Kocur Dill
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Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XX
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Rebuilding.
Agreed, but he’s must less sexy than your typical soccer mom.
Dolan’s walking around the rink wondering where that good ol’ lad Taylor Pyatt and his pretty blue eyes is hiding.
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He was dismayed to not be able to locate his prized UFA signings Aaron Voros and Patrick Rissmiller anywhere in the arena.
Machinehead
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Something that's been on my mind: people think that I hate physicality, and grit, and hard work because of what I say about players of that ilk. Actually, I love that shit.
But there's several caveats:
-You can't go out of your way to take dumb penalties (Cody!)
-Hitting for the sake of hitting is pointless. The puck has to be in the same zip code.
-It's not something I believe you need to spend high picks or a lot of cap on, unless the player is otherwise a star. You pay according to the player's talent.
-Speaking of talent, grit is not a talent in and of itself. If you're not a decent hockey player, it's absolutely meaningless. That goes double for defensemen.
-You can't be slow as shit. Effective physicality is married to speed in today's game. That's why Lucic is dying despite at one point being an extremely effective "gritty" player.
-When building a team, you focus on talent first, and plug in intangibles when you have a foundation.
Some examples: Wayne Simmonds is a decent player. Not a star, but enough where his grit is a bonus. Kevin Klein was a huge favorite of mine. He would knock your teeth your throat but the guy could defend. Micheal Ferland is a good hockey player. Tom Wilson is an excellent hockey player. I like Vlad Namestnikov. He plays really stiff. He seems to be involved in every conflict that breaks out in a Rangers game. He's not great, but I have no complaints, and I have no trouble putting him in the lineup for a little jam. I think he'd look a lot better as a compliment on a halfway decent team as opposed to being one of our more talented NHL'ers (kinda sad), but I digress.
As we move forward with the early stages of the rebuild, we should be focused on talent, talent, talent, and then talent. But if we get this thing going and can move to phase 3 or 4, I'm hoping for the Rangers to identify and bring in (either through the draft or otherwise) some physical, stiff players who good hockey players. They exist.
But that's down the road. Right now, build your foundation on skill and ability with the puck.
But there's several caveats:
-You can't go out of your way to take dumb penalties (Cody!)
-Hitting for the sake of hitting is pointless. The puck has to be in the same zip code.
-It's not something I believe you need to spend high picks or a lot of cap on, unless the player is otherwise a star. You pay according to the player's talent.
-Speaking of talent, grit is not a talent in and of itself. If you're not a decent hockey player, it's absolutely meaningless. That goes double for defensemen.
-You can't be slow as shit. Effective physicality is married to speed in today's game. That's why Lucic is dying despite at one point being an extremely effective "gritty" player.
-When building a team, you focus on talent first, and plug in intangibles when you have a foundation.
Some examples: Wayne Simmonds is a decent player. Not a star, but enough where his grit is a bonus. Kevin Klein was a huge favorite of mine. He would knock your teeth your throat but the guy could defend. Micheal Ferland is a good hockey player. Tom Wilson is an excellent hockey player. I like Vlad Namestnikov. He plays really stiff. He seems to be involved in every conflict that breaks out in a Rangers game. He's not great, but I have no complaints, and I have no trouble putting him in the lineup for a little jam. I think he'd look a lot better as a compliment on a halfway decent team as opposed to being one of our more talented NHL'ers (kinda sad), but I digress.
As we move forward with the early stages of the rebuild, we should be focused on talent, talent, talent, and then talent. But if we get this thing going and can move to phase 3 or 4, I'm hoping for the Rangers to identify and bring in (either through the draft or otherwise) some physical, stiff players who good hockey players. They exist.
But that's down the road. Right now, build your foundation on skill and ability with the puck.
Machinehead
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Was disappointed that the post wasn’t more informative to be honest.
Machinehead
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+20 goal guy, drives goal differential, mobile, can PK.
He's the archetype power forward.
Phoenix. He coached Henrik in youth hockey this spring. No kidding.
I watched Howden closely last night and I thought he played well defensively. Very positionally conscious. You are right about having no confidence on the offensive end.
Sorry to mention Eklund but he states Hayes and Vegas. Remember there over payment for Tatar. Looking thru there depth Brannstrom pops up. 1st is probably 25 or lower. What makes sense? Also it could help others out west increase there offers.
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Glass all day if Gorts gets that give him a raise.We may need to add.
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Yeah of course, but they also have 3 wins in the POs the last 3 years.
I don’t know what I am getting at, other than that I really think that CBJ should be able to start to make some noise in the POs.
Great post!
Hank should have cleaned that aspect of his game. Shanahan actually worked a lot with him on these type of things, but maybe not with this one (yanking yourself etc).
I think it’s a culture thing. Goalies in Europe is, historically, seen as mad guys putting themselves in the most exposed spot, which also gives them the right to ‘bark’ if they want to. Ie it’s more harmless. But it has become a thing and should be cleaned out.
I am skeptical. What they got going is cap space. Their farm is bare and the MaxPac trade and Tatar trade from my POV used all the assets and then some that they even should consider to spare. Would love Brännström or Glass of course, but what are the odds? Seems more unlikely than the Ottawa pick from my POV...
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