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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XXIX

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haohmaru said:
I really don't see Gorton taking on a Lucic/Horton type contract at all. We'll see.
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There's a huge difference between the two contracts. Lucic has 4 x $6m after this season on a buyout proof contract. Horton is due $5.5m next year only and can be put on LTIR for a capped team. Different worlds.
 
Trxjw said:
The real question is, if the Canes wanted to move a D for Nylander, why didn't it get done earlier in the season? That's a weird dynamic they have going.
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It didn't get done because Toronto didn't want to move Nylander.
 
Caps are 22nd in PK%. You have to imagine they look at Hagelin as a key player in addressing some PK concerns that they have. He'll be on their 3rd/4th line and eat up PK time. Jaskin is not a guy who can do that. DSP? He could, but he's on waivers. I expect him to be claimed.
 
I am no expert but Nylander is someone who doesn't scream elite.... so expectations with a prime offensive role is 70pts per year?
 
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cheech70 said:
I am no expert but Nylander is someone who doesn't scream elite.... so expectations with a prime offensive role is 70pts per year?
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I project him as a high-end first liner in the 65-70 point range. I don't see him as a center, but as a play-making winger like Alex Tanguay. His contract is just about right for a player of that caliber. Maybe a couple hundred thousand too much but still in the ball-park.

He's the perfect compliment to a right-handed, shoot-first center like Zibanejad, in my opinion.
 
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Trxjw said:
I project him as a high-end first liner in the 65-70 point range. I don't see him as a center, but as a play-making winger like Alex Tanguay. His contract is just about right for a player of that caliber. Maybe a couple hundred thousand too much but still in the ball-park.

He's the perfect compliment to a right-handed, shoot-first center like Zibanejad, in my opinion.
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His d-zone exit and o-zone entries are top level. Puck possession and being able to transition the puck from your own zone to a scoring chance in the current league is huge.
 
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DutchShamrock said:
His d-zone exit and o-zone entries are top level. Puck possession and being able to transition the puck from your own zone to a scoring chance in the current league is huge.
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Yeah he's fantastic on the rush. His cycle game is so-so, but if he was on a line with Zib and Kreider it could be absolute magic. Unfortunately you're looking at dealing Kreider to get a piece like Nylander in return.
 
Trxjw said:
I project him as a high-end first liner in the 65-70 point range. I don't see him as a center, but as a play-making winger like Alex Tanguay. His contract is just about right for a player of that caliber. Maybe a couple hundred thousand too much but still in the ball-park.

He's the perfect compliment to a right-handed, shoot-first center like Zibanejad, in my opinion.
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If a deal like that came together, it could turn out to be another Zibanejad/Brassard like deal (although I think Kreider has a few more prime years left).
 
wafflepadsave said:
Not if Ottawa has anything to do with it.
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I assume you're alluding to Duchene also holding up the market? I agree, to an extent. I just feel like his acquisition price will drive away a good number of teams that are interested in him...Hayes is probably next on most of their lists.
 
Just for something different, some speculation from a Vegas beat writer:



@bobbop mentioned Vegas had talked to the Rangers at some point and noted Shattenkirk could be an upgrade for them. Stands to reason they'd ship out a RHD to accommodate him. Miller would be appealing to a number of teams as a chip. Add Shattenkirk, then move Miller as a piece in a deal for a Stone or something.

Probably nothing, but at least it's not the same old.
 
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Trxjw said:
Just for something different, some speculation from a Vegas beat writer:



@bobbop mentioned Vegas had talked to the Rangers at some point and noted Shattenkirk could be an upgrade for them. Stands to reason they'd ship out a RHD to accommodate him. Miller would be appealing to a number of teams as a chip. Add Shattenkirk, then move Miller as a piece in a deal for a Stone or something.

Probably nothing, but at least it's not the same old.
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I’ll take Miller as the return for Shattenkirk:naughty:
 
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Not for nothing but Miller checks a lot of the boxes for what we’ve been rumored to be looking for. A 20 something right handed top 4 dman
 
Trxjw said:
Well, Miller's going to be 27 at the start of next season. Not sure he's a guy the Rangers look to bring in and build around. Might be a guy they could flip though.
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Would be an actually good stop gap player for a few years then when some RD prospects are ready to be full time NHLers you can trade him
 
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What exactly happened to Nylander? Is it that he's not playing with Mathews anymore? Haven't watched many Leafs games

Him for Kreider would actually be a decent trade I think... Leafs get a guy in his prime with plenty of playoff experience and we get a younger, (presumably) higher upside player that should hit his prime around the time we're competing again
 
ThirdEye said:
What exactly happened to Nylander? Is it that he's not playing with Mathews anymore? Haven't watched many Leafs games

Him for Kreider would actually be a decent trade I think... Leafs get a guy in his prime with plenty of playoff experience and we get a younger, (presumably) higher upside player that should hit his prime around the time we're competing again
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He missed a bunch of the season and has been playing catch-up.
 
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