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Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXVI

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No Reaves today at practice. Look for a Blais-Rooney-Hunt 4th line wednesday night vs caps
 
bobbop said:
Roster is due at 5PM. If no one is on waivers today (or if there isn’t a small trade) then one of Reaves or Strome is probably going to IR and Barron to Hartford.
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I didn't think they could waive someone today, they had to be physically sent down today and clear so that deadline was yesterday?
 
IDvsEGO said:
I think you’re underestimating both barron and Chytil.
Barron has a skill set that I think he can be 2c if he hits his ceiling, and with the talented wingers we have I could absolutely see that.
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I think we're overestimating our talent a bit.

I think Barron CAN be a 2C. More likely a 3C.

But I don't think he's going to be that on an elite team like the Lightning. Or on a multi-time Cup winner like the Penguins.

People are looking at this and saying "good enough." Why? Good enough for what? Good enough to be a contender someday, sure. Is that all we are going for?

Barron is fine. He's a nice player.

Elite teams, however, have elite, embarassment of riches spilling over somewhere, usually in their forward ranks. I just don't think we are quite there.

Another top-6 caliber center would make me feel a lot better - to have Zibanehad - Chytil - Another Chytil.

We have assets. Use them.

We don't need to be tougher - we still need more top talent in the forward corps to be an elite team like most multi-cup winners.
 
mas0764 said:
I feel like we still need a center.

I know Zibanejad - Chytil - Barron is fine, but it's just that.... fine.

Getting one more Chytil or Chytil+ center that would really be in our best interests. Center depth wins.

We've got excess defenders.

One more young top 6 caliber center who can form an elite C trio and insulate against Zibanejad premature injury or decline. Obviously someone cheap, on a rookie deal, etc.
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IDvsEGO said:
I think you’re underestimating both barron and Chytil.
Barron has a skill set that I think he can be 2c if he hits his ceiling, and with the talented wingers we have I could absolutely see that.
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I'm one of the biggest Chytil boosters on here, and I also think we could do with a high upside prospect C. The issue is that we have nothing really in the pipeline at the position who projects as a top 6 pivot. That's part of the reason I want the team to have their 1st rounders for 2022 and 2023 locked up in a vault. Both years are supposed to be crazy deep with high end talent, and would be a prime opportunity to pick up one or more top-6 upside centers for the system.
 
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If Laf doesn't gel so well with Mika woud it be the worst thing in the world to see him on the third line with Chytil and Goodrow? Just throwing it out there. I still wanna see him play on the "top" line.
 
duhmetreE said:
that's an unreasonable ask.
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It's not at all unreasonable. I think this notion that we have too much talent already is our scarred past of not ever having elite forward talent in spades, mixed with a bit of homerism that doesn't want to see our favorite players get the boot.

How many teams have 4-5 capable top9 centers?
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Who needs 5?

I'm saying I'd like one more really good one. Someone who, at least like Chytil, projects to be a good 2C.

If not someone on the roster now, someone in the pipeline for 2 years out.

That depth is ultra important to building a long-term winner. Not trying to "just win one," frankly.

You said yourself Strome is likely to be a self rental, that implies he's gone.

So what, our future center depth is just Zibanejad-Chytil-Barron?

Even if Barron pans out, I don't think it's very reasonable to project him as more than kind of an average third liner. That's a prime spot for a long term upgrade that gives you 2C flexibility and a dominant edge.

We also have the assets to improve it, so there's really no reason to object unless you are emotionally tied to giving Barron the spot for some reason. Not arguing for Jack Eichel or Dylan Larkin on the third line here, talking about overpaying in some of your defensive assets to get a young top 6 guy.
 
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Uninstaaled said:
IF we're looking at straight production, most playoff teams were not as productive as we were down the middle last year.

Theres more to the sport than that for sure, but the center obsession should die, at least for this year where we're adequate at the very least.
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What about when Strome is gone?
 
UAGoalieGuy said:
OFFICIAL: The six alternate captains for #NYR will be Artemi Panarin, Chris Kreider, Mika Zibanejad, Jacob Trouba, Ryan Strome and Barclay Goodrow.

So Fox captain if I'm reading between the lineS.
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Fox as Captain is the right call I think.
 
I somehow have a feeling we still won't see a captain. Which is fine, there is no obvious choice so...
 
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