"Shattenkirk is a advertised". Ok, just going to leave that one alone.
Technically, this is also true for Smith. Definitely the biggest contract he'll ever get, and it looks like his prime years (as they are) were all in Detroit.
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Technically, this is also true for Smith. Definitely the biggest contract he'll ever get, and it looks like his prime years (as they are) were all in Detroit.
You could read it as we sign every big bad contract available. I don't think thats realistic of any team in the Cap.
You could also read it as every big contract we hand out to a UFA is based off their success with another team and is subsequently a bust for us. I think this was the intended reading, and accurate.
Richard Banger
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Our top 5 pick will be a forward. Our Forward core is way better of than our Dcore right now. It will be easier and quicker to fix... fix the small thing first then you can put all your focus on the big thing.
Your equating it to gain muscle first and then lose fat. Where as Fat is going to be the easiest thing to do and the fastest.
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Signing Panarin does nothing for us but make us a little less of a bottom feeder, we still won’t make the playoffs. And by the time we’re ready to actually compete we will have a declining player in Panarin and a cap hit we can’t get rid of. We should be looking for kids in the draft that can be a Panarin for us, that we can actually have on cheaper cap hits through their prime years.
Richard Banger
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That depends on when you personally think they will be ready to compete and when you think panarin as a player will start to decline.
I'll asterisk this with also trading for young, cost-controlled talent when its available.
I don't think Panarin at 30 (or still in the first half of his next contract) will be a PPG player anymore.
Richard Banger
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I'd rather not confirm publicly, but it's a market where they are banking on making the Playoffs. It's not a financially struggling market, but their management is expecting playoff revenue.
Its an opinion based on a league-wide trend, but of course you're free to disagree
Tawnos
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Which, by the way, is essentially what Gorton is trying to do. He's acquired 5 defensive prospects from outside the organization in the last 18 months. The last draft, he took 6 D in 10 picks, including 5 of the first 7. The draft has been an interesting approach, taking forwards early, but D later. The top-10 in D scoring last season had 3 1st rounders in the 15-30 range, 3 outside the first round, 3 top-5 picks, and 1 UDFA. Meanwhile, the top-10 F scoring last season had 7 top-5 picks, 2 other 1st round picks, and 1 2nd round pick.
The message here seems to be that you can find value among defensemen later in the draft more easily than you can among forwards.
Richard Banger
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And my opinion is based on physical health, sports medicine and modern technology along with a few other variables.
Tawnos
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Out west, among bubble teams, Dallas, Edmonton, Minnesota, Colorado, and Anaheim all potentially fit that mold. Maybe Vancouver too, but I think playoffs this year was probably a year ahead of their expected timeline.
In the east, I'd say Columbus, the Islanders, and Buffalo fit that mold. Hard to imagine Boston or Montreal is "banking" on making the playoffs.
You can just say it's one of those 11 teams... which is a third of the league
The problem isn't with player evaluation. Its with projecting out past a single season. None of us knows what Panarin will look like three seasons from now, let alone EIGHT. We all should know what the cap hit will look like eight seasons from now, because we've now lived through that a few times over. But there's also a lot of willful ignorance going around.
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What goes into your personal evaluation of how Panarin will be producing in seasons 3 through 8 of his next contract?
Irishguy42
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I don't think he'll have a significant drop production until Year 6 or 7, which is great. He might slow down a touch in Year 5, but that's still great points production.
This doesn't mean anything.
He has 4-11-15 in 17 playoff games. That actually means something.
LeetchisGod
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That is a prediction. I'm asking for the basis of your prediction. Evaluation isn't hoping and dreaming, after all.
It means something for first round performances. Beyond that, not a lot.
Out west, among bubble teams, Dallas, Edmonton, Minnesota, Colorado, and Anaheim all potentially fit that mold. Maybe Vancouver too, but I think playoffs this year was probably a year ahead of their expected timeline.
In the east, I'd say Columbus, the Islanders, and Buffalo fit that mold. Hard to imagine Boston or Montreal is "banking" on making the playoffs.
You can just say it's one of those 11 teams... which is a third of the league
Haha well, I would say that fellow posters are much better at guessing than others. Out in the west, there are quite a few owners who aren't afraid of spending, while some of those teams are more cost conscious. Within that sub-set, a couple of them are front-loaders when it comes to contracts. Then within that group, you have signing bonus and injury woes.
Tawnos
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Tawnos
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The only teams I see spending way more on signing bonuses are Washington and Toronto, but neither of them are worried about missing the playoffs are they?
Although maximizing playoff revenue is a whole other story.
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