Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXXII

[Fitzy]

Reilly Smith literally checks all the boxes for Panarin's line

He really does.

Panarin-Strome-Smith
Kreider-Zib-Lafreniere
Chytil-Goodrow-Kakko/Kessel
Hunt-Rooney-Reaves

Has a lot more balance to it. I’m not on board with adding a top defenseman- Lindgrens dip in performance is concerning but I think he rebounds and settles back in at a 2nd pairing level.

 

[Anthony5967]

Hilarious. Canucks want a top-40 pick for Motte? Can we get that for Hunt? Not saying I would trade Hunt, but the fact that Vancouver wants that as a return is laughable.

 

[effen]

I think it’s more likely Dallas keep their young centers and try to move Seguin/Benn/etc out.

Similar to LA it doesn’t make sense for them to deal a young C for a young D. Young D much easier to get. Both teams will phase out their vets and rebuild around the young core. Not sure Bourque or Dellandrea can even stick at center either.

Also similar to LA if they want to move their young Cs it will probably be for all star level players. Not other prospects. Doesn’t make sense to do that.

Seguin and Benn both have NMCs and make 9.5M+ for years. In Seguins case, 5 more years. In both cases theyre scoring about 0.5 PPG this year.

I don't think either are tradeable. Benn is going to fall apart and become a 4th liner with no warning too.

 

[LORDE]

Slightly off topic but is @Edge really done with this board (heard a few mentions the past couple days)?

If so that really blows. Also has he gone somewhere else I can follow?

 

[NYR Viper]

He’s a left wing and he’s a rental. Don’t regularly watch Vancouver, but on those two reasons alone, I am probably out.

If they want a LW for bottom six, I’d look at Erne because you are getting an extra year out of him. Would probably cost less too.

The teams that rent are the teams pushing for a cup OR are pushing to get into the playoffs. The Rangers are kind of locked in so there is no reason for them to waste assets on a rental. For a guy with term that doesn’t break the bank? Sure. Not wasting assets on a rental

I was more thinking along the lines of Jarnkrok where they can pay to bring in someone they really like and want to keep around. I'm okay with paying for a pending UFA as long as they are re-signed. The other team should know what their contract demands are

 

[JimmyG89]

Slightly off topic but is @Edge really done with this board (heard a few mentions the past couple days)?

If so that really blows. Also has he gone somewhere else I can follow?

Unfortunately, some people that are around here didn't take information for what it is. It's info, it's not gospel or scripture. Info changes, varies on a whim. If you aren't the direct source, of course it means 15 minutes after a conversation that it could change.

It was nice to have an idea of the inner workings and what direction the team was going in. May not have panned out, but as we know, things are fluid. Two weeks ago JT Miller was the hottest commodity on the market. Now, he is staying put. Circumstances change. It just seemed like some could not accept that.

It's also possible that since Drury seems to be running an extremely tight ship that even he is not privy to information that he has in the past. Sather aired all his dirty laundry. Gorton was better at hiding things. Drury seems to only let a very select few know what he is planning and if information does get out, it's planned.

 

[Savant]

Seguin and Benn both have NMCs and make 9.5M+ for years. In Seguins case, 5 more years. In both cases theyre scoring about 0.5 PPG this year.

I don't think either are tradeable. Benn is going to fall apart and become a 4th liner with no warning too.

Their contracts aren’t great. Someone might take a chance on Seguin because he is a center. Benn they just might have to buy out. Maybe both get bought out. We just saw Minnesota do this with Parise and Suter.

 

[NYR Viper]

The problem with grabbing McBain now is that you have a burn a year of his contract and it's only a two year ELC, so now you're paying him after next season, doesn't line up for the Rangers. They'd rather try to get him in FA, which, let's be honest, if he makes it there we will have a good shot at.

Is McBain that good of a prospect? 22 years old, 6'4, put up just over a ppg in his senior season.

That sounds frighteningly similar to Morgan Barron, the guy who can't crack the Rangers roster right now (why, who the hell knows).

In saying that, if the team sees him as a future center in the NHL, I don't think they will care about wasting one his ELC years. Just the opportunity to get a NHL center should be reason enough to make a move. Hell, I'd pay UFA prices for a good, young 3C right now, skip the ELC portion of the contract. The organization needs centers so if they see him playing there, make the move. I am just hesitant to say he would be a better prospect than Barron

 

[MrAlmost]

Slightly off topic but is @Edge really done with this board (heard a few mentions the past couple days)?

