Then you would have been really shocked by the coach who finished as the runner up to Hakstol;
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The Hurricanes are not trading Fast. They might trade a guy like Niederreiter but the Rangers don’t need another LW. It wouldn’t necessarily shock me if Trocheck was low key available, but if he is, that is because he has been pretty bad this season; but like NN he is going into walk year.
the correct comment is this is how things are handled when a player who slewfooted a player (hartman) isn't a giant p***y (pk subban). the rangers tried to fight subban and he refused. to act like the lighting responded differently is false
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No interest in any guys who can walk after this year, or for that matter who are over like 24, unless they cost less than a second.
Definitely am absolutely, unequivocally opposed to parting with any of our prospects from like, Barron/Robertson level and up, for a rental.
Definitely am absolutely, unequivocally opposed to parting with any of our prospects from like, Barron/Robertson level and up, for a rental.
Subban fought Kreider. He won’t fight Reaves? Ok, then make him turtle and look like a chump. Maybe we get the extra minutes. He does it again? Cheap shot one of their stars.
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As much as Georgiev sucks right now, waiving him to send him down to Hartford would be too risky for this club, even though he could use the minutes down there to get his game back.
You need to have a competent goalie behind Igor, he cant play all of the games. As good as Kinkaid was at times last season and the experience he carries, he is still is just a fringe NHL goalie. Bringing up Huska would also be a risk but one i'd be willing to try if it meant the Rangers could find some stability going forward.
Which leads me to my question: Could the Rangers carry 3 goalies again? Lol yeah - crazy we would be back in that bag again.
Bring up Huska and give him a few starts to see what you have in him, while not risking losing Georgiev? I don't know if its worth disrupting the flexibility with other moves and the roster size - not to mention someone would have to go back down (Hajek).
Listen, about the player - I could care less if Georgiev was claimed - but you need to manage the team. If God forbid Igor went down you'd have Kinkaid and Huska as your 1-2. I'd still feel slightly more confident knowing Georgiev could regain his form if the net were his.
Otherwise you are just hoping for Georgiev to regain form. Unless you can find a suitor in a goalie trade (Kravstov perhaps), but I have no idea who is available and if they are a better option than the 2-3-4 strings the Rangers currently have
You need to have a competent goalie behind Igor, he cant play all of the games. As good as Kinkaid was at times last season and the experience he carries, he is still is just a fringe NHL goalie. Bringing up Huska would also be a risk but one i'd be willing to try if it meant the Rangers could find some stability going forward.
Which leads me to my question: Could the Rangers carry 3 goalies again? Lol yeah - crazy we would be back in that bag again.
Bring up Huska and give him a few starts to see what you have in him, while not risking losing Georgiev? I don't know if its worth disrupting the flexibility with other moves and the roster size - not to mention someone would have to go back down (Hajek).
Listen, about the player - I could care less if Georgiev was claimed - but you need to manage the team. If God forbid Igor went down you'd have Kinkaid and Huska as your 1-2. I'd still feel slightly more confident knowing Georgiev could regain his form if the net were his.
Otherwise you are just hoping for Georgiev to regain form. Unless you can find a suitor in a goalie trade (Kravstov perhaps), but I have no idea who is available and if they are a better option than the 2-3-4 strings the Rangers currently have
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Subban did not fight Kreider. He ran away all period, then the start of the second he wouldn't drop his gloves when Kreider went after him then at the start of the 3rd he sprinted at Kreider and basically tackled him but did it with the goal of specifically not actually fighting but just tangling up. He's a coward and a p***y and would never answer the bell.
So the only real outcome is someone goes after him and he refuses and turtles and we're on a PK with <10 mins in a tie game with no justice or revenge actually served. Doesn't make any sense.
The play is to win the game and then take a number and make him pay next game. Just sucks we don't see NJ again until March.
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The problem is that we have very limited cap space next year. We can easily fit someone with a 6 mil cap hit this year, but next year, we don't have the space. So if we are getting someone with term, it has to be a relatively low cap hit. Or we have to get someone on an expiring contract.
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Well, and I know this will make some posters on here vomit all over their keyboards with rage, but.... I'm not interested in overpaying for a short term rental and I'm ok if that means we aren't taking a swing at winning multiple playoff rounds. I'm even ok selling a player like Strome at the deadline, because the time isn't right for us yet.
I'll pay prospects on ELCs for prospects on ELCs and that will be a wash. I'll trade Nils, Robertson, or Schneider for an equivalent young center on an ELC, if it's the right one. Guys like Alex Newhook come to mind. We aren't talking Zegras or Byfield level, but also a guy with more than just middle six or bottom six grinder potential.
But, like, since we don't have room to add a guy like Larkin, what exactly are our options?
Not interested in coughing up Nils, Robertson, Othmann, a first round pick, etc, to rent Reilly Smith. Just zero interest. He's a 30 year old lesser Chris Kreider. Hard pass, that's not moving the needle for us long term. It just makes us slightly more viable this year, but certainly doesn't elevate us to Cup favorite.
Subban will keep doing it until he gets injured. The Devils coach will continue to condone it until Hughes gets injured. Who are you going to risk for the season just to get an extra two points? Kakko? Fox?
Not shutting down Subban after he slewed Reaves cost us Blais for the season. I’d rather have Blais back than the preseason cred. Who’s next?
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I would argue this is the year to go heavy on rentals, especially when NYR have the ability to take on full contracts to keep the asking price down. I think Kravtsov & the 2021 picks are all in play, but i agree theyd need to be very enticed to trade Lundkvist level prospects for a rental. Reilly Smith, for example, isnt going to cost a prospect of that caliber for a Vegas team that will need the cap space
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Is ownership and management okay with that? Are the other players? If this team is in a playoff spot come the deadline, they aren't going to be sellers.
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God, dealing Kravtsov for a rental is the millenium's worst waste of resources.
What can I get for a second or third? I wouldn't lose my shit over that, perhaps.
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Not arguing what management will do, I'm saying what they SHOULD do.
Management should be forward thinking enough to realize that they are not in a position to overpay for a Cup run just yet.
And if that includes moving Strome if some team offers a haul, so be it.
(please note, a haul is like a Kreider-to-Stars package, not a second round pick)
If a team offers you a 2nd for a couple months of Strome, you take that and run unless another teams wants to pay more.
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I’m not trading Kravtsov for a f’n backup goalie. That being said, I agree that they can’t drop Georgiev unless they can bring a better backup in first. There should be some decent options that won’t necessarily break the bank.
Halak is a guy that makes a ton of sense to me especially with Vancouver imploding. Wanted to sign him during the offseason. Maybe a guy like Griess in Detroit. I’d stay away from a guy like Holtby though.
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Or a f'n rental.
Some people on here have Cup fever. Do they realize that adding Reilly Smith increases our chances to win a Cup from like 3% to 4.5%?
God dammit. Adding a long term piece - or bringing back Kravtsov to be that long term piece - is the way better bet.
No rentals! We have glaring long term needs! Rent when those holes are filled!
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We're trading a 2nd line center for a 2nd round pick before a playoff push? and we're taking it and running?
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if anyone subscribes to Vince,
please, sure would be curious his key points and speculations about who they'd move or what they'd pay, for what type of guy ....
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please, sure would be curious his key points and speculations about who they'd move or what they'd pay, for what type of guy ....
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