Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXXII

[duhmetreE]

I think it could be, but who would be playing RW in the top six? Presumably Chytil on one line. Trying Laf or Kreider on the off wing again?

Laffy was suppose get another chance there before he got Covid. Gallant forgot now we're back to Hunt.

Kreider Zibs Laffy
Panarin Strome Chytil
Lekhonen Goodrow Kakko

I like that top9

upgrade Nemeth, and we're good to go.

 

[IDvsEGO]

We've had a pretty favorable schedule so far IIRC, we've also been pretty lucky with the timing of our guys being in Covid protocol. Some other teams got absolutely screwed. I don't really buy that excuse.

On the optimistic side, I've always been a big believer in Shesterkin and I do think he will sustain this level of play and will go down as equal to, or dare I say.. better than Hank. We've had some mediocre teams that Hank dragged pretty far, the ceiling of this core is much higher than 2014 imo. I don't like the argument of saying a team sucks but their goaltending is good, as if the goaltender isn't a significant part of the team. That's like removing the star players on any other team and saying they'd suck if they didn't have x or y, well they do have x or y so hypotheticals don't matter

Id actually disagree, our schedule was very road heavy so far. The fact that we're finished with almost all our long distance travel games already is huge.
The fact that we're this high in the standings while playing so many of our games on the road is fantastic, but thats not a favorable schedule.

 

[smoneil]

Yeah, this isn't a young player naturally maturing with age. This is a player who needed a kick in the ass, saw his actions cost him around $2 million this year, and personally felt the majority of the 32-team league rather not have to deal with him. I'd bet on him keeping his head on straight through this year. Will he after he gets some financial security again? We'll see.

I'd be more concerned about what might happen to his behavior should Trump run again. The political climate seemed to be fueling his outbursts more than anything else.

 

[rangersfansince08]

If we even win one playoff series we should all just become pricks given how much harping their is about out 5 x 5 xG

 

[mas0764]

I'm not sure you understand what betting odds actually are. It's not 10 NHL experts picking which team they like to win it all, it's simply the amount of money Vegas has taken in on these teams to win it. If you got enough of your rich friends together & went & dropped a few hundred grand on the Rangers to win the Cup, they'd move up the list.

I understand that.

 

[BBKers]

Exactly two months until the trade deadline (CET here). 23 scheduled games to play until then. Then 19 games left to close out the regular season. Something like ~98% chance the Broadway Blues are back in the playoffs this year. The Rangers currently have $35,875,060 in deadline cap space. Not $8 M. And add the circumstance that The bonus cushion overage will not be used. I think they could create even more space if they were to go over the current cap ceiling by płacing Blais on the LTIR as well. The next few years the team will likely be cash strapped. A plethora of attractive pieces and picks. An owner and a stoogie advisory honcho clamouring for instant results and thinking they are close right nów with several elitę pieces in their prime. This is the setting. Like it or not. Expect - - - if Not Madness in March - - - at least a very good chance that will things Get pretty radical and we will see a NYR team that is quite different than just one or two minor upgrades...come May. And hopefully in June too!

 

[Synergy27]

There should be more games from them that are complete 60 minute efforts though. That's the type of consistency I want to see from them. Be the best team on the ice the whole game. It doesn't have to happen every game but it should happen more often.

How many other teams do you watch regularly and how often do they do this? It simply doesn’t happen in the NHL. The margins are razor thin, especially in the top half of the league (i.e., playoff teams).

I don’t know if this is you, but I feel like people recall the pre cap days when you’d have a juggernaut Ranger team blow the doors off a bubble Islander team in a four game playoff series. The league is different now.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

How many other teams do you watch regularly and how often do they do this? It simply doesn’t happen in the NHL. The margins are razor thin, especially in the top half of the league (i.e., playoff teams).

I don’t know if this is you, but I feel like people recall the pre cap days when you’d have a juggernaut Ranger team blow the doors off a bubble Islander team in a four game playoff series. The league is different now.