If so that really blows. Also has he gone somewhere else I can follow?

I don't think so. He was posting just a week or 2 ago. It goes in waves. I imagine he will stop by this weekend/on Monday itself. Usually does each year.

 

[bhamill]

Maybe I'm in the minority here, but extend Strome by the deadline or trade him. I don't hate him as a NYR, and he came for dirt cheap, but letting him walk would be a poor decision. Judging by the asks you see from other teams he could bring back a 1st+. I mean, if the BEST you could get for him was a 3rd, then by all means, self rent, otherwise sign him or trade him. Either way this team is lucky to win one round in the playoffs (IMO of course), regardless of any of the rumored trades being pulled off or not and Strome being here or not.
(and yes, I think they are a GOOD team, not a fluke, but just not a potential playoff contender yet)

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Is McBain that good of a prospect? 22 years old, 6'4, put up just over a ppg in his senior season.

That sounds frighteningly similar to Morgan Barron, the guy who can't crack the Rangers roster right now (why, who the hell knows).

In saying that, if the team sees him as a future center in the NHL, I don't think they will care about wasting one his ELC years. Just the opportunity to get a NHL center should be reason enough to make a move. Hell, I'd pay UFA prices for a good, young 3C right now, skip the ELC portion of the contract. The organization needs centers so if they see him playing there, make the move. I am just hesitant to say he would be a better prospect than Barron

I’ll be completely honest the first time I heard his name was a few weeks ago so I have no idea about him haha. I just know that it would make more sense for the Rangers to sign him as a FA than trade for him. This smells like a Gorton move up in Montreal. He can afford it and can afford to pay him earlier and we know he has no problem trading for these types of players and paying for the pleasure.

 

[LORDE]

I don't think so. He was posting just a week or 2 ago. It goes in waves. I imagine he will stop by this weekend/on Monday itself. Usually does each year.

This is the time of year (along w the draft) that I never missed an @Edge post

Sort of my drug of choice you might say

 

[jerseyjinx94]

Getting McBain and signing him now, burning the ELC, is a smarter move. You never know where he will sign if he goes to UFA. If the Rangers have to worry about having to pay McBain in 23-24 on a RFA contract, then he will be a superstar and that's a good problem to have. They will probably bridge him and end up with 3-4 cost controlled years of the player.

 

[GAGLine]

Maybe I'm in the minority here, but extend Strome by the deadline or trade him. I don't hate him as a NYR, and he came for dirt cheap, but letting him walk would be a poor decision. Judging by the asks you see from other teams he could bring back a 1st+. I mean, if the BEST you could get for him was a 3rd, then by all means, self rent, otherwise sign him or trade him. Either way this team is lucky to win one round in the playoffs (IMO of course), regardless of any of the rumored trades being pulled off or not and Strome being here or not.
(and yes, I think they are a GOOD team, not a fluke, but just not a potential playoff contender yet)

Drury isn't going to make the team worse going into the playoffs. The players would be pissed. I seriously doubt we'd get a 1st for him anyway. What other teams are asking for is irrelevant. None of those asks have been met yet. The only 1st traded so far is for Toffoli, who has 2 years left on his deal after this.

 

[Savant]

Is McBain that good of a prospect? 22 years old, 6'4, put up just over a ppg in his senior season.

That sounds frighteningly similar to Morgan Barron, the guy who can't crack the Rangers roster right now (why, who the hell knows).

In saying that, if the team sees him as a future center in the NHL, I don't think they will care about wasting one his ELC years. Just the opportunity to get a NHL center should be reason enough to make a move. Hell, I'd pay UFA prices for a good, young 3C right now, skip the ELC portion of the contract. The organization needs centers so if they see him playing there, make the move. I am just hesitant to say he would be a better prospect than Barron

Don’t think they have the cap to do anything else there. Think the pick is worth rolling the dice that it works out because they aren’t going to have the financial power to do anything else.

 

[bobbop]

Jankowski was waived yesterday.He's a good 4th line option who kills penalties.I would take him over Mckegg and the ghost of Reaves

I really like Jankowski. You may be on to something here.

 

[bhamill]

Drury isn't going to make the team worse going into the playoffs. The players would be pissed. I seriously doubt we'd get a 1st for him anyway. What other teams are asking for is irrelevant. None of those asks have been met yet. The only 1st traded so far is for Toffoli, who has 2 years left on his deal after this.

