Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXVI

[aufheben]

Wouldn't it make sense for someone to try the Kotkaniemi offer sheet with Kakko?

The offer sheet for Kotkaniemi didn’t even make sense. It was purely spite.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

The NHL owners collectively want cap crunches. A cap crunch inherently means that good players will have to flow from good and/or financially secure teams to teams that are less good and/or financially secure. Parity mechanism.

 

[MrAlmost]

Is Krav for Tarasenko still a bad idea? Asking for a friend.

 

[bleedblue94]

Rangers won both those games because they played A)A bad Canadiens team in the first one and B)Their goaltender did his best "Henrik circa 2007-2012" impression in both. They only scored two even strength goals over the course of those two games. Panarin only looked like Panarin again when he was playing away from Chytil. Let's hold the parade planning.

Side note, it's really sad that it seems like most people are actually starting to forget just how good he was during that time. It's borderline comical that he only won the one vezina trophy.

 

[IDvsEGO]

Is Krav for Tarasenko still a bad idea? Asking for a friend.

Yes
Bad cap number long term. And he still hasn’t even shown he’s fully healthy yet.

 

[MrAlmost]

Yes
Bad cap number long term. And he still hasn’t even shown he’s fully healthy yet.

I think retention could make it interesting. Its not long term. Its this year and next. And since Krav aint gonna play for the Rangers anyways, might be a good way to buy low. Sort of buy low. Maybe?

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

See the depressing thing I've been dwelling on of late is that NYR have no actually drafted a star skater since Marc Savard.

Most of our star players, Zibby, Panarin, Nash, Gaborik, McDonagh, Fox, Jagr- We've gotten them via free agency or trade.

We've drafted some 1B players like Cally, Stepan, Dubi, but no real game breakers. No special talent.

We drafted Lundqvist but that was a late round hunch.

Now we have measured projections for Kakko and Lafreniere- that they may be first line players, but it's unlikely they will reach Zibby/Bread level ever.

Nah they’ll be 1st line players once they’re 25. It’s a law of the universal that Rongo forwards can’t produce under the age of 25

 

[bleedblue94]

Chytil had a good preseason, with a hattrick in the last game. Everyone on this team needs to be given some time.

He was actually pretty bad tin the preseason except for the hat trick that he had in the last game..

 

[Pawnee Rangers]

If Kakko and Laff live up to expectations, you can get by with a less than spectacular 2C. If the absolute worst case scenario for your top 6 for the next three seasons is:

Laff - Zib - Kreider
Panarin - Chytil (whoever) - Kakko

Is that really a bad thing?

 

[Bruner4329]

Rangers #2 C has been out for the past two games. Rangers won both. Lets see how they respond by game 10 before saying Chytil can't fill a void.

They won because of insane goal tending and fact that the top line (Zib, CK,Laf) scored and played good enough. There was zip production from the other lines as has been the case in the first 4 games. Panarin got going when he played with Zib and if you read his quotes it is apparent he welcomes the change and is looking forward with playing with Zibs and CK at least until Strome comes back.

 

[Bruner4329]

If Kakko and Laff live up to expectations, you can get by with a less than spectacular 2C. If the absolute worst case scenario for your top 6 for the next three seasons is:

Laff - Zib - Kreider
Panarin - Chytil (whoever) - Kakko

Is that really a bad thing?

The assumption is Chytl is a 2 center which is far from a proven thing. Panarin for one would disagree with your assertion as well even if he does not admit it directly.

 

[Pawnee Rangers]

The assumption is Chytl is a 2 center which is far from a proven thing. Panarin for one would disagree with your assertion as well even if he does not admit it directly.

My assumption is you have a legit 1C in Zib, a legit superstar in Panarin, and two kids who have ceilings of top end forward. You can throw a 40 pt second line center in there (the whoever) and still have one of the better top 6's in the league. If the bulk of your production comes from the wing, who cares?

 

[TheBloodyNine]

It's probably both a way of keeping costs down generally, but the NHL has huge disparities in revenue and income across its teams. If you soften the cap, then certain teams will be able to take advantage of that more than others. If there were a better mechanism for revenue sharing so that teams operating a loss could be allowed to spend on players and build something competitive, then loosening the reigns would make more sense IMO.

