. Most teams don't have one. 4-5M range is pretty typical. You can also do cheaper. Spending money to upgrade Strome to have a better 2C to center Panarin, who doesn't need it, is an absolute waste. We should be looking for someone in the 2-3M range to fill in that role and let it ride.

 

[duhmetreE]

I'm worried about the Kotkaniemi-style offer sheet with Kakko. Guess the Canes were in a unique position because they had so much cap, and they were so secure that they would be good this year.

The only reason that happened is because of Montreal offer-sheeting Aho.

If that didn't happen, KK would still be a Canadian

 

[NYR Viper]

You were gonna put Domi at 2c? Biiiiiig no thanks. I dont know if Barron ever becomes a 2c on a good team but should be a good 3c. I feel that Strome is gonna be here for a while.

This goes out to more than just you, I wasn't saying Domi specifically, he was just the recent subject of who may be available at that price point.

 

[NYR Viper]

Wonder if one of Fox or Lindgren is the guy who is banged up.

My guess is it's Lindgren who came off quickly after a hit late in the game

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

If so, can I give Arizona 2-3 pieces for Lundell?

Yes! I was thinking the same thing

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

In my opinion, based on what Vince reported, hell yeah.

What was reported?

 

[NYR Viper]

Here are the 2C on the teams with 50+ points this year:

Bennett - 4.4M
Cirelli - 4.8M
Kadri - 4.5M
Strome - 4.5M
Malkin - 9.5M
Trocheck - 4.8M
Barbashev 2.25M or Thomas 2.8M
Backstrom - 9.2M
Johansen - 8M
Tavares - 11M
Hartman 1.7M/Eriksson Ek 5.2M/Gaudreau 1.2M take your pick
Haula - 2.4M
Karlsson 5.9M or Stephenson 2.75M

You don't need a big expensive 2C. Most teams don't have one. 4-5M range is pretty typical. You can also do cheaper. Spending money to upgrade Strome to have a better 2C to center Panarin, who doesn't need it, is an absolute waste. We should be looking for someone in the 2-3M range to fill in that role and let it ride.

It's not that it's impossible, but three of the guys on this list are going to get raises as they were on medium term deals that are now up and are seen as 'team friendly' right now in Kadri, Strome and Trochek. That skews the list a bit.

What's is important to understand is the Rangers don't have someone like this they can sign for just money more than likely. Look at the UFA list, it's not a great list in the salary range we are discussing. The next option is to trade for someone and while that's an option, the guys who produce at this range have a high value to their teams for good reason, which means the cost will be high to acquire them in terms of assets.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Here are the 2C on the teams with 50+ points this year:

Bennett - 4.4M
Cirelli - 4.8M
Kadri - 4.5M
Strome - 4.5M
Malkin - 9.5M
Trocheck - 4.8M
Barbashev 2.25M or Thomas 2.8M
Backstrom - 9.2M
Johansen - 8M
Tavares - 11M
Hartman 1.7M/Eriksson Ek 5.2M/Gaudreau 1.2M take your pick
Haula - 2.4M
Karlsson 5.9M or Stephenson 2.75M

You don't need a big expensive 2C. Most teams don't have one. 4-5M range is pretty typical. You can also do cheaper. Spending money to upgrade Strome to have a better 2C to center Panarin, who doesn't need it, is an absolute waste. We should be looking for someone in the 2-3M range to fill in that role and let it ride.

Agree if it allows us to get Chychrun but still pessimistic on The Who?

 

[pld459666]

They did?

Considering what they accepted, it's not really a stretch

 

[DanielBrassard]

At this rate Kakko's going to be on a minimum qualifier contract next season without arbitration.

Unironically this might very well happen