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Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXII

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Edge said:
Strangely enough I don't really view the second line spot as a concern. It's nailing down the first line spot and having someone who is ideally suited to the third line, rather than just plugging in the guy who didn't win the second line spot.

I just don't see myself spending too much time thinking about Dvorak in a world where we're trying to figure out what to do with Strome, looking to give Chytil the chance to take that next step, needing to make a decision on our top center spot, and potentially looking to free up a slot to allow Goodrow to take the third line spot and possibly have Barron there in the reasonably near future.
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The Rangers hired Ryan Martin as their AGM. Martin knows Dylan Larkin better than anyone. Martin and Larkin have been associated with USA Hockey. Martin had been in Detroit for a long time(2005) and Larkin grew up in Michigan. Martin was part of the management team which selected Larkin in 2014. Martin has negotiated two contracts with Larkin's agent. If Drury wanted intel on what Steve Yzerman's plans are for Larkin, Martin would know.
 
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RangerBoy said:
The Rangers hired Ryan Martin as their AGM. Martin knows Dylan Larkin better than anyone. Martin and Larkin have been associated with USA Hockey. Martin had been in Detroit for a long time(2005) and Larkin grew up in Michigan. Martin was part of the management team which selected Larkin in 2014. Martin has negotiated two contracts with Larkin's agent. If Drury wanted intel on what Steve Yzerman's plans are for Larkin, Martin would know.
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This is the first thing I thought of when I saw Ryan Martin was the hire. Drury didn't hire Martin solely for that reason, but where there's smoke...
 
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The Rangers hired Ryan Martin as their AGM. Martin knows Dylan Larkin better than anyone. Martin and Larkin have been associated with USA Hockey. Martin had been in Detroit for a long time(2005) and Larkin grew up in Michigan. Martin was part of the management team which selected Larkin in 2014. Martin has negotiated two contracts with Larkin's agent. If Drury wanted intel on what Steve Yzerman's plans are for Larkin, Martin would know.
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Panarin came after JD... Larkin coming after Martin?

I've been seeing the writing on the wall.. Kravtsov is going to be moved and @EdJovanovski will be inconsolable and unrecognizable
 
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Can Larkin and Zibs exist on the same team? Or is Mika moved to a 'contender' like Vegas?

Hypothetically speaking, I'd be more than OK with a Larkin-Krebs return.
 
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I Eat Crow said:
Honestly? I'm game. That center group compliments the young forward group really well. I would hesitate to trade Kravtsov if Buchnevich is out of the picture. I think any Larkin package starts with Lundkvist and goes from there.
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Trading Lundkvist over Kravtsov makes a lot more sense in my mind. Jones could fill in for the time being until Schneider is ready
 
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duhmetreE said:
Trading Lundkvist over Kravtsov makes a lot more sense in my mind. Jones could fill in for the time being until Schneider is ready
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I do think any Larkin deal involving him going to the Rangers would happen next summer when the Rangers would be able to discuss an extension with him.

I think the plan right now is to self rent Strome and see where the team is at around the deadline. If Chytil is bossing shit and looks ready for top 6 duty, and/or the Rangers aren't in the playoff race (if they're not, something went horribly wrong), they'll trade Strome and recoup a couple of assets. These two scenarios are not mutually exclusive though. The Rangers could be ass but Chytil could look awesome sliding up, for, say, Mika Zibanejad if he goes down with an injury, but I'll bite my tongue on that one.

My preference is to add Larkin to Zibaneajad, but if for one reason or another extension talks go badly and Zib is dealt for a player like Newhook, Krebs, or Turcotte, and you add Larkin to that player and Chytil, you could do a lot worse.
 
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I Eat Crow said:
I also would not have given up a premium prospect and a 1st rounder when Larkin can just as well bolt in 2023.
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Agreed, which as much as i wanted Larkin to start the season, getting him at the TDL would prob be much more attainable and we can see what we have already.
 
bobbop said:
Speaking specifically about Arizona, they have an awful drafting history. They haven't had a lot of top five picks but when they did, they royally screwed it up. They haven't done much better beyond that either.

They have clearly signaled their intention to tank this (and probably next) season. So far this summer, they have acquired six players who could have been bought out or buried in the minors. They have accumulated a lot of draft picks over the next couple of years for taking on this dreck.

