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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XXI - Let's make a deal

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Edge said:
So essentially, Strome is to Panarin what Nylander was to Jagr --- a player of some talent, whose talents are exploited and magnified because he has chemistry with a star.
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Yup. And there is NOTHING wrong with that. Which means he gets paid somewhere in between in order to keep playing with such a star and an franchise where he get finally has comfort in. Or he needs to go start again.
 
I've said it before but I'd be very interested in Tuch. Even at 50 points per season, which he hit last year at the ripe old age of 22 while being on a nice long-term deal @ $4.75m, to me, is intriguing. He'd be a real nice addition to the top-6 as a winger. In saying that' as @Edge mentioned, I'd need more than a small add. It would make some sense from Vegas' perspective as they need help on defense, specifically from an offensive standpoint and removing Tuch's cap hit would allow for them to sign ADA long-term.
 
William Moneylander said:
I like Tuch when I see him but you have to be a huge believer to make a move for a guy who's on a 7 year contract, right?
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I "like" Tuch, but I can't say that I love Tuch.

He's a player who has been good, and at time very good at various stops on his journey --- college, the AHL, the NHL. But I haven't seen a player who is necessarily great, or bordering on greatness.

We're going on the better part of 10 months now where his production has declined steadily, and I have a little bit of concern that the player fans think they're getting, is not necessarily the player they're going to actually get (boy does that sound familiar from a year ago).

I see a bit of Chris Kreider in him, and beyond the divisiveness that is likely to generate, I think you could be looking at the same inherent challenge: a player who has enough tools to give you images of a 30+ goal/60+ point forward. But in that same vein, I also see some key tools missing, that probably keep him at a level below that.

Does that have value? You bet. Is that useful? Absolutely.

Is that worth ADA? Eh...not sold on that one.

If Tuch is a kid who has found himself good to very good during his career, ADA is a player who has found himself very good to great in his career --- and he's not terribly far off from the border of doing great things again.

The last time we saw this level of production from a NY Rangers defenseman, one of our 2019 second round picks was in utero.
 
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SingnBluesOnBroadway said:
I remember when there was the fun speculation about who would play with Jagr: Drury or Gomez? It turns out the answer was neither because neither, for some reason, meshed with him. So, while it certainly helps to play with a talented player, it's not always an easy, anyone-could-play-with-him situation.

Now it comes down to will Strome pull a Nylander and price himself out for a lesser opportunity?
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Just as an aside, Panarin, when he first went to Columbus, took some time to mesh with anyone. What Strome has done is not exactly something people should undervalue, specifically if he would re-sign at a reasonable cap hit and term.

If Strome signs for 4 years and scores 60 points per season while at a cap hit of $5m per season, that's VERY GOOD value.
 
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Johan Rylander asks the question that comes to everyone’s mind, “We have seen a few coaches leave their NHL clubs during the season, Mike Babcock left Toronto Maple Leafs as an example, after it was revealed he was bullying players. Has it been a similar situation for you, have you been bullied Lias?”
-”I don’t know what to say, or how to answer. It has been tough, that’s it. I will say more when the time is the right.”
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Sounds like Quinn or Knoblauch had something to do with Andersson leaving.
 
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NYRangers0723 said:
That’s the thing. Yes the Strome trade has been great BUT playing with Panarin has clearly given him much more space and help.
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Of course it has. But that does not mean that another player would find the chemistry just as easy. As Edge pointed out, if he is Jagr's Nylander, so what? The Rangers get to have a legit top line despite playing their legit top line center on a separate line. And while Strome does not get paid as much as a top line center, he gets paid as a higher end second line and gets to keep playing with Panarin and in NY.
 
Edge said:
So essentially, Strome is to Panarin what Nylander was to Jagr --- a player of some talent, whose talents are exploited and magnified because he has chemistry with a star.
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It depends. Say you get a 1st in the package for Tony, and you get a 1 in a package for CK.

You now have 3 1'st in next years draft. Ours, perhaps in the top 10, and 2 in the high 20's/low 30's. Does that give the rangers ammo to have the ability to trade down into the top 5 for someone they want?

We know they made the Stepan trade with eyes on Glass and missed him by a pick. We know they wanted to make the McD deal with Edmonton in 2016 to take Tkachuk at 4OA.

Do they have their sights set on a guy like that in this draft? And do they think stockpiling 2 late 1'st would give them enough ammo to trade down to take a run at said player?
 
eco's bones said:
The Rangers have about $15 mil to work with pre--cap rise going up--so maybe around $17 mil. They have 4 RFA's--Strome, Lemieux, DeAngelo and Georgiev. I don't see a major problem getting all them signed with $17 mil. We'd probably have $2-3 left over after re-signing all of them. Additionally we could also buy out Staal's last year which would give us about $2 mil more to work with.

I'd be interested in re-signing Strome. He has great chemistry with Panarin. I'm not into trading him at all. As long as he's with Panarin--Zibanejad can center another line and we're going to have two very dangerous lines.
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Plus he has some push back...we need some of that . No way Lemieux can handle all of that alone .
 
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We’ve had Kravstov, Andersson and Gropp all leave within the same season. Something’s going on.
 
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