Oh, you are probably right about what is GOING to happen, I'm just venting. And while I too think a 1st would be a GREAT deal for NYR, there's a reason I said only self rent if you can't do better than a third.

 

[B17 Apricots]

Is McBain that good of a prospect? 22 years old, 6'4, put up just over a ppg in his senior season.

That sounds frighteningly similar to Morgan Barron, the guy who can't crack the Rangers roster right now (why, who the hell knows).

In saying that, if the team sees him as a future center in the NHL, I don't think they will care about wasting one his ELC years. Just the opportunity to get a NHL center should be reason enough to make a move. Hell, I'd pay UFA prices for a good, young 3C right now, skip the ELC portion of the contract. The organization needs centers so if they see him playing there, make the move. I am just hesitant to say he would be a better prospect than Barron

Not sure what the hype is. He's interesting because he might go unsigned but people penciling him into the lineup might be disappointed. Not a bad prospect, but like you said... he's no better a prospect than Barron is. Vesey won the Hobey Baker and Buffalo gave up a 3rd for his rights. We have no 3rd round pick this year and I certainly wouldn't pay any higher than that

 

[Rangers in 7]

The problem with grabbing McBain now is that you have a burn a year of his contract and it's only a two year ELC, so now you're paying him after next season, doesn't line up for the Rangers. They'd rather try to get him in FA, which, let's be honest, if he makes it there we will have a good shot at.

its not like he will be asking for 5 mil.....get him and burn the 1st year

 

[Machinehead]

Hilarious. Canucks want a top-40 pick for Motte? Can we get that for Hunt? Not saying I would trade Hunt, but the fact that Vancouver wants that as a return is laughable.

Motte is actually pretty decent but then again, so is Hunt.

 

[McRanger92]

Larry speculating they Rangers go for Lindholm/Giordano with the rental forward market not very enticing. I suggested it yesterday and agree. 2nd & Robertson we’re bakes he mentioned. Also reports Drury doesn’t want to give a premium asset for Rakell

 

[leetch99]

I think it’s more likely Dallas keep their young centers and try to move Seguin/Benn/etc out.

Similar to LA it doesn’t make sense for them to deal a young C for a young D. Young D much easier to get. Both teams will phase out their vets and rebuild around the young core. Not sure Bourque or Dellandrea can even stick at center either.

Also similar to LA if they want to move their young Cs it will probably be for all star level players. Not other prospects. Doesn’t make sense to do that.

Whew....Seguin and Benn deals 9+ million look bad right now . 30 & 32 years of age and likely not getting any better . They likely will need to eat salary to dump them guys . Which guy is or plays the most at center ? I always liked the game Benn played ...hit , score & fight . Not sure he does much of any these days . Maybe a change of scenery for him do him wonders playing with a Panarin-Kakko ?

 

[leetch99]

Seguin and Benn both have NMCs and make 9.5M+ for years. In Seguins case, 5 more years. In both cases theyre scoring about 0.5 PPG this year.

I don't think either are tradeable. Benn is going to fall apart and become a 4th liner with no warning too.

Is he that bad ? He has 3 more at 9.5 . I just made a reply...I never saw your post before I did.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Motte is actually pretty decent but then again, so is Hunt.

It's funny how you like Hunt and Gauthier who have put up a combined 15 points while taking up space on the 2nd and 3rd lines but you have a problem with Panarin who leads the team in scoring the last 3 years. I don't care if they are out there hustling and getting their cardio on the ice. They are both 4th line players at best who have proven they have hands of stone. Get some RW help and move Hunt down to the 4th where he belongs.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Larry speculating they Rangers go for Lindholm/Giordano with the rental forward market not very enticing. I suggested it yesterday and agree. 2nd & Robertson we’re bakes he mentioned. Also reports Drury doesn’t want to give a premium asset for Rakell

They need to upgrade the D.

Chychrun would have been the preference (and I wouldn't have a problem moving a D off the roster for him either.) Gio isn't a top pair guy anymore (would be a great 4-6 option) but Lindholm is very good.

Really, getting a few good bottom 6 guys, a top 4-ish defender would be my preferred route rather than trying to land a scorer. Our strengths are goaltending and ST's. If we can turn 5v5 times into a slog fest where nothing really happens for anyone, thats probably our best path to victory in the short term and also probably the easier path to make moves for.