Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXVIII

[jay from jersey]

Miller has been a point/game player for the last 2+ seasons now and plays huge minutes in all situations. I think his value is quite high. Surely a 1st+.

His value may be a 1st + but not to the rangers. Especially not what he was traded for.
The main problem to our 2C problem is that there is just no one available atm that is a clear upgrade on strome/Chytil.
The rangers missed the boat on Bennett and PLD, they didn’t want to take the chance or pay the cost.
I have no doubt we will likely add if we’re firmly in the playoff thick of things points wise, but unless something changes, drury will likely look to add 2nd tier guys as opposed to making a big splash.
If something happens and the right guy becomes available with the right contract, I think he’d make the move, but as it sits now, I don’t see our 1st or any young D moved at least until the offseason/draft.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

My lines if i were coaching this..

Kreider Zib kakko
Panarin Goodrow Strome
Laf chytil Gauthier
Hunt rooney Reaves

 

[Shesterkybomb]

His value may be a 1st + but not to the rangers. Especially not what he was traded for.
The main problem to our 2C problem is that there is just no one available atm that is a clear upgrade on strome/Chytil.
The rangers missed the boat on Bennett and PLD, they didn’t want to take the chance or pay the cost.
I have no doubt we will likely add if we’re firmly in the playoff thick of things points wise, but unless something changes, drury will likely look to add 2nd tier guys as opposed to making a big splash.
If something happens and the right guy becomes available with the right contract, I think he’d make the move, but as it sits now, I don’t see our 1st or any young D moved at least until the offseason/draft.

Make the 2nd line Panarin Goodrow Strome

 

[jay from jersey]

Make the 2nd line Panarin Goodrow Strome

I don’t expect our line up to change much this season.
Well add a Rodrigues, Donskoi, etc piece and maybe a UFA Defenseman.
When strome is gone next year, I’d expect to see an offseason trade with the kings for an example for a pinelli/Kupari/Villardi. Etc

 

[huerter]

Hunt said today that he lives closer to UBS than MSG. Anyone know where the dude is living?

 

[Vitto79]

I mean if you are the Canucks how are you going to let Benning make a trade right now?

apparently the answer to that is yes but he wouldn’t be selling he Would do a shake up type deal

 

[Ola]

My lines if i were coaching this..

Kreider Zib kakko
Panarin Goodrow Strome
Laf chytil Gauthier
Hunt rooney Reaves

Honestly, if it is early in camp, I would try something like this:
Chytil-Zibanejad-Kakko
Panarin-Laf-Strome
Kreider-Goodrow-Gauthier
Hunt-Rooney-Reaves

 

[Chytilmania]

Speaking of Othmann...I don't want to rush guys but how great would that be if him and Cuylle make the team next year, plus Barron. From what I've seen the two of them have been on fire this year.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Speaking of Othmann...I don't want to rush guys but how great would that be if him and Cuylle make the team next year, plus Barron. From what I've seen the two of them have been on fire this year.

Don’t forget Berard

 

[mas0764]

This is a relevant read, not sure if discussed.

Sorry it's paywall but it's worth having this subscription.

Have the Rangers invested too much in their core? A deep dive on the value, comparables and future roster impact

 

[mas0764]

Don’t forget Berard

Who are those guys replacing? Are we letting Blais walk?

What a great usage of Buchnevich that would have turned out to be.

 

[NYRFANMANI]

Speaking of Othmann...I don't want to rush guys but how great would that be if him and Cuylle make the team next year, plus Barron. From what I've seen the two of them have been on fire this year.

Good to hear, I wouldn't want to rush any kids either. Love the way Detroit does it.

But this is the Rangers and we will rush'em.

 

[RGY]

Who are those guys replacing? Are we letting Blais walk?

What a great usage of Buchnevich that would have turned out to be.

No way we let Blais walk. I think they will get him re-signed at a very favorable deal. Guys like Berard and Cuylle need a veteran like him to learn from. Plus he adds just a different element. Hope we see him back for playoffs and he gives is a huge boost.

 

[jay from jersey]

Speaking of Othmann...I don't want to rush guys but how great would that be if him and Cuylle make the team next year, plus Barron. From what I've seen the two of them have been on fire this year.

All 3 of Cuylle/Berard/Othmann have showed solid progress and will hopefully be excellent cheap support players plugged in on ElCs over the next few seasons.
I’m thinking next year, the only ones that likely make the jump are Barron/Schneider and Jones.
I have no doubt we’re likely dealing 1 of Lundkvist or Jones in a package this offseason.
Barron likely takes over 3C duties. He’ll likely be ready and cost effective for our cap.
I think they def want Schneider breaking in on 3rd pairing while Trouba is still in the top 4.
Watching him, practicing with him, and playing with him is important on the job training.
Nils will likely still be a solid NHL D, I just have no idea where he fits with the way Miller has progressed and Fox and Trouba still here with Schneider coming.
I don’t see nils going down to the A after playing in the nhl this season, and I don’t see Schneider staying in the A for another year. So logic would dictate Lundkvist is likely going.
Also, I’m positive we won’t have a top 6 where 3 of the guys are Fox/Lundkvist/Jones
Not when we have bigger similarly rated guys that are ready.

