Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXVIII

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Seattle isn’t and shouldn’t trade Gourde. The Rangers should have traded for Gourde instead of Goodrow before the expansion draft, but here we are. Seattle has no reason to move him at all.
It would be tough to get Tampa to trade Gourde because they would have lost another forward in the expansion draft.
 
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It would be tough to get Tampa to trade Gourde because they would have lost another forward in the expansion draft.
I don’t think a lot of teams prerogative was to add salary though, which is why Gourde was on expansion list; but now Seattle has a very valuable player who is locked into his deal and thusly will have no motivation to trade him. Don’t remember who else was on their list though; but either way they probably would have dumped some salary which was their goal in the first place maybe they pick Goodrow’s rights instead?
 
I don’t think a lot of teams prerogative was to add salary though, which is why Gourde was on expansion list; but now Seattle has a very valuable player who is locked into his deal and thusly will have no motivation to trade him. Don’t remember who else was on their list though; but either way they probably would have dumped some salary which was their goal in the first place maybe they pick Goodrow’s rights instead?

The motivation to trade is that they are an Expansion team and their future is in the future, not here and now. They'd have to consider a good offer to stock up their draft ammo and prospect pool, and they can use UFA to restock if they don't get a long term player in return.
 
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I don’t think a lot of teams prerogative was to add salary though, which is why Gourde was on expansion list; but now Seattle has a very valuable player who is locked into his deal and thusly will have no motivation to trade him. Don’t remember who else was on their list though; but either way they probably would have dumped some salary which was their goal in the first place maybe they pick Goodrow’s rights instead?
No way they would have picked Goodrow's rights. They would have picked either Killorn, Palat or Matthieu Joseph. Potentially would have freed up a lot of cap for the Lightning, but leaves them down another key forward.
 
Seattle isn’t and shouldn’t trade Gourde. The Rangers should have traded for Gourde instead of Goodrow before the expansion draft, but here we are. Seattle has no reason to move him at all.
It'd have to be a meaty deal. 2-3 top pieces.

The team literally needs everything going forward. We have a deep prospect pool. It's a good match imo IF they were to think about cashing in on him.
 
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It'd have to be a meaty deal. 2-3 top pieces.

The team literally needs everything going forward. We have a deep prospect pool. It's a good match imo IF they were to think about cashing in on him.
Listening to marek and a Seattle reporter was on just crushing the team and commenting how ownership isn't happy bc they have a window right now to grab ahold of the city's attention and they just haven't been good. He made it sound like only a handful of players have competed regularly and specifically named tanev and gourde as the two guys that bring it every game and that embody what the organization wants the team to be. That very much says that gourde is not attainable folks. Time to move on...
 
uh im almost 100% sure blackwell cannot be obtained by the rangers for the entire season due to expansion reasons.
 
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The motivation to trade is that they are an Expansion team and their future is in the future, not here and now. They'd have to consider a good offer to stock up their draft ammo and prospect pool, and they can use UFA to restock if they don't get a long term player in return.
Vegas says Hello.

Not saying Seattle is going to go to the cup final but the standards have changed quite a bit. Having Gourde under a four year deal does not do anything to hurt them and he isn’t exactly going to torpedo his value. They have plenty of others that they would move first.
 
No way they would have picked Goodrow's rights. They would have picked either Killorn, Palat or Matthieu Joseph. Potentially would have freed up a lot of cap for the Lightning, but leaves them down another key forward.
Probably not, but they would likely have dropped his rights there instead of Gourde and kept the core guys they wanted to keep together. Coleman was eligible to get picked as well
 
It'd have to be a meaty deal. 2-3 top pieces.

The team literally needs everything going forward. We have a deep prospect pool. It's a good match imo IF they were to think about cashing in on him.
I don’t agree that they are a good match and I don’t agree that Seattle would moves a guy they have locked into a four year deal. Seattle is over saturated with defensemen just like the Rangers are. Don’t know what is moving the needle for them there. Simply not a fit
 
Listening to marek and a Seattle reporter was on just crushing the team and commenting how ownership isn't happy bc they have a window right now to grab ahold of the city's attention and they just haven't been good. He made it sound like only a handful of players have competed regularly and specifically named tanev and gourde as the two guys that bring it every game and that embody what the organization wants the team to be. That very much says that gourde is not attainable folks. Time to move on...
they need to get rid of their shit GM. That team is going no where fast
 
Every now and again, when I see a team's posters throwing out wild stuff on the main boards, I'll go to the team's page to see if they are a bit more sane there (never post--just to read). Oh dear lord--the Vancouver board is 3x crazier than their main forum posters. They have guys over there who literally think that a year and a half of JT Miller will get them Schneider and Othmann, or Schneider plus a 1st and Zac Jones. It's a bit wacky over there. Miller isn't a multiple 1st rounder plus kind of talent.
 
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Every now and again, when I see a team's posters throwing out wild stuff on the main boards, I'll go to the team's page to see if they are a bit more sane there (never post--just to read). Oh dear lord--the Vancouver board is 3x crazier than their main forum posters. They have guys over there who literally think that a year and a half of JT Miller will get them Schneider and Othmann, or Schneider plus a 1st and Zac Jones. It's a bit wacky over there. Miller isn't a multiple 1st rounder plus kind of talent.

Miller has been a point/game player for the last 2+ seasons now and plays huge minutes in all situations. I think his value is quite high. Surely a 1st+.
 
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Miller has been a point/game player for the last 2+ seasons now and plays huge minutes in all situations. I think his value is quite high. Surely a 1st+.

Seen talk of him going to the Wild possibly for Fiala. Both really good players
 
Miller has been a point/game player for the last 2+ seasons now and plays huge minutes in all situations. I think his value is quite high. Surely a 1st+.

Miller has only had one season where he was over a ppg. He's also coming up on 29 years old and will be on his fourth team (with chatter about locker room issues at some of those stops).

Worth a 1st+? Possibly. I'd even say "usually." The market has been a bit stingy lately, and yielded lesser return than that for better players.

I do know two things for a certainty:

1- He shouldn't be brought here for a 1st+ (we probably can't afford him next season, and we definitely can't afford to re-sign him).
2- He's not worth two 1sts or two 1sts+ from ANYONE.

Schneider and Othmann are both recent first rounders who have each already out-performed their draft position. And they thought Jones would be a throw in to a package already including Schneider and a 1st rounder. If he were worth anywhere near those prices, he wouldn't be available in the first place.
 
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