Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXXIII - 2 months until TDL

[mas0764]

Rangers trade Chytil and Hajek to Bruins for DeBrusk and Frederic??? Close in value????

Why do the Rangers want either of those players?

 

[Hire Sather]

It's going to be interesting when we aren't going to find someone as good as Ryan Strome to replace the player who everyone hates, Ryan Strome.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Huska called to the taxi squad

This better not be a sign that Shesterkin is injured again. He needs to be more durable.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I'm not saying he is perfect, but that is the tier of guy we are probably going to need to look at. Everyone in that price range is going to have warts.

Sure, but not the warts that Domi has.

 

[Hire Sather]

No Kakko or Chytil at the #NYR morning skate today.

 

[mas0764]

This guy, I tell ya, he gets it.

The prices are at least reasonable for players at this level.

 

[mas0764]

Would we do Kravtsov, a first, Nils (right D) and Robertson (left D) for Chychrun? Makes the farm look much emptier, but add a very good D.

I wouldn't.

 

[duhmetreE]

So I ran this on capfriendly to give everyone an idea of what I'm talking about:

Trades:
Chytil + Kravtsov + Nemeth + NYR 1st
for
Chychrun + Hayton

Georgiev
for
EDM 2nd '23 + 5th '22 + Koskinen


Off-season signings:
Kaako - 2 years @ $3m
Blais - 3 years @ $1.65m
Gauthier - 1 year @ $900k
Hajek - 1 year @ $950k
Domi - 2 years @ $3.5m
Hayton - 1 year @ $1.15m

Tinordi waived

Kreider-Zibanejad-Panarin
Lafreniere-Domi-Kaako
Goodrow-Hayton-Blais
Hunt-Barron-Reaves
Gauthier

Chychrun-Trouba
Lindgren-Fox
Miller-Schneider
Hajek

Shesty
_____


This lineup gives us about $800k in cap space with a cap @ $82.5m (increase of $1m from this season)

I think this could work if they shave some money off somewhere or carry only 1 spare to bring in a decent backup but it's tight even at $3.5m for Domi (or any other 2C).

We just need to understand that if they add Chychrun, barring a trade of a higher salary core piece (Trouba or Kreider), that 2C slot is going to need to be someone with some warts more than likely or they are going to have to pay through the nose to bring in someone either underpaid or on a ELC which will not be cheap.

Honestly not a fan of that middle6 C. Do not like Domi as a fit. Hayton is an unknown. That has the potential to make us really weak and bad down the middle. Still see Strome getting re-signed.

Kakko got too much, he hasn't done anything more than Chytil, I'd expect him to get Chytils bridge.

I'd love our defensive group if we added Chychrun though.

 

[mas0764]

Agreed on Miller. Have to think if he was on the table it would be close to a no-brainer for Arizona. Id guess the situation is now 1. How do we bridge the gap between Lundkvist & KAM value wise and 2. Is another team willing to beat the Rangers offer.

It would be a big mistake for Florida to trade Lundell, but the Yotes need to pounce if they offer him imo

If so, can I give Arizona 2-3 pieces for Lundell?

 

[TheBloodyNine]

So I ran this on capfriendly to give everyone an idea of what I'm talking about:

Trades:
Chytil + Kravtsov + Nemeth + NYR 1st
for
Chychrun + Hayton

Georgiev
for
EDM 2nd '23 + 5th '22 + Koskinen


Off-season signings:
Kaako - 2 years @ $3m
Blais - 3 years @ $1.65m
Gauthier - 1 year @ $900k
Hajek - 1 year @ $950k
Domi - 2 years @ $3.5m
Hayton - 1 year @ $1.15m

Tinordi waived

Kreider-Zibanejad-Panarin
Lafreniere-Domi-Kaako
Goodrow-Hayton-Blais
Hunt-Barron-Reaves
Gauthier

Chychrun-Trouba
Lindgren-Fox
Miller-Schneider
Hajek

Shesty
_____


This lineup gives us about $800k in cap space with a cap @ $82.5m (increase of $1m from this season)

I think this could work if they shave some money off somewhere or carry only 1 spare to bring in a decent backup but it's tight even at $3.5m for Domi (or any other 2C).

We just need to understand that if they add Chychrun, barring a trade of a higher salary core piece (Trouba or Kreider), that 2C slot is going to need to be someone with some warts more than likely or they are going to have to pay through the nose to bring in someone either underpaid or on a ELC which will not be cheap.

Cut out Domi, Hajek and Gauthier signings and now you have their additionally 5.35 for a center, less the cost of a 7th guy who could just come from in house.

 

[NYR Viper]

Or just play Barron....wartless, costs nothing

This is a distinct possibility as well. Would the team be okay with Barron starting the season as their 2C?

