Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XX

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:laugh: that’s pretty funny. Subconscious choices.

What you just posted is definitely the real flaw in the concept of BPA. Because you could just as easily have said Cam Fowler or Vladimir Tarasenko and been accurate. It’s really rare that BPA is easily definable.

I am just going off the rankings from the magazines I have acquired over the years. Gormley was ranked 5th overall in 2010 in that ranking, Fowler 6th
 
:laugh: that’s pretty funny. Subconscious choices.

What you just posted is definitely the real flaw in the concept of BPA. Because you could just as easily have said Cam Fowler or Vladimir Tarasenko and been accurate. It’s really rare that BPA is easily definable.
Well that's the thing with BPA. Who's? Even consensus is hard to peg. Is it an aggravate list? A prospect service?

Based on Gorton's targets, recent draft picks and recent prospect acquisitions, I trust his BPA list. Just don't deviate for a position of need. The league changes fast, you can't project need 3 or 4 years out.
 
Well that's the thing with BPA. Who's? Even consensus is hard to peg. Is it an aggravate list? A prospect service?

Based on Gorton's targets, recent draft picks and recent prospect acquisitions, I trust his BPA list. Just don't deviate for a position of need. The league changes fast, you can't project need 3 or 4 years out.

I think that, in most cases, the guy who is still available at the top of the team’s list when they’re up isn’t all that different from the guy who’s second. So if your organization (not the NHL team, the whole organization) is weak at D and the guy at number 1 is a F and number 2 is a D, you should really draft number 2. Otherwise you end up like the Oilers in 2012, taking Yakupov when they should have traded down and taken a D.
 
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I think that, in most cases, the guy who is still available at the top of the team’s list when they’re up isn’t all that different from the guy who’s second. So if your organization (not the NHL team, the whole organization) is weak at D and the guy at number 1 is a F and number 2 is a D, you should really draft number 2. Otherwise you end up like the Oilers in 2012, taking Yakupov when they should have traded down and taken a D.
I mean I have said exactly that about the Yakupov pick. I think that's a separate question though. That's a matter of identifying the best talent and knowing you can snag him at some point lower. Edmonton of the Yakupov draft was also in a totally different boat than us at the last draft. They had a couple of legit blue chippers at forward and nothing on D. We have some nice pieces up front, maybe one or two on the back end. But we have zero, slam dunk elite prospects anywhere. We need to take our BPA because we simply need elite talent everywhere.

I'm kind of sticking to the BPA regardless of need stance because we are drafting for 3 or 4 years in the future. We could conceivably stack up on left wing or right d this summer because of need but maybe we sign Fox UFA in 18 months and get a legit top 2 RD in a Zucc or Hayes trade. We have a couple of players signed past 2 seasons. We have a blank slate in 4 years when a 2019 draftee will be contributing. How do you even answer what the Rangers' needs are right now?
 
Going by consensus rankings, and going BPA instead of who we actually drafted, this is what we'd end up with:

2007 NYR: Alexei Cherepanov
2007 BPA: Angelo Esposito

2008 NYR: Michael Del Zotto
2008 BPA: Mattias Tedenby

2009 NYR: Chris Kreider
2009 BPA: Jordan Schroeder

2011 NYR: JT Miller
2011 BPA: Joel Armia

2012 NYR: Brady Skjei
2012 BPA: Matt Finn
Yowza
 
I mean I have said exactly that about the Yakupov pick. I think that's a separate question though. That's a matter of identifying the best talent and knowing you can snag him at some point lower. Edmonton of the Yakupov draft was also in a totally different boat than us at the last draft. They had a couple of legit blue chippers at forward and nothing on D. We have some nice pieces up front, maybe one or two on the back end. But we have zero, slam dunk elite prospects anywhere. We need to take our BPA because we simply need elite talent everywhere.

I'm kind of sticking to the BPA regardless of need stance because we are drafting for 3 or 4 years in the future. We could conceivably stack up on left wing or right d this summer because of need but maybe we sign Fox UFA in 18 months and get a legit top 2 RD in a Zucc or Hayes trade. We have a couple of players signed past 2 seasons. We have a blank slate in 4 years when a 2019 draftee will be contributing. How do you even answer what the Rangers' needs are right now?

I think the Rangers are doing a good job building up evenly in all areas. When you’re rebuilding, you should go D-heavy first, because they take longer to develop. They made it a point to acquire D in the Stepan, Holden (yeah, just O’Gara), Grabner, Nash, and McDonagh trades. Plus signing Pionk. Meanwhile, they’re picking forwards higher in the draft and last year, after Kravtsov, 5 of their next 6 choices were D.

Out of DeAngelo, Pionk, Rykov, Lindgren, Hajek, Crawley, Sjalin, Miller, Lundkvist, Ragnarsson, Keane, and Gross... I feel like chances are pretty good we will develop a good D corps.

This year, they should take some D, but the focus should be on forwards.
 
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I’m a little surprised no one has given him a shot to play in the NHL again unless there is a more serious concern lingering others know about
 
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