Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXII

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I’d much rather have Colin White than Logan Brown if we’re dealing Strome to OTT. I’d add pieces on both ends to balance out the value

I rather keep Strome if those are my options

 

[DialUp]

flyers will continue to be terrible as long as AV is there.

this team was over .500 last year with a bunch of things that went wrong and a moron HC. I don’t know why we’d expect them to be worse next year. Unless you’re counting OT losses then yeah they were barely under, but the aforementioned points still stand.

I don't think the team will be worse, it should be a much more competitive team overall (less blowout losses, but potentially less blowout wins too). What has to go right is Kakko, Krav, Laf, and Miller (Nils too a bit) need to become the difference makers, because our vet core has proven to not be enough.

To make the playoffs in the East this year, your team has to be over true .500, not just NHL .500. It will be a very competitive conference, I do not think the playoff teams from last year will go down easily, they each have at least one more left in the tank. Should be a war. Not much is going to separate the 3rd place teams plus the wild cards in each division.

 

[haohmaru]

I don't think the team will be worse, it should be a much more competitive team overall (less blowout losses, but potentially less blowout wins too). What has to go right is Kakko, Krav, Laf, and Miller (Nils too a bit) need to become the difference makers, because our vet core has proven to not be enough.

To make the playoffs in the East this year, your team has to be over true .500, not just NHL .500. It will be a very competitive conference, I do not think the playoff teams from last year will go down easily, they each have at least one more left in the tank. Should be a war. Not much is going to separate the 3rd place teams plus the wild cards in each division.

Who is our "vet core" exactly? Kreider and Zibanejad?

 

[DialUp]

Who is our "vet core" exactly? Kreider and Zibanejad?

Trouba and panarin. Buch, fast and Smith were too when they were here. I suppose we don't even have much of a core, but yeah when they were all together they did fck all.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Trouba and panarin. Buch, fast and Smith were too when they were here. I suppose we don't even have much of a core, but yeah when they were all together they did fck all.

what does Panarin have to prove? Lol

 

[DialUp]

what does Panarin have to prove? Lol

For one, it seems he only high kicks with his left leg. Can he do it with both? At the same time? Is this the year?

 

[Avery16]

I rather keep Strome if those are my options

Except he’s a pending UFA. What if keeping him costs 7 mill per?

 

[jay from jersey]

Phila will have a much better season next year too, so there's that to contend with. I think a ton needs to go just right for us to be over actual 500 enough to beat out wash and or Pitt.

To make the playoffs, this team regardless who is ultimately on it, cannot allow the devils to win their version of the cup against us.

Philly will be better and so will the devils. Even if both teams aren’t playoff caliber, they should be better then what they were last season and always give us problems no matter what the standings look like.
The devils are actually starting to add depth. The have some interesting kids coming and Hughes is always a pain in the ass. Hamilton Graves, Severson and Smith isn’t a terrible top 4.
I doubt we’ll be seeing an AHL roster plus 2-3 guys like last year.

 

[jay from jersey]

Except he’s a pending UFA. What if keeping him costs 7 mill per?

I’m pretty worried that they might feel this way. Especially if he does well numbers wise this season. Wouldn’t be a good situation for chytil or wanting a kid to get more min on the PP.
I know people think Gallant is going to do a better job at spreading out minutes, but your fooling yourselves if you don’t think he’s going to have his favs like Quinn.
We just have to hope our kids are some of his favs. LaF and kakko are thoroughbreds. I’d like to see them be unleashed a bit. Let em run.with the moves we made, we should have a bit more insulation for them.

 

[Fitzy]

Except he’s a pending UFA. What if keeping him costs 7 mill per?

Then you let him go to UFA.

We are past the stage of the rebuild where we have to trade every expiring contract, IMO

 

[Avery16]

I’m pretty worried that they might feel this way. Especially if he does well numbers wise this season. Wouldn’t be a good situation for chytil or wanting a kid to get more min on the PP.
I know people think Gallant is going to do a better job at spreading out minutes, but your fooling yourselves if you don’t think he’s going to have his favs like Quinn.
We just have to hope our kids are some of his favs. LaF and kakko are thoroughbreds. I’d like to see them be unleashed a bit. Let em run.with the moves we made, we should have a bit more insulation for them.

If we trade Buchnevich for Blais so we wouldn’t have to pay him 5.8 million but then turn around and pay Strome 7…

…

… holy hell.

 

[Avery16]

Then you let him go to UFA.

We are past the stage of the rebuild where we have to trade every expiring contract, IMO

And yet we aren’t at the stage to take calculated losses of assets like that because there’s a chance it gets us the Cup.

 

[Fitzy]

And yet we aren’t at the stage to take calculated losses of assets like that because there’s a chance it gets us the Cup.

See I think we aren’t to “spend assets for rentals” phase, but a self rental is fine IMO.

