Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXXII

[egelband]

How many other teams do you watch regularly and how often do they do this? It simply doesn’t happen in the NHL. The margins are razor thin, especially in the top half of the league (i.e., playoff teams).

I don’t know if this is you, but I feel like people recall the pre cap days when you’d have a juggernaut Ranger team blow the doors off a bubble Islander team in a four game playoff series. The league is different now.

Yep. It’s important to keep in mind that not only is there parity but there’s also the refs game managing. Most games come down to just a few breaks and nice plays. Winning is a skill in itself and the rangers have something going. I know that’s vague but that’s hockey to me.

 

[bobbop]

Lehkonen is affordable and would fit the team profile. Gauthier and a pick going the other way makes a ton of sense. Probably not a second.

Chychrun would be a great add but everyone seems to be off on the return going the other way. I could see K’Andre headlining the return. Hard to swallow but much more realistic than some of the yard sale proposals for Chychrun floating around. This may be an off season trade.

If the Rangers go full rental on defense, I’d sure be checking in on Nick Leddy.

 

[Paulie Walnutz]

Lehkonen is affordable and would fit the team profile. Gauthier and a pick going the other way makes a ton of sense. Probably not a second.

Chychrun would be a great add but everyone seems to be off on the return going the other way. I could see K’Andre headlining the return. Hard to swallow but much more realistic than some of the yard sale proposals for Chychrun floating around. This may be an off season trade.

If the Rangers go full rental on defense, I’d sure be checking in on Nick Leddy.

What do you think about the Rangers’ chances of getting Crouse? Would fill in nicely in the bottom 6 and add more muscle for the playoffs.

 

[egelband]

Lehkonen is affordable and would fit the team profile. Gauthier and a pick going the other way makes a ton of sense. Probably not a second.

Chychrun would be a great add but everyone seems to be off on the return going the other way. I could see K’Andre headlining the return. Hard to swallow but much more realistic than some of the yard sale proposals for Chychrun floating around. This may be an off season trade.

If the Rangers go full rental on defense, I’d sure be checking in on Nick Leddy.

How about getting Lehkonen and Toffoli. I think Toffoli wakes up in the playoffs.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Crouse makes so much sense for this team. He’s everything we hoped Gauthier would be. Third line should be Laf-Goodrow-Crouse, and next year imagine a checking line of Blais-Goodrow-Crouse followed up with the 4th line that’ll also grind teams down. I agree with whoever posted it above: Rangers should make depth moves, Crouse fits the team like a glove.

I dont know if Crouse plays RW. I know he is a LW. I would love Keller but I doubt he is dealt.

 

[Boris Zubov]

I dont know if Crouse plays RW. I know he is a LW. I would love Keller but I doubt he is dealt.

Keller's contract is a non starter for us.

 

[Paulie Walnutz]

I dont know if Crouse plays RW. I know he is a LW. I would love Keller but I doubt he is dealt.

Yeah I’m not sure if he ever has played on his off wing. Keller won’t work here with his huge contract.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Keller's contract is a non starter for us.

Keller for Trouba down the road would not be an issue with that contract.. But I love Trouba. He is here to stay. Keller is underrated in my opinion.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Yeah I’m not sure if he ever has played on his off wing. Keller won’t work here with his huge contract.

I know that. Just saying I like the player.

 

[Alluckks]

Lundkvist + Kravstov + 2022 1st for Chychrun
Gauthier + 2022 4th for Lehkonen
Berard + 2022 2nd for Pavelski

Helps with 5v5 possession, faceoffs, adds defense and PK ability players, and Lehk is a RFA and Chych is on a great contract for a few years, which is mega valuable to this team

Kreider Zib Kakko
Panarin Strome Chytil
Laf Pavelski Lehkonen
Rooney Goodrow Reaves/Hunt

Figure out what D pairs work best, Nemeth benched as 7th and Schneider stays

Next year Nemeth or Lindgren can be dealt, maybe both for cap, Jones plays then
Pavelski walks obviously, Goodrow or Barron can move up
Chytil could potentially be traded and Blais slides in right there

