Dallas? Canes? Who? With today's standings and playoff ambitions who would you guys think are the top 3 suitors?
Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XXIV
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Dallas? Canes? Who? With today's standings and playoff ambitions who would you guys think are the top 3 suitors?
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Both Hayes and Zucc will be traded, and neither will be back. Karlsson isn't signing here as a UFA, both because I don't believe we'll offer him a contract and because even if we did, why the hell would he sign up to play for a rebuilding team?
Even if that lineup did somehow come to fruition, it's still not good enough to win anything.
Yeah, it's strange. Keeps referring to how Hayes has been the Ranger's best player the last 2 seasons? What an accomplishment.
Tough to say, but I personally think it'd be wise for Gorton to attempt to jump the market. Its possible quite a few better players than Hayes might become available over the next few weeks.
Oh yeah who are they?
Skjei? Yeah he is light years better than Gilmour and I have been on his back since game 1.
McQuaid? Stanley Cup winner at the NHL level McQuaid? Who has a net front presence, plays a physical game and serves a purpose here. Team has been much better when he is in the lineup.
Shattenkirk? Established NHL defenseman who’s defense was never nearly as bad as Gilmour’s is at his age and who’s offense outweighed any defensive mistakes.
Smith? Also a guy who at one point proved he could play defense in the NHL. Now a veteran who rotates in and out of the lineup, mostly out, but is physical, big, and had at least some defensive attributes even if it isnt many at this point.
Claesson, veteran 6/7 defenseman.
Pionk is better and he is also one who I have been on as needing to improve. But at least you see some potential to work on his game and be a 5/6 in this league.
ADA is certainly better. His defense isnt perfect but he does a lot offensively. He isnt just a skater out there. He makes things happen. And if you really think his defensive zone work is bad then you werent paying attention to Gilmour last season.
Lindgren, light years better defensively. Light years. That is how bad Gilmour was last season.
Say No to Gilmour. Worst defenseman at actually playing any lick of defense in the past 25 years i have watched hockey. The worst.
Hayes absolutely has to be traded by the deadline.
Zucc too. With Zucc the minute there is a reasonable deal on the table JG needs to take it.
McQuaid needs to net a 3rd rounder. I think a team in contention will come along and want his veteran presence. SC on is resume.
Nams can stay or go. Would not be upset if they decided to hang onto him.
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I'm always hesitant to compare Tampa numbers to a lot of other teams anyway.
As we've seen over the more recent years, a 70 point pace in the right situation in Tampa can be equal to half that elsewhere.
Groin injuries can be wierd and come back to couse discomfort pretty easily especially for a pro athlete.
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Nothing wrong with Howden getting a night off. He's been struggling for awhile.
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Howden shouldn't sit. He should play in the AHL.
We're talking about a player who, over the last 30 games (300+ mins), has the 3rd lowest shot rate in the league, 15th lowest point rate, 7th worst CF60, worst CA60, thurs worst CF%, 20th worst GF60, 11th worst GA60, 2nd worst GF%. You could honestly make the argument he's been the worst regular forward in the league in this timeframe. He's not ready and I don't understand why he has held a spot and got so much ice time for so long. He should play big minutes in a more offensive role against lesser competition.
I am not really sure why he wasn't there a while ago. It's not like he already has an extensive history of playing there with great production. He's played 5 AHL games in his career and that was two years ago.
We're talking about a player who, over the last 30 games (300+ mins), has the 3rd lowest shot rate in the league, 15th lowest point rate, 7th worst CF60, worst CA60, thurs worst CF%, 20th worst GF60, 11th worst GA60, 2nd worst GF%. You could honestly make the argument he's been the worst regular forward in the league in this timeframe. He's not ready and I don't understand why he has held a spot and got so much ice time for so long. He should play big minutes in a more offensive role against lesser competition.
I am not really sure why he wasn't there a while ago. It's not like he already has an extensive history of playing there with great production. He's played 5 AHL games in his career and that was two years ago.
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Lol and Andersson is suspect to even be an NHL player because he's 20 and only playing well in the AHL.
Oh without a doubt! unless you are stuck there on a 4th line with a center you have no chemistry with and who cannot make a play to save his life and get the short end of the stick in ice time and opportunities. Then you can compare.
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It would be a good time to do it now too. Let him go down for a month. In a month's time, there will be lineup spots opening with trades.
He's only 20. There's nothing wrong with him having to go down to the AHL. He had nearly all his points before Thanksgiving. He's been struggling bad.
Howden jumped from playing in Canadian juniors straight to the NHL basically. He can be a 2/3c in this league. Needs more time
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Right from the get go - what's wrong with Howden sitting out one game when you're a rookie (who's hit this proverbial rookie wall hard)? Did he already sit out a lot of games? I don't get this up in arms stance on every little thing.
P.S. Plus why does this even matter to you if you've already concluded that Howden's ceiling is 4C?
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I agree he needs to go to the AHL and get top line minutes. It sucks because I would want him getting 1C minutes but you have Lias needing those too.
You have Boo up. Hayes is back.
Dont know why Lindgren didnt get recalled. He should be playing over Smith/Claesson/Pionk. McQuaid needs to play to help clean up the front of the net and show some physical presence in the lineup.
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Rangers also need to showcase tradeable assets. Like it or not, Howden hasn't been lighting up the score sheet. Need to get points to some players before the trade deadline to pad some stats going into negotiations/for scouts to see.
Also, him learning in the press box is not a bad thing.
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Now is the perfect time. When late February comes, Hayes will be gone and who knows who else. They'll need him to fill the lineup. Now they can play Hayes/Mika/Boo/Names at C if they need while Howden plays in the AHL.
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