I got two TVs going at all times with hockey games on in the evenings, so I'm watching a lot of teams. The Avs, Canes, Lightning, Panthers have 60 minute dominant efforts all the time. They have their stinkers, but I see a lot more wire to wire games from those teams then from the Rangers.

 

[IDvsEGO]

Yeah, this isn't a young player naturally maturing with age. This is a player who needed a kick in the ass, saw his actions cost him around $2 million this year, and personally felt the majority of the 32-team league rather not have to deal with him. I'd bet on him keeping his head on straight through this year. Will he after he gets some financial security again? We'll see.

I mean I think it was more that 32 teams all looked at his contract and said he's not worth a 4m headache, but for a league minimum I think he got plenty of offers.
Same with E. Kane, he's a pain in the ass, but he immediately got offers at 750k.

 

[Thirty One]

I mean I think it was more that 32 teams all looked at his contract and said he's not worth a 4m headache, but for a league minimum I think he got plenty of offers.
Same with E. Kane, he's a pain in the ass, but he immediately got offers at 750k.

I don't think he got plenty of offers, but either way, no team was willing to give him a contract in line with his on-ice ability. That would be a wake up call, I'd imagine.

 

[McRanger92]

Bored at work so ill take a crack at what i think would be a realistic trade deadline.

The big move id make is for Joe Pavelski. He checks every box for what this team needs. 56% on Faceoffs, can play on the wing or at center, tons of deep playoff experience & production and some extra motivation to win a Cup at age 38. I know Dallas is still in the mix (losing 2-0 to BUF as i type this) but they are on the outside looking in and they know Klingberg is a goner, makes me think that will tip the scales for them in favor of selling. Other options: Claude Giroux/Tomas Hertl

NYR: Joe Pavelski
DAL: Vitali Kravtsov, Blues 2nd Rd pick

Next up id zero in on Arturri Lehkonen from MTL. I know hes not a true rental, but hed be a huge addition to the Rangers bottom 6. Hes got some experience in the playoffs from last year, and i like the comparison that's been made to a Fedontenko type impact. Other options: Travis Boyd/Chris Tierney

NYR: Arturri Lehkonen
MTL: NYR 2nd Rd pick, Julien Gauthier

The last move id make is adding a depth defenseman, preferably someone to play with Schneider. Nick Leddy checks a lot of boxes. Obviously tons of experience (im sure youre noticing a theme), and a guy who can move the puck, without having to play major minutes. I was never much of a fan, but its clear the Islanders desperately miss him and he fills a need. I cant imagine the cost being prohibitive.

NYR: Nick Leddy
DET: Libor Hajek (Stevie Y), 2023 NYR 3rd Rd pick

Kreider-Zibanejad-Kakko
Panarin-Strome-Pavelski
Lafreniere-Goodrow-Chytil
Lehkonen-Rooney-Reaves
Hunt/McKegg

Lindgren-Fox
Miller-Trouba
Leddy-Schneider
Nemeth

Shesterkin
Georgiev

Im sure ill get roasted on the mock trade returns, but i think they are all at least in the ballpark. The roster above has a ton of depth and slots a lot of guys into the roles they should be in. Its a no brainer to make 2-3 moves if the most we are giving up is draft picks, spare parts and a prospect who is never playing here again.

 

[Boris Zubov]

Bored at work so ill take a crack at what i think would be a realistic trade deadline.

The big move id make is for Joe Pavelski. He checks every box for what this team needs. 56% on Faceoffs, can play on the wing or at center, tons of deep playoff experience & production and some extra motivation to win a Cup at age 38. I know Dallas is still in the mix (losing 2-0 to BUF as i type this) but they are on the outside looking in and they know Klingberg is a goner, makes me think that will tip the scales for them in favor of selling. Other options: Claude Giroux/Tomas Hertl

NYR: Joe Pavelski
DAL: Vitali Kravtsov, Blues 2nd Rd pick

Next up id zero in on Arturri Lehkonen from MTL. I know hes not a true rental, but hed be a huge addition to the Rangers bottom 6. Hes got some experience in the playoffs from last year, and i like the comparison that's been made to a Fedontenko type impact. Other options: Travis Boyd/Chris Tierney

NYR: Arturri Lehkonen
MTL: NYR 2nd Rd pick, Julien Gauthier

The last move id make is adding a depth defenseman, preferably someone to play with Schneider. Nick Leddy checks a lot of boxes. Obviously tons of experience (im sure youre noticing a theme), and a guy who can move the puck, without having to play major minutes. I was never much of a fan, but its clear the Islanders desperately miss him and he fills a need. I cant imagine the cost being prohibitive.

