Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXXIII - 2 months until TDL

[DanielBrassard]

If the prospect is Kravtsov then that is too much.

What if they retained

 

[mas0764]

What if they retained

We don’t need retainer on that deal.

 

[Levitate]

If the prospect is Kravtsov then that is too much.

Eh...Kravtsov might never come back to the Rangers so if you can move him for a player like Chychrun then I think it's a win to do it.

 

[DanielBrassard]

We don’t need retainer on that deal.

Well we kind of do if we want a 2nd line center who costs more than like 3.5M next year.

 

[Kords]

riiiight it’s currency so meaning you trade them to make yourself better which you just said so that’s different than what your initial worry was about the cupboard being bare

I honestly don't understand this sentence. Not trying to be a jerk, but it makes no sense.

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

I honestly don't understand this sentence. Not trying to be a jerk, but it makes no sense.

I think what he's trying to say is:

riiiight it’s currency so meaning you trade them to make yourself better which you just said so that’s different than what your initial worry was about the cupboard being bare

Correct me if I'm mistaken

 

[Kovalev27]

I honestly don't understand this sentence. Not trying to be a jerk, but it makes no sense.

All I’m saying is you’re worrying about the cupboard being bare but acknowledging what I said that there isn’t room for most of those kids so they will have to go in a trade. So I’m not sure why you’re worrying about the cupboard being bare

 

[mas0764]

Eh...Kravtsov might never come back to the Rangers so if you can move him for a player like Chychrun then I think it's a win to do it.

Sure, but not also with KAM.

 

[Kords]

All I’m saying is you’re worrying about the cupboard being bare but acknowledging what I said that there isn’t room for most of those kids so they will have to go in a trade. So I’m not sure why you’re worrying about the cupboard being bare

Ahh, gotcha. My worry is that when you go to Disneyland, you don't spend all your money in the first hour. We may wanna buy some cotton candy later.

 

[Alluckks]

Trading K'andre+ for Chychrun doesn't feel like the right move

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Ahh, gotcha. My worry is that when you go to Disneyland, you don't spend all your money in the first hour. We may wanna buy some cotton candy later.

I'd normally agree with this, but the issue here is that they've already stuffed their faces full of Churros between Panarin, Trouba, Kreider and Zibanejad.

Whether or not those moves were wise is a different discussion but they've already happened. They have the space to make significant adds now and there are going to be cut backs that will need to happen in the near future no matter what direction they go in. It makes total sense to cash some of those chips now.

It's why you have a stocked system to begin with. Not everyone will play and you move the excess for pieces that you need.

On the flip side, It would behoove the Rangers to move some of their chips ASAP. A few of their prospects are about as valued as they're ever going to be.

 

[duhmetreE]

It’s not a pressing need but how often do you get a chance to add a premium player with a reasonable contract?

I'd argue it's a pressing need. We desperately need puck movers. It's one of the many aspects that need improvement on offense

 

[egelband]

Chychrun is better than many people here think. He’s absolutely a top pair D and would give this team a top 4 D that could rival anyone in the league.

Pair him with Trouba, who by the way is having an unbelievable season

Two Jacobs on the same pair?
impossible.
Think about the announcers…!

 

[duhmetreE]

I have no problem trading our prospects for NHL players as long as we keep our 1sts and continue to make those selections.

 

[kovazub94]

Imho Kessel is the answer to Mika and kreider. Move kakko back to the only line he was dominant on with strome and panarin

Then lafreniere chytil and goat.

Interesting way to spell Goodrow

 

[egelband]

Girardi
Staal
Skjei

these long term pricy deals for defensemen who aren’t strong offensively have quite the poor history

Yep. Like it or not, scoring from the back-end is the trend. Big guys who can skate and score and hit a bit are the ideal, these days.

 

[kovazub94]

Miller, a prospect and a pick.

Change Miller to Lundkvist and then figure out with Yotes on how to make it work.

 

[Kords]

I'd normally agree with this, but the issue here is that they've already stuffed their faces full of Churros between Panarin, Trouba, Kreider and Zibanejad.

Whether or not those moves were wise is a different discussion but they've already happened. They have the space to make significant adds now and there are going to be cut backs that will need to happen in the near future no matter what direction they go in. It makes total sense to cash some of those chips now.

It's why you have a stocked system to begin with. Not everyone will play and you move the excess for pieces that you need.

On the flip side, It would behoove the Rangers to move some of their chips ASAP. A few of their prospects are about as valued as they're ever going to be.

IDK, this is like saying "I already spent everything in my wallet, might as well empty my bank account too". The better point you make is assets depreciating value, and that is a very valid point I hadn't considered.

Either way, i'm not against either of those players. It's the idea of spending everything on both that makes me nervous. Grab one and go bargain shopping until the picture gets clearer.

 

[bobbop]

Change Miller to Lundkvist and then figure out with Yotes on how to make it work.

You are not going to get a premium player with spare parts.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

IDK, this is like saying "I already spent everything in my wallet, might as well empty my bank account too". The better point you make is assets depreciating value, and that is a very valid point I hadn't considered.

Either way, i'm not against either of those players. It's the idea of spending everything on both that makes me nervous. Grab one and go bargain shopping until the picture gets clearer.

I like the Chychrun idea since it's not just a move for this year and you're pretty much guaranteed to have him through his prime years. So while you're cashing in some of the chips, you're going to get a return that you can play for more than just a few months. That would be a move for now and later.

I understand the apprehension of doing some of the other stuff, but I just don't see how the alternative (waiting) is better. We're going to have to strip parts off of this roster no matter what we do over the next few years. Some of those parts are going to be pretty good players.

 

[egelband]

The interest in Chychrun makes perfect sense to me and they should pull the trigger as long as they can keep the NHL D intact. I think the Carolina game really shined a light on the need for another defenseman who can get the puck out of the zone. Chychrun is also a horse that can take the load off Fox, who is playing great but you can tell is getting worn down.

Chychrun-Fox
Miller-Trouba
Lindgren-Schneider

That's a championship defense right now. The 5v5 numbers will drastically improve if they can make this deal.

I was thinking Jones-Schneider accomplishes what we need from the third pair. But, indeed, they do need more offensive firepower on D, somehow. Nemeth is game but it just doesn’t happen.

 

[egelband]

you're relatively smart, can you tell me if this waiving is roster shuffling that signifies Jones or Lundkvist being elevated onto the roster on a semi-permanent basis? Could they sit Nemeth and run Schneider-Jones or Lundkvist?

I’d like to see those three rotate into the two bottom pair slots for a while. Get them all good action and experience with the flexibility to give them all learning breaks on occasion.

 

[egelband]

Why are Arizona trading Chychrun?

Found out he wears Rangers pajamas to bed.

 

[NYR Viper]

The more I think about it the more I’m somewhat okay with trying to find a decent 2C to help fill that hole for a year or two if they can get Chychrun in at a somewhat reasonable price.

 

[duhmetreE]

The more I think about it the more I’m somewhat okay with trying to find a decent 2C to help fill that hole for a year or two if they can get Chychrun in at a somewhat reasonable price.

the big issue with that.... is who?

Who is out there better than Strome? and what would it cost? It'd take assets and cap space. The only thing in my mind that would make sense is a Center locked up for a few years and either the trading team or a 3rd team retains. Gourde, Karlsson etc.