 

[Crease]

No Kakko or Chytil at the #NYR morning skate today.

Chytil is so injury prone.

Kakko missing the skate makes me think his missing last game was actually injury related, and not cover for being scratched.

 

[NYR Viper]

Honestly not a fan of that middle6 C. Do not like Domi as a fit. Hayton is an unknown. That has the potential to make us really weak and bad down the middle. Still see Strome getting re-signed.

Kakko got too much, he hasn't done anything more than Chytil, I'd expect him to get Chytils bridge.

I'd love our defensive group if we added Chychrun though.

I'm not in love with it either. perhaps there are ways to save some money somewhere but it's important to note, that if they sign Strome for even $5m, or $1.5m more than what Domi or that placeholder at 2C was shown to have received, then they are about $900k over the cap WITHOUT a backup signed. Maybe they squeeze Kaako or let Blais walk (this seems like a bad idea) but they would still need to squeeze out about $2m somewhere to make that work.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

Chychrun may not fit the NYR needs perfectly but he is a really good player on a very good contract. That is the kicker that makes me support giving up a chunk of the cupboard for him. I'm skeptical the NYR will end up the high bidders but they absolutely could get it done.

I'd rather deal a little more for a player who will be here for a long time then see the NYR chase the pure rental market with 75% of the cost of what they would have paid for Chychrun.

 

[duhmetreE]

Looks like Barron is in... hopefully they put him on the 3rd line

 

[NYR Viper]

Cut out Domi, Hajek and Gauthier signings and now you have their additionally 5.35 for a center, less the cost of a 7th guy who could just come from in house.

You would still need a backup goalie.

So with $800k in cap space, we remove Domi, that's now $4.3m in cap space.
Add in a backup goalie, say $1m, now we are at $3.3m in cap space.
remove Hajek and Guathier which adds $1.85m more so that's $5.15m
Now add in even a modest 7th d-man @ $0.9m and we are at $4.25m in cap space

So the 2c would need to come in at $4.25m per season or less and that would mean literally no cap space to start the season.

 

[duhmetreE]

I'm glad they're working on the PP and not 5v5 drills.

 

[NYR Viper]

Chychrun may not fit the NYR needs perfectly but he is a really good player on a very good contract. That is the kicker that makes me support giving up a chunk of the cupboard for him. I'm skeptical the NYR will end up the high bidders but they absolutely could get it done.

I'd rather deal a little more for a player who will be here for a long time then see the NYR chase the pure rental market with 75% of the cost of what they would have paid for Chychrun.

I have slowly come around to him as well for this very reason.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Definitely not trustworthy though, he said the same thing about Eichel lol

 

[duhmetreE]

Definitely not trustworthy though, he said the same thing about Eichel lol

Hopefully his track record continues..... of being wrong

 

[tomobson]

Laf/Strome/Kakko sounds like a big mistake to me. I'm not sure what that line is going to bring. They are going to need someone with a little more speed on the RW. I think Goodrow stays there unless they are willing to give Chytil or Goat a shot on that line. It'll be a shame because we really need Goodrow on the third line. Mix in Goodrow with Kakko on the third line and GG might finally have a third line he trusts enough to give more than 10 minutes a game, which I think would be a big help to the team. I'm definitely not buying that Strome and Kakko have any chemistry whatsoever. Besides two or three games Kakko looked horrendous on that Panarin/Strome/Kakko line. I do think Laf and Strome work together better but I still feel that Laf is just a little too slow in reading the game at the moment. Hopefully that changes as he plays more minutes. Rangers need Laf to wake up.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

You would still need a backup goalie.

So with $800k in cap space, we remove Domi, that's now $4.3m in cap space.
Add in a backup goalie, say $1m, now we are at $3.3m in cap space.
remove Hajek and Guathier which adds $1.85m more so that's $5.15m
Now add in even a modest 7th d-man @ $0.9m and we are at $4.25m in cap space

So the 2c would need to come in at $4.25m per season or less and that would mean literally no cap space to start the season.

And that 4.25m 2C is likely hometown discount Ryan Strome at that point.

The Rangers are going to need to get creative in order to truly upgrade their team.

 

[zlev]

Vally also said we were signing Danault so I don't think he's going off of any legitimate sources or anything

 

[Fitzy]

It's going to be interesting when we aren't going to find someone as good as Ryan Strome to replace the player who everyone hates, Ryan Strome.

It is but if you’ve got a solution that works with the cap and doesn’t involve jettisoning a better player than Strome to make room I’ve yet to see a convincing one.

 

[Hire Sather]

It is but if you’ve got a solution that works with the cap and doesn’t involve jettisoning a better player than Strome to make room I’ve yet to see a convincing one.

Agree, just saying a lot of people paint Strome as some awful player but he is going to be missed.