NYR: Nick Leddy
DET: Libor Hajek (Stevie Y), 2023 NYR 3rd Rd pick

Kreider-Zibanejad-Kakko
Panarin-Strome-Pavelski
Lafreniere-Goodrow-Chytil
Lehkonen-Rooney-Reaves
Hunt/McKegg

Lindgren-Fox
Miller-Trouba
Leddy-Schneider
Nemeth

Shesterkin
Georgiev

Im sure ill get roasted on the mock trade returns, but i think they are all at least in the ballpark. The roster above has a ton of depth and slots a lot of guys into the roles they should be in. Its a no brainer to make 2-3 moves if the most we are giving up is draft picks, spare parts and a prospect who is never playing here again.

We've been agreement to add at the deadline, but that Pavelski offer is a giant overpayment.

 

[LeetchisGod]

I know it wont happen but I'd like Jones to get another look.

It truly is imperative to get another capable puck mover.

This is one of the reasons that we struggle 5 on 5.

 

[DuneGoon84]

Man, I know it's a pipe dream but it would be awesome to get pat Kane on this team. He and breadman reunited.

 

[McRanger92]

We've been agreement to add at the deadline, but that Pavelski offer is a giant overpayment.

Really? I thought it was light if were going off the consensus that Krav's value around the league right now is about 2nd rounder. 2 seconds got Dallas Zuccarello a few years back.

 

[Thirty One]

We've been agreement to add at the deadline, but that Pavelski offer is a giant overpayment.

Too much for the Rangers to pay? Maybe. But I think that's approximately what some team will pay to get Pavelski.

 

[NYRangers0723]

Really? I thought it was light if were going off the consensus that Krav's value around the league right now is about 2nd rounder. 2 seconds got Dallas Zuccarello a few years back.

. Zucc cost a second and a third

 

[rangers1314]

This is one of the reasons that we struggle 5 on 5.

Friedman says we’re in on chychrun.

@BBKers posted that NYR could very well go big game hunting.

We’ve got 1.5 guys who can move the puck, Fox and Trouba can decently. Miller can if he used his skating ability more. It’s an area of need.

 

[RGY]

Really? I thought it was light if were going off the consensus that Krav's value around the league right now is about 2nd rounder. 2 seconds got Dallas Zuccarello a few years back.

I think your first two trades were overpayments.

Rather than Lekhonen, I would rather try to expand on a Pavelski deal to include Hintz/Faksa.

 

[Thirty One]

. Zucc cost a second and a third

It was two first rounds picks, that reverted to a 2nd and a 3rd with some bad luck.

 

[McRanger92]

. Zucc cost a second and a third

Lets chalk the difference up to inflation lol. I also think there were conditions on those picks that couldve made them 1st rounders

 

[BBKers]

. Zucc cost a second and a third

Plus a couple of conditional 1st round options that are looking pretty damned good right nów - albeit in an alternate Universe somewhere Far Far away

 

[Crease]

Rangers currently have $35,875,060 in deadline cap space.

The Rangers could add the entire Senators roster.

 

[McRanger92]

I think your first two trades were overpayments.

Rather than Lekhonen, I would rather try to expand on a Pavelski deal to include Hintz/Faksa.

I wouldnt be opposed to that. Faksa probably fits our needs better. I also assume Drury would like to muddy the waters as little as possible in terms of next years cap sheet. I wouldnt expect to add anyone with term unless salary is retained or its a significant upgrade

 

[duhmetreE]

I'm hesitant on getting a top6 rental.

We want our kids getting the opportunities and experience, no? I'm fine living and dying with them.... it may be severe copium but I see them getting it together