 

[RangersFan1994]

Predators trade Luke Kunin and Tanner Jeannot to Rangers for Lundkvist and 2ed (Blues)

Rangers can use depth at center and size and skill for the playoffs. I believe Rangers were one of the teams that wanted to sign Jeannot when he was a UDFA.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Lundkvist + Kravstov + 2022 1st for Chychrun
Gauthier + 2022 4th for Lehkonen
Berard + 2022 2nd for Pavelski

Helps with 5v5 possession, faceoffs, adds defense and PK ability players, and Lehk is a RFA and Chych is on a great contract for a few years, which is mega valuable to this team

Kreider Zib Kakko
Panarin Strome Chytil
Laf Pavelski Lehkonen
Rooney Goodrow Reaves/Hunt

Figure out what D pairs work best, Nemeth benched as 7th and Schneider stays

Next year Nemeth or Lindgren can be dealt, maybe both for cap, Jones plays then
Pavelski walks obviously, Goodrow or Barron can move up
Chytil could potentially be traded and Blais slides in right there

I dont like the Pavelski deal. Rather keep Berard and trade someone else like Lundvkist or Miller for real upgrade someone signed for the next few years like Dubois and call up Jones. I rather trade for some term within the youth movement depending on the cap hit.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Predators trade Luke Kunin and Tanner Jeannot to Rangers for Lundkvist and 2ed (Blues)

Rangers can use depth at center and size and skill for the playoffs. I believe Rangers were one of the teams that wanted to sign Jeannot when he was a UDFA.

No

 

[jay from jersey]

Crouse makes so much sense for this team. He’s everything we hoped Gauthier would be. Third line should be Laf-Goodrow-Crouse, and next year imagine a checking line of Blais-Goodrow-Crouse followed up with the 4th line that’ll also grind teams down. I agree with whoever posted it above: Rangers should make depth moves, Crouse fits the team like a glove.

He’s going to be too expensive next year. I hate having guys that are having career years when contracts are due.
i was more bullish on Crouse then most in the offseason, but we missed the boat to add him.
Not too mention, teams like the leafs, etc that need to get tougher, will likely try to overpay for his services for the playoffs.
At this point, I’d rather just play Barron instead of spending assets/cap room we shouldn’t.....

 

[Paulie Walnutz]

He’s going to be too expensive next year. I hate having guys that are having career years when contracts are due.
i was more bullish on Crouse then most in the offseason, but we missed the boat to add him.
Not too mention, teams like the leafs, etc that need to get tougher, will likely try to overpay for his services for the playoffs.
At this point, I’d rather just play Barron instead of spending assets/cap room we shouldn’t.....

We’ll jump the market and make them an offer they can’t refuse.

 

[QJL]

Went to to the Sharks/Kraken game tonight. Hertl was excellent. I want him as another center badly, but the price will be too high.

Jarnkrok was also solid.

 

[Ola]

What? You can just look this stuff up, ya know.

Goodrow averaged 18 mins a game in 2019-20 playoffs = 7th among all Tampa forwards
Goodrow averaged 17 mins a game in last years playoffs = 5th among all Tampa forwards
Coleman 18 mins a game in 2019-20 playoffs = 8th among all Tampa forwards
Coleman 16 mins a game in last years playoffs = 8th among all Tampa forwards

So not only were the firmly entrenched as solid 3rd line players on back to back Stanley Cup winning teams, but the guy that we have was actually playing 2nd line minutes in the most recent playoffs

My bad on the “4”, but would you describe them as big name rentals?

Honestly, I don’t think they are a good example of a team succeeding by trading for big name rentals. (a) They weren’t rentals. (b) They aren’t “big names”.

Neither has ever scored 40 pts in the NHL. Weren’t they the classic example of a team adding depth and grit at the deadline?

