GoAwayGiannone
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Only way they're trading Trouba right now is if it's for McDavid. Which they're not. So ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XVIII
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LeetchisGod
This is a bad hockey team.
Trouba has brain farts at times, but his size, physicality and shot can't be replaced on this roster. It's also very possible that he hasn't reached his ceiling yet. Look at how much Carlson has improved compared to what he was at 25.
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leetch99
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Trouba also with a rebuilding club that has some defensive woes and plenty of new faces and green behind the ear guys....it will take some time for things to mesh . I think that is why he has been inconsistent in some games....same goes for Skjei....time is on our side ....let's not panic just yet on these guys . I think we all see the good flashes they have shown us .
Uncle Sid
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I am in agreement with you here. While I tend to be slightly pessimistic when it comes to this team, I see the Trouba trade/signing as one that should be instrumental when all is said and done. Obviously the rebuild needs to progress and things have to go right, but if everything comes together the way we’re all hoping, I think Trouba will be a very important piece back there. I’m sure it’s been said dozens of times on this forum. I just don’t see why trading him would be considered.
Amazing Kreiderman
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A Rangers blogger today suggested we trade him because he is "below average"
there are people looking to move trouba cause fox and deangelo have been so good offensively...but what about the whole defenseman playing defense part? if trouba is gone who matches against the other teams top line? who kills penalties? Fox has played 1:20 on the PK and Deangelo has played 1:56 on the PK, thats total for the season. combined 0:07 per game. Trouba has averaged 2:51 per game on the pk
if you want to argue that those 2 deserve PP time over trouba that's one thing but they are so far away from making him expendable or redundant. completely different type of dmen...one day those 2 might be able to handle the defensive side, and I have complete confidence that one day Fox will. but we are no where near that point...
much in the same fashion that we would be foolish to move georgiev before igor has played in the NHL...you don't move a known young asset for the dreams of what might be
if you want to argue that those 2 deserve PP time over trouba that's one thing but they are so far away from making him expendable or redundant. completely different type of dmen...one day those 2 might be able to handle the defensive side, and I have complete confidence that one day Fox will. but we are no where near that point...
much in the same fashion that we would be foolish to move georgiev before igor has played in the NHL...you don't move a known young asset for the dreams of what might be
I don’t think Chytil has gotten enough love, and this is with this board more or less unanimously giving him praise.
who thought that he is the 2017 1st rounder who would become a 2 way beast?
We have 3 D in the top 40 in scoring, they are our 3 RD.
How about we keep them?
How about we keep them?
ohbaby
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It's nonsense. Trouba is not going anywhere. For better or worse, get used to him being here for the long haul. At 8 mil a year, no other club would be interested.
ohbaby
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He was over paid and forced a long term deal just like every other top free agent. That is not attractive.
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How much do you wanna sign DeAngelo for? How much will he want? Are these numbers even close?
There would be a long line
There was (is?) a reported named Sherry Ross who annually published a book with scouting reports on all players in the NHL. Basically a page per player. It wasn’t bad. Very mainstream.
But the description of Nik Lidstrom sticks out. He is said to be a great No 3 but someone who isn’t special enough to be able to become a top pairing D. And it certainly is a totally fair assumption. He played behind Coffey in Detroit. He was just this really good second pairing D at the age of 25. Like 10 years later he has 7 Norris Trophies.
Scott Neidermayer was also far from being seen as elite when he was 25. He got what 2 of the Norris Ts Lidstrom didn’t get.
From my POV it comes down to this, and a big part of this team’s ability to contend comes down to this, and that is that we must get a top line that can go head to head with the other top lines in the East. And, I don’t think Zibanejad is a good fit at center on a line like that. I love Ziba, so impressed by him in many ways and he seems like a great guy. But the top lines, especially Boston’s line, Tampa’s when they are playing well, Sid and so forth they do a darn darn good job out there.
I think Panarin is a great start to match them, but he needs a center more towards Bergeron, someone really smart that can weigh things up, and that doesn’t travel as much N-S like Ziba does without the ability to make up for it with super good agility.
If we can get that, I think Trouba could excel on defense behind a top line like that.
pld459666
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A 25 years old defender with top pairing capabilities signed for what will be a great contract in three years?
A very long line indeed.
Pionk has downright awesome metrics for Winnipeg. What would we have to add in a Trouba for Pionk swap?
Lone Ranger
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The idea of trading Trouba is inane. No other right defenseman, either on our roster or in our prospect pool, comes close to replicating his size, skill set, and physicality. He'd be almost impossible to replace.
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I don't think Trouba will ever be close to those D-men you mentioned. At best he is a 50 point scorer. Plus he is a bit of a defensive liability. He's not very good getting in front of shots, using his stick to deflect them. I have seen many times this season, forwards shooting right through him, using him as a screen and scoring. He is very good on the boards winning battles, clearing pucks, and other such things, but is not an overall great D-man like those you mentioned.
One of the reasons we are scoring goals this year is due to our blueline getting involved. It has always taken a unit of 5 to play well together. So whether the top lines improve the blueline or visa versa, they both complement each other offensively, and defensively too. And being we have both in spades, (2 top lines and a foward blueline) we are lighting up the board more often than not.
We have two top lines that most teams don't. Strome and Panarin carried us when Zibad was out for a month. And they show no signs of slowing down. Zibad is probably now,.. getting his wind and legs back after being out a month. And he has always played well with Kreids and Buch. But if you were to ask me to choose, Strome's line would be number one. Don't under rate either lines impacts, just because they don't have marquee names.
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Barnaby
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Sometimes the Rangers start going East to west too much, but at the same time they’re tied at 8th in terms of goals per game so I’m not really looking to drastically change the philosophy. I would certainly love to add 2-3 tough North American guys who go north and south. Before anyone jumps at me, they don’t have to be North American, but they usually play that style much more often.
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