We gave Shanahan a one year deal in 2006 and didn’t send him away at the deadline. Making the playoffs will be valuable to this club even if our cup odds aren’t amazing and Strome helps with that.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

I’m fine in rolling with Strome and seeing how the season progresses, if there isn’t a good deal that makes sense for this team longer term to address the top 2 center positions.

You shop him if the playoffs aren’t on the radar. His value will increase in season anyway. If they get to the dance and want to hold onto him that’s OK too.

I don’t think his value is very high around the league so his value will be worth more to the Rangers than just trading him just to make a deal and not lose him for nothing.

 

[Barnaby]

You don't understand, we need to dig up any old vet name and give him a tryout, it is that time of year of the offseason

Is Nedved still skating...?

 

[Alluckks]

Is Nedved still skating...?

Near the of his time with the Rangers when he would have bad stretches my Dad would call him deadved because he said he looked like a dead fish out there

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

You don't understand, we need to dig up any old vet name and give him a tryout, it is that time of year of the offseason

Patrick Marleau

 

[Barnaby]

If Vegas retained $1 million on Reilly Smith would a $4 million AAV on the 3rd line look bad?

Kreider-Goodrow-Smith?

Malkin/Crosby is an interesting play. Much less likely that Pittsburgh would deal Crosby as much as there was some drummed up speculation during last season. More likely they deal Malkin. That $9.5 AAV is too much for a guy who can’t stay healthy. And Malkin is a free agent after next season. What would he want on his next deal? Malkin just turned 35 two weeks ago. Crosby would be the “safer” play at 34. Cap hit is $8.7 AAV. Could you get Pittsburgh to retain $1-$2 million on that and hope that Crosby has at least 3 great years left in him?

Strome would offset some of the cost in another deal for this year and you get a big upgrade at Center.

Brian Burke and Ron Hextall didn’t take jobs in Pitt to turn around and trade Crosby. Malkin? Maybe due to his health issues, but even that I doubt. They want to win again with Sid.

 

[Barnaby]

I honestly rather trade Strome for draft picks. We have too many players as is. If we're gonna let the kids play, let them play 'to their strengths'.

I honestly would really want unprotected Vegas' 2023 1st. I can see that team falling apart soon and having a 'disaster season'. We've had insane luck, it'd be amazing to top it off with a 'traded pick' that turns into a lottery.

The Rangers are beyond accumulating picks at this point. If another center came in a separate trade then maybe they move Strome for futures. Otherwise, no chance. Vegas is also a cap team so they’d have to send money back in this scenario.

 

[Barnaby]

Except he’s a pending UFA. What if keeping him costs 7 mill per?

Id prefer an upgrade otherwise I’m keeping Strome unless this team is out of it at the deadline. This team is beyond scrapping seasons for magic beans. You don’t kill playoff odds to add a 2nd and a B prospect. If that’s the scenario then you just let him walk in free agency.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

You don't understand, we need to dig up any old vet name and give him a tryout, it is that time of year of the offseason

Time to bring back Erik "1C" Christensen

 

[duhmetreE]

The Rangers are beyond accumulating picks at this point. If another center came in a separate trade then maybe they move Strome for futures. Otherwise, no chance. Vegas is also a cap team so they’d have to send money back in this scenario.

Strome wont be bringing back another center. ( unless Drury pulls a rabbit out of his ass ) If he's moved it creates an opportunity for Chytil. Long shots for Barron and/or Kravtsov.

I still think Dvorak is the move. From what it sounds like, the 1st rounder is the clincher.

 

[Barnaby]

Strome wont be bringing back another center. ( unless Drury pulls a rabbit out of his ass ) If he's moved it creates an opportunity for Chytil. Long shots for Barron and/or Kravtsov.

I still think Dvorak is the move. From what it sounds like, the 1st rounder is the clincher.

Im not sold that Dvorak is necessarily an upgrade over Strome or Chytil so I’d be fine going into the season as is at this point. Ideally I’d like a trade for a higher end 2C, but if it’s not a clear upgrade then I’ll stick with Strome who we know has chemistry with Panarin.

... and I agree, Strome isn’t going for a different center. He would likely be the follow up move.

 

[Mac n Gs]

I rather keep Strome if those are my options

Fair, but I don’t think there’s any way they can keep Strome beyond this season. If he’s a self rental, then so be it, but signing him would be a mistake

 

[IDvsEGO]

Im not sold that Dvorak is necessarily an upgrade over Strome or Chytil so I’d be fine going into the season as is at this point. Ideally I’d like a trade for a higher end 2C, but if it’s not a clear upgrade then I’ll stick with Strome who we know has chemistry with Panarin.

... and I agree, Strome isn’t going for a different center. He would likely be the follow up move.

My only problem with keeping strome at the start of the season is that it means we're likely to have chytil on the third line, and i dont think thats the best use of him.