What is awful (living here) is that the last time they went all out to tank (2015), I got to watch some of the worst hockey I've seen in years. I worked in minor league hockey and I can tell you what I saw here was as bad as anything I ever saw in the old Eastern League. I think of that year and see a "coming soon" on this season.

This season, the Coyotes move into the much tougher Central Division. With a cash poor owner, a depleted roster and for sale signs on the few assets they have left, I just don't know how much life there is left in this franchise. I know that has been said before but this time I think it's a definite reality.
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I am hoping it results in even cheaper tickets
 
bobbop said:
Speaking specifically about Arizona, they have an awful drafting history. They haven't had a lot of top five picks but when they did, they royally screwed it up. They haven't done much better beyond that either.

They have clearly signaled their intention to tank this (and probably next) season. So far this summer, they have acquired six players who could have been bought out or buried in the minors. They have accumulated a lot of draft picks over the next couple of years for taking on this dreck.

What is awful (living here) is that the last time they went all out to tank (2015), I got to watch some of the worst hockey I've seen in years. I worked in minor league hockey and I can tell you what I saw here was as bad as anything I ever saw in the old Eastern League. I think of that year and see a "coming soon" on this season.

This season, the Coyotes move into the much tougher Central Division. With a cash poor owner, a depleted roster and for sale signs on the few assets they have left, I just don't know how much life there is left in this franchise. I know that has been said before but this time I think it's a definite reality.
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We can always try Atlanta again :laugh: I honestly think it would work if it was in Far North Atlanta/Alpharetta.

It's sad though. I hope they stick and have god-tier drafts these upcoming years. Land a Bedard or Wright and by some miracle sign Auston Matthews
 
duhmetreE said:
We can always try Atlanta again :laugh: I honestly think it would work if it was in Far North Atlanta/Alpharetta.

It's sad though. I hope they stick and have god-tier drafts these upcoming years. Land a Bedard or Wright and by some miracle sign Auston Matthews
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That would literally repeat the arizona issue all over again. There is no way to get to alpharetta without a car. 400 is already a nightmare. If cobb ever developed actual public transportation id say near the braves stadium, but otherwise maybe decatur? Theres some space near the rail yard that would work well.
 
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bobbop said:
Speaking specifically about Arizona, they have an awful drafting history. They haven't had a lot of top five picks but when they did, they royally screwed it up. They haven't done much better beyond that either.

They have clearly signaled their intention to tank this (and probably next) season. So far this summer, they have acquired six players who could have been bought out or buried in the minors. They have accumulated a lot of draft picks over the next couple of years for taking on this dreck.

What is awful (living here) is that the last time they went all out to tank (2015), I got to watch some of the worst hockey I've seen in years. I worked in minor league hockey and I can tell you what I saw here was as bad as anything I ever saw in the old Eastern League. I think of that year and see a "coming soon" on this season.

This season, the Coyotes move into the much tougher Central Division. With a cash poor owner, a depleted roster and for sale signs on the few assets they have left, I just don't know how much life there is left in this franchise. I know that has been said before but this time I think it's a definite reality.
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Where can you see them relocating to? Houston? They have to stay in the Western Conference for balance purposes. Arizona has been nothing but a failure by Bettman, but hey, Auston Matthews wouldn’t exist without a team there.
 
IDvsEGO said:
That would literally repeat the arizona issue all over again. There is no way to get to alpharetta without a car. 400 is already a nightmare. If cobb ever developed actual public transportation id say near the braves stadium, but otherwise maybe decatur? Theres some space near the rail yard that would work well.
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That's the problem.. there will most likely never be public transportation going up north.

Tampa does just fine in Channelside and everyone drives. Jeff Vinik has done a phenomenal job developing the surrounding area.. IMO Tampa is the model to copycat, they created an amazing experience for fans

IMO it would need to be out of the perimeter and north.
 
duhmetreE said:
That's the problem.. there will most likely never be public transportation going up north.

Tampa does just fine in Channelside and everyone drives. Jeff Vinik has done a phenomenal job developing the surrounding area.. IMO Tampa is the model to copycat, they created an amazing experience for fans

IMO it would need to be out of the perimeter and north.
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I get the logic of out of the perimeter, but that also makes it a giant pain for any out of town travelers, but yeah most of the atlanta hockey crowd is out of the perimeter.
 
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