Rich teams will always have advantages that poorer teams won't have. Doesn't matter if there is a cap, no cap, soft cap - whatever. The Rangers will always be able to do more than the Coyotes. The Leafs and Canadians will always be able to do more than Ottawa. That the cap creates parity across the league is a myth. Plus, this would absolutely allow teams in smaller markets to keep their players.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Side note, it's really sad that it seems like most people are actually starting to forget just how good he was during that time. It's borderline comical that he only won the one vezina trophy.

Robbed of multiple Vezinas for sure. One of the most consistent goalies to ever play the game.

 

[GAGLine]

I think retention could make it interesting. Its not long term. Its this year and next. And since Krav aint gonna play for the Rangers anyways, might be a good way to buy low. Sort of buy low. Maybe?

As far as we're concerned, that's too long term. We have to pay Fox and Kakko next summer.

 

[RGY]

Yes
Bad cap number long term. And he still hasn’t even shown he’s fully healthy yet.

Looked pretty healthy last night to me. He was flying.

 

[Lion Hound]

Rangers won both those games because they played A)A bad Canadiens team in the first one and B)Their goaltender did his best "Henrik circa 2007-2012" impression in both. They only scored two even strength goals over the course of those two games. Panarin only looked like Panarin again when he was playing away from Chytil. Let's hold the parade planning.

Point is...The won. Both. Lets see if they can replicate that again.

 

[Lion Hound]

They won because of insane goal tending and fact that the top line (Zib, CK,Laf) scored and played good enough. There was zip production from the other lines as has been the case in the first 4 games. Panarin got going when he played with Zib and if you read his quotes it is apparent he welcomes the change and is looking forward with playing with Zibs and CK at least until Strome comes back.

Sometimes all you need is a little puckluck to get it going. Im not convinced that this roster is a non winning entity as it is. Lets see how they develop.

 

[JohnC]

Side note, it's really sad that it seems like most people are actually starting to forget just how good he was during that time. It's borderline comical that he only won the one vezina trophy.

He should’ve gone b2b. Bobrovsky’s win was total bullshit and everyone knows it.

 

[Gr8CornHolio]

The assumption is Chytl is a 2 center which is far from a proven thing. Panarin for one would disagree with your assertion as well even if he does not admit it directly.

we have quite a few drafts to come before this happens there is no guarantee Chytil Will be the 2 c option.

but the original post does make sense if Laf and Kakko develope to where they should be.

Though I don’t recall any scouting reports really calling for kakko being a franchise player but a potential 1st line guy if all went well,

the whole franchise player thing came from our fan base and high hopes

 

[bleedblue94]

Robbed of multiple Vezinas for sure. One of the most consistent goalies to ever play the game.

He made a lot of guys a lot of money that probably didn't deserve it. He covered up so many mistakes and so many bad plays and dragged non playoff level teams into the post season year after year.

Jagr doesn't push a resurgence of this organization if Kevin Weekes was the starting goalie...

 

[IDvsEGO]

we have quite a few drafts to come before this happens there is no guarantee Chytil Will be the 2 c option.

but the original post does make sense if Laf and Kakko develope to where they should be.

Though I don’t recall any scouting reports really calling for kakko being a franchise player but a potential 1st line guy if all went well,

the whole franchise player thing came from our fan base and high hopes

I think Kakko’s ceiling is a hossa clone. 2 way play with 80 points.
Thats not a franchise guy, but if that’s the 2nd best player on your team, that’s a cup winning formula.

 

[Gr8CornHolio]

I think Kakko’s ceiling is a hossa clone. 2 way play with 80 points.
Thats not a franchise guy, but if that’s the 2nd best player on your team, that’s a cup winning formula.

absolutely will take that

 

[bleedblue94]

I think Kakko’s ceiling is a hossa clone. 2 way play with 80 points.
Thats not a franchise guy, but if that’s the 2nd best player on your team, that’s a cup winning formula.

On the teams hossa actually won with he was the 3rd or 4th best player. Having said that I understand the comparable youre trying to make.

 

[TheDirtyH]

On the teams hossa actually won with he was the 3rd or 4th best player. Having said that I understand the comparable youre trying to make.

he was also in his 30s. Atlanta Hossa on the hawks would’ve won 6 straight not 3 in six years.