 

[bleedblue94]

they need to get rid of their shit GM. That team is going no where fast

He overplayed things so badly. Demanding a 1st and 3rd to not pick Giordano who is is a great d man but in his late 30s with 1 year left was just stupid. Take a 2nd and stock your system. Passing on Taresenko was stupid. Signing Grubauer was unnecessary, I always felt that guy was terribly overrated. That team has several holes.

 

[bleedblue94]

Colin Blackwell would be a cheap option for the first line.

I'm not picking on you or others, but this is so shortsighted. IF IF IF nyr acquired blackwell he would be replacing kakko on the line with the step twins bc they would be heavily advocating for it again. Maybe kakko ends up with zib or maybe he gets buried on the third line again, either way bringing blackwell back to this org would be a terrible idea simply bc we know that panarin and strome have fought to have him on their line in the past and you can rest assured they would do the same again...

 

[bleedblue94]

No way they would have picked Goodrow's rights. They would have picked either Killorn, Palat or Matthieu Joseph. Potentially would have freed up a lot of cap for the Lightning, but leaves them down another key forward.

it would have been joseph, and that is a kid that has a chance to blossom in the next couple years with an expanding role.

 

[jay from jersey]

it would have been joseph, and that is a kid that has a chance to blossom in the next couple years with an expanding role.

Yes, it’s amazing what playing the same system will do to help these kids when they come up. Guys like Joseph, Colton, Stephens and Erne when they were there just fit in seamlessly. That’s what Hartford needs to do for the rangers

 

[bleedblue94]

what's funny about the van situation is that there appear to be issues with pettersen and one would have to imagine they are weighing what kind of deal to make there. Pettersen made some very revealing comments while he was holding out about just wanting to play somewhere that he can win and not necessarily being tied to vancover, then he signs a short 3 year bridge deal that is backloaded and the team is awful, he has been awful, and now the question is if those two things are related (i know he is coming off the wrist injury, but the effort isnt even there).

He also plays a very physical game for his size, not physical in the sense of big hits, but physical in the manner that he uses his body to protect the puck and engage in board battles. The easy trade for van to make is to move miller bc he is a ufa after next year, but he has been relatively outstanding for them since they acquired him. I wonder what it would take for them to resign him. The riskier move is to look at dealing pettersen for a fair value trade/hockey trade IF they are indeed concerned about his attitude and his body holding up. He hasnt been in the league that long but he is already starting to show an injury trend which could be concerning to some...

 

[bleedblue94]

Yes, it’s amazing what playing the same system will do to help these kids when they come up. Guys like Joseph, Colton, Stephens and Erne when they were there just fit in seamlessly. That’s what Hartford needs to do for the rangers

they started doing that back in the AV days. the issue is much more about putting kids in a position to succeed and play to their strengths when they come up: such as an offensive player being put in an offensive role and not a 4th line role. it is silly to invest in elite talent just to slot them in a checker's role when they get top the league instead of letting that talent flourish. Also, TBL have one of if not the best AHL coaching groups around. Those guys are gold when it comes to player development, and they may be just as important to the success of that org as any other factor based on the number of players they have helped develop and pump into the nhl team. I believe out of all the forwards on the TBL cup teams there was only ONE first round pick among them and that was Stamkos. Let that sink in...

 

[CLW]

I'm not picking on you or others, but this is so shortsighted. IF IF IF nyr acquired blackwell he would be replacing kakko on the line with the step twins bc they would be heavily advocating for it again. Maybe kakko ends up with zib or maybe he gets buried on the third line again, either way bringing blackwell back to this org would be a terrible idea simply bc we know that panarin and strome have fought to have him on their line in the past and you can rest assured they would do the same again...

Thankfully re-acquiring Blackwell is a moot point for this season. I'm sure I read somewhere that players taken in the exp. draft can't be traded back to their original team in the same season.

 

[haohmaru]

If you want to take a flier on an aging fringe NHL'er like Blackwell then just recall Brodzinksi and see what he can do. He's having quite the year for the 'Pack.

 

[DialUp]

His value may be a 1st +

Been playing way too much Diablo 2 recently and my immediate thought was absolutely not, a Pul MAX. Anyway, imagine him playing with Chytil? Dumbest line ever.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

If you want to take a flier on an aging fringe NHL'er like Blackwell then just recall Brodzinksi and see what he can do. He's having quite the year for the 'Pack.

The only question Brodzinski is the answer to is "Who in Hartford should never wear a Rangers jersey again?"

 

[Doctyl]

Hunt said today that he lives closer to UBS than MSG. Anyone know where the dude is living?

asking for a friend?