 

[McRanger92]

Went to to the Sharks/Kraken game tonight. Hertl was excellent. I want him as another center badly, but the price will be too high.

Jarnkrok was also solid.

Id take both and Giordano while we’re on that game

 

[smoneil]

Went to to the Sharks/Kraken game tonight. Hertl was excellent. I want him as another center badly, but the price will be too high.

Jarnkrok was also solid.

Hertl worries me. First because of his knees, but also because of the distribution of his production. I dug into his numbers a bit while arguing with some Sharks fans (who thought Hertl was better than Zibanejad). I don't know if this is a trend that goes beyond this season, but this year, he has been putting up a LOT of points against bottom feeders (literally a third of his points at one point were all against the same two scrub teams). His offense also dried up against the top of the league. He only had 2 points (0g, 2a) in 12 games against the top ten teams in the standings (this was at some point earlier in the week, I have no idea if that's changed at all).

If you are going to give a fortune for a pure playoff rental, it's not a good sign when he seems to have trouble scoring against good teams.

 

[Savant]

Lehkonen is affordable and would fit the team profile. Gauthier and a pick going the other way makes a ton of sense. Probably not a second.

Chychrun would be a great add but everyone seems to be off on the return going the other way. I could see K’Andre headlining the return. Hard to swallow but much more realistic than some of the yard sale proposals for Chychrun floating around. This may be an off season trade.

If the Rangers go full rental on defense, I’d sure be checking in on Nick Leddy.

At Chychrun’s age and contract, as unfortunate as it would be, I think have to put KAM in that deal.

Was thinking about Leddy the other day too. Don’t think that will happen but that would definite something to explore.

 

[jay from jersey]

from the main board



I’d give up Lundkvist for Hagel

This is something I could potentially get behind as well.
Hagel is going to be cheap for a while.

I really don’t want Drury to deal any of Othmann/berard/Cuylle/Robertson

I trade kravtsov/Lundkvist/Jones/1st before those 4 imo.
If miller was to be traded, it better be a solid/cheap piece coming back as well. But it’s seems like they love KM....
I’ve said many times, Schneider just won’t be available unless a too good to be true type deal

 

[NYR Viper]

Many here misunderstood my comment on Pavelski. He’s a difference maker, yes. But the price for all teams will be that of over a point per game player. He won’t be in the same role here so his production will drop. That’s not to say he won’t be effective at his role, just that the cost to acquire him will be higher than his impact just based on where he will play.

I’m a little concerned that so many people are quick to throw away the teams too you g talent for one kick at the can this season. The organization just went through multiple years of accumulating assets and young players to build both for now and the future and now many are trading them all away at one deadline?

 

[MrPodz]

I dont want pavelski because he plays the same position as kreider on the pp- net front. If you play him on the 3rd thatd make sense, and you add a pp2 threat, but you have to see what the price is. Id like klingberg, but we dont need him tbh. We need a 2nd pair defenseman on the 3rd who can slide up if miller struggles. Im thinking calvin de haan or mark pysyk. Id trade one of the 2nd rounders for them. I think your biggest piece is probably kravstov or lundkvist and you dont spend that on a minor upgrade. Id give kravstov, a 3rd and a 2nd for girioux. Same offer for hertl and see which team bites. Hertls nmc helps. Dont worry about his knees, he hasnt had major issues the past two seasons and is playing really well. He also brings a ton of leadership and can wake up the team. It sets up a mini battle between him and strome for who gets resigned as well. Hertl might take a cut if he is competing with strome and that might be along the lines of 6 mil. Its tight, but nemeth is moveable and if you really need cap space, then i think you have to get creative next year and go after bergeron.

 

[Vitto79]

Gallant keeps putting Hunt back w Panarin so a trade target is likely a similar style of player ?
For some reason Panarin and Strome work well W a plugger on that side

 

[HonestGabe]

Gallant keeps putting Hunt back w Panarin so a trade target is likely a similar style of player ?
For some reason Panarin and Strome work well W a plugger on that side

Reilly Smith.