Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XXVI - Point Of No Return

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Zucc to CAR for Fox and a 1st . Carolina has to know or fear that Fox will not sign, so close to FA.

Hayes ( add Buch if needed ) to MIN for Kaprizov and conditional pick(s)

McQuaid to BOS for a 2nd.
 
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How about you quit with the overreaction. Just as asinine.

Stralman and Boyle would be short term deals at reasonable cap hits. That is the only way you sign them.

Re-signing Hayes after trading him is by no meams egregious. So relax

Never said to throw a blank check at Panarin.

Please spare me the nonsense that my ideas are so outrageous and the worst. Have a drink and relax.

I don’t drink till after 8. ;)

I get wanting to have character vets here for a rebuild, but I think you’re neglecting we already have vets. Zbad, CK, Shatty, Staal, Strome, Fast - they’re all vets.

The next wave of prospects will be coming here next season and the season after that. Hopefully Hajek and Lindgren. Lias. Kravtsov. Still have Buch and Chytil and Howden.

You go and sign 4 players on top of the vets we have now and what are you left with? A team that’s not good enough to win a cup, nor a team bad enough to bottom out for another shot at the lottery.

The last time this team attempted a rebuild was in 04, and Sather went and *****ed that up by trying to stay competitive. He went and traded for Jagr, then got Nylander and Straka.

I want to see us commit to a full rebuild. When I see people suggest we sign players to stay competitive and try and accelerate the rebuild, it just irks me. Sorry if I came off as an ass. I’m just hellbent on seeing this rebuild through the right way.
 
We're all talking about Hayes going but the reality is that Winnipeg is going to go all Tony Amonte with Laine and deal him at the deadline for Zibanejad.
No thank you.

I'd give up our 1st for him though, if we don't hit the lottery or the player we want wont be there.
 
kaprizov is going to be a major problem for Minnesota and he can't come for awhile still they might want to cut their losses and use him as a chip. it would still be a risk for us as there's no guarantee he's coming over. so a first would have to be included

I think Kaprizov is coming over for sure. And the kid is for real. I would hold him higher than Clayton Keller and up towards Barzal.
 
It's a risk. I mean, if he likes where he goes and they knock his socks off with an offer, why wouldn't he stay? We don't even know if JG has any interest in bringing him back, either.

Brooks made it pretty clear they want him back, if they trade him in the first place. And Zucc will return no matter what, if they have a deal, you shouldn't question his loyalty to the Rangers.
 
Brooks made it pretty clear they want him back, if they trade him in the first place. And Zucc will return no matter what, if they have a deal, you shouldn't question his loyalty to the Rangers.

I question Brooks for sure. I mean, where's Kovalchuk? :P

Zucc's "loyalty" will be severely tested this summer. We'll see.
 
What would 3/4ths of the top 6 be

Would that be like Kravstov, Chytil and Kreider’s leg

Or Kreider, Kravstov and both of Chytil’s nipples.

I don’t come here to read calculus
definitely from Jersey :sarcasm:

3/4ths of the top6 wing. 3 players fill 4 spots. 4th spot TBD; more than likely it's Zucc

God help us with our 2C
 
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Brooks made it pretty clear they want him back, if they trade him in the first place. And Zucc will return no matter what, if they have a deal, you shouldn't question his loyalty to the Rangers.

No he didn't.

He simply presented it as a possible avenue that the Rangers may want to visit.

Which means that they also may not.

#learntoread
 
No he didn't.

He simply presented it as a possible avenue that the Rangers may want to visit.

Which means that they also may not.

#learntoread

I think you missed what he wrote..."a very real possibility". That's about as close as he can get without calling it confirmed.
 
If Rangers have 1 D who should play in the top 4, and they scratch him half the games when the other 7 3rd pair defenders are all healthy, at what time does the rebuild train pull into the sign expensive free agent station?
 
I think you missed what he wrote..."a very real possibility". That's about as close as he can get without calling it confirmed.

What Larry actually wrote:

"Now, listen. Nothing would be set in stone. No promises have been made. The idea is germinating as the opportunity presents itself. Indeed, general manager Jeff Gorton and his lieutenants must steer clear of any suggestion of pre-tampering. And this type of approach would be fraught with risk, for there is always the possibility that no matter how often Zuccarello and Hayes pledge their loyalty to Broadway, they could, A) fall in love with their new environs once traded and decide to re-up with their new teams; or, B) be overwhelmed with offers the Rangers might not be able to (or care to) match when they become free agents."

Not even remotely close to being "confirmed". It's Uncle Larry speculating. And Uncle Larry has been wrong plenty.
 
OK, then. No, I don't think his play will take that kind of a nosedive, but we should respect the possibility that it might.

Ok, with that said and your previous reference to rarity, what major players RECENTLY (as we all know there was a lack of attention to physical conditioning years ago) on Panarin’s level have we seen production take a massive nose dive at 31-32 years old?

Lecavalier, Richards and Vanek are 3 I think of. What do they all have in common? Game became too fast for guys who weren’t fleet of foot to begin with. Panarin doesn’t have that problem.

Not only that, but we have posters here lobbying to bring Zuccarello back ala the Yankees with Aroldis Chapman and he’s already 31 going on 32. If that’s the case, there should be not a single worry about Panarin, who will more than likely still be very productive, if not at this level or close to it then, when he’s a superior player to Zuccarello. If Panarin had not established that he didn’t need Patrick Kane to produce, then I’d be wary, but this is a truly elite player.

I understand the concern, but this team with Panarin and the right adds and the prospects panning out could compete in 3 years at best case scenario, 5 at the worst, in which he’s still a key cog.
 
I question Brooks for sure. I mean, where's Kovalchuk? :P

Zucc's "loyalty" will be severely tested this summer. We'll see.

I personally spoke with Igor Eronko, had him on my radio show and he had him coming here too. It wasn’t just Brooks that was wrong. I know it’s a tongue in cheek type comment, but I think a lot of that had to do with the direction of the team. If Kovalchuk knew LA was in for the nosedive they’ve taken, I think he would have signed with the Rangers